Re: Newbie here with questions on starting diet with food allergies

[Guest guest]

Merika,

You asked:

<<So, my first question is, if we avoid eggs, what do we eat in the

beginning diet? I can substitute for it in baked goods, but what

about breakfast?>>

There are some great egg-free recipes on www.pecanbread.com under " Recipes " .

<<And what about the fruits and veggies I'm allergic to? Do I eat them

anyway?>>

We are to avoid any food that causes an anaphylactic reaction. Other than that,

it's up to you. If you get minor reactions to some foods, you may want to avoid

them until some gut healing has taken place... then " test " them later to see how

you feel.

<<Also, I react very poorly to yoghurt and acidophilus. How do I start

that? It's not the dairy. I even tried acidophilus tablets for 3

days, and have never felt so awful and literally close to death as I

did then....(shiver).>>

I suspect that may have been due to bacterial " die-off " which can be triggered

by probiotics. This *should* be temporary. It is really important to

re-establish beneficial bacteria in the gut.... to take up the space once

occupied by the " bad guys " who've been digging in and damaging your gut for so

long. But only you can decide if and when to begin yogurt or acidophilus supps.

The yogurt does have tremendous healing qualities that go beyond just supplying

probiotics. Many families here begin with homemade SCD goat milk yogurt.

<<And finally, since I've gotten pregnant, every time I eat chicken I

get cramps and diahrea and nausea.>>

Was it organic chicken? Some regular chicken may have additives... or have been

fed something that disagreed with your system. You might search out some of the

spendier organic, free-range stuff and give it a try. Of course there are

alternatives. You could use turkey... or, how about ostrich? Always look

for poultry or meat that is free of added basting solutions, flavor enhancers

and other illegals.

I would caution anyone beginning SCD while pregnant... that you may experience

die-off symtoms... which is quite literally caused by the toxins given off by

bad gut pathogens as they expire. Your system has to deal with those... so you

are DE-TOXING some pretty powerful stuff. Do remember that your BABY then has to

be exposed to those toxins, too. Baths with epsom salts can help with easing

those die-off symptoms.

In your case, you *may* want to consider easing in to SCD.... slowly taking out

any illegal sugars and grain-based starches. Beginning by eliminating raw foods

and grains might be a good idea.... then just easing ever closer to a full-tilt

SCD plan. Make sure you're taking a good prenatal vitamin (with no illegal

starches or sugars added).

Best of luck to you and yours...

Patti

[Guest guest]

Merika,

Kirkman Labs does make an scd legal prenatal vitamin, so you might want to

consider using theirs. As for easing into the diet, I guess that is what we

technically did. We took our son to a homeopathic doctor about two weeks

before starting scd, and she recommended doing a yeast cleanse diet. I

think that's pretty much a gf/cf diet because he was not to have dairy, but

he could have some grains like rice. So, we took away all of the fluid

milk, flour, and all of that stuff. Probably a week later is when I

stumbled onto scd on the net, and after a week of hard researching we began.

So, it was about two or three weeks after removing some of what he was used

to eating. I think Patty has a good point in that being the way to go for

you considering the healthy of the baby. I hope it goes well for you. I

know that it will be hard. I'll pray for you.

Meleah

Re: Newbie here with questions on starting diet with

food allergies

> Merika,

>

> You asked:

>

> <<So, my first question is, if we avoid eggs, what do we eat in the

> beginning diet? I can substitute for it in baked goods, but what

> about breakfast?>>

>

> There are some great egg-free recipes on www.pecanbread.com under

> " Recipes " .

>

> <<And what about the fruits and veggies I'm allergic to? Do I eat them

> anyway?>>

>

> We are to avoid any food that causes an anaphylactic reaction. Other than

> that, it's up to you. If you get minor reactions to some foods, you may

> want to avoid them until some gut healing has taken place... then " test "

> them later to see how you feel.

>

>

> <<Also, I react very poorly to yoghurt and acidophilus. How do I start

> that? It's not the dairy. I even tried acidophilus tablets for 3

> days, and have never felt so awful and literally close to death as I

> did then....(shiver).>>

> I suspect that may have been due to bacterial " die-off " which can be

> triggered by probiotics. This *should* be temporary. It is really

> important to re-establish beneficial bacteria in the gut.... to take up

> the space once occupied by the " bad guys " who've been digging in and

> damaging your gut for so long. But only you can decide if and when to

> begin yogurt or acidophilus supps. The yogurt does have tremendous healing

> qualities that go beyond just supplying probiotics. Many families here

> begin with homemade SCD goat milk yogurt.

>

> <<And finally, since I've gotten pregnant, every time I eat chicken I

> get cramps and diahrea and nausea.>>

>

> Was it organic chicken? Some regular chicken may have additives... or have

> been fed something that disagreed with your system. You might search out

> some of the spendier organic, free-range stuff and give it a try. Of

> course there are alternatives. You could use turkey... or, how about

> ostrich? Always look for poultry or meat that is free of added

> basting solutions, flavor enhancers and other illegals.

>

> I would caution anyone beginning SCD while pregnant... that you may

> experience die-off symtoms... which is quite literally caused by the

> toxins given off by bad gut pathogens as they expire. Your system has to

> deal with those... so you are DE-TOXING some pretty powerful stuff. Do

> remember that your BABY then has to be exposed to those toxins, too. Baths

> with epsom salts can help with easing those die-off symptoms.

>

> In your case, you *may* want to consider easing in to SCD.... slowly

> taking out any illegal sugars and grain-based starches. Beginning by

> eliminating raw foods and grains might be a good idea.... then just easing

> ever closer to a full-tilt SCD plan. Make sure you're taking a good

> prenatal vitamin (with no illegal starches or sugars added).

>

> Best of luck to you and yours...

>

> Patti

>

>

[Guest guest]

Merika,

One more thing. You asked what to do about breakfast. My son is not doing

eggs. He tested a 2 on the RAST test, so we're avoiding them in hopes that

he will outgrow the allergy. So in the beginning of the diet, I fed him a

cooked fruit of some kind(applesauce, baked apples w/cinamon, baked pears,

ect.), diluted grape juice, and a turkey burger or hamburger. Something

like that. Sometimes he would have cooked carrots, green beans, or just

anything. Just don't think typical breakfast food in the beginning. As you

introduce more foods, you can go back to regular breakfast foods if you

want.

Meleah

Newbie here with questions on starting diet with food

allergies

> Hi,

>

> I'm thinking of starting the scd diet and have a few questions about

> how to get it going. I've read the book, browsed online, and read

> some archives here. The diet will be for myself (celiac and food

> allergies) and my ds, age 4 (food allergies and possible celiac),

> and possibly my dh (IBS) if I can get him to.

>

> My understanding is that by following the scd diet, food allergies

> will go away over time because the diet will heal the gut. I'm

> referring to delayed food allergies (Igg), not anaphylactic

> reactions. However, I also read that people with allergies to eggs,

> for example, avoid them on the diet until well into it and symptoms

> have subsided. So which do I do?

>

> To be more specific, here's my story: long-time undiagnosed celiac,

> now GF for 2 1/2 years. Lots of gut damage done by celiac. Definite

> improvement in health by going gf, but still not really healthy. 6

> months ago, I did an ELISA blood allergy test, and tested positive

> to almost every fruit and vegetable, plus beans, eggs, some spices,

> etc. Basically I tested allergic to everything that was in my normal

> diet, which was ovo-lacto vegetarian. Which indicates a very leaky

> gut.

>

> A few months ago, I went on a very limited 5 day rotation diet, with

> only foods I was not allergic to, including some exotic tubers from

> www.specialfoods.com . The diet was helpful and I was feeling more

> energetic and healthy than in a long time. And then....I got

> pregnant. My new diet went out the window, except for gf and a few

> foods I really knew bothered me. For various reasons, I don't think

> the rotation diet will work for me pregnant (I'm 3 mos), and a

> fellow celiac suggested the scd diet.

>

> My son, age 4, is super allergic to soy in any form, including

> lecithin, vitamin E, etc. He also tested allergic to eggs, and when

> we got those out of his diet, the cradle cap and skin bumps finally

> went away. He tested ok to everything else, but is a very picky

> eater. After we got the soy out of him at age 2 1/2 yrs, he seemed

> pretty normal.

>

> But last year he got a strange bug or something and had diahrea for

> about 3 weeks. Docs found nothing. It finally abated, but now he

> poops pretty much every time he uses the bathroom, instead of the

> once a day he did previously. And they seem not really formed, nor

> really loose, and the color of infant poop (that orangy color). Ds

> is also thin, complains of tummy aches periodically, and seems lower

> in energy than the other kids. But any pediatrician would look at

> him and say he's normal. I just have a funny mommy-gut feeling that

> something is off.

>

> My son eats gf too. We were unable to test him for celiac when I

> found out about mine, as he was breastfeeding then, and could have

> tested positive from ME. And we knew something was up, so we made

> him gf (we found out about the soy later).

>

> I won't go into dh's trouble, as he really doesn't want any help,

> lol. But this looks like a major diet, and I'm thinking if I do it

> for myself, I might as well do it for ds too, cuz I think it might

> help him, and if we're going to all the trouble, then maybe dh will

> hop onboard.

>

> So, my first question is, if we avoid eggs, what do we eat in the

> beginning diet? I can substitute for it in baked goods, but what

> about breakfast?

>

> And what about the fruits and veggies I'm allergic to? Do I eat them

> anyway?

>

> Also, I react very poorly to yoghurt and acidophilus. How do I start

> that? It's not the dairy. I even tried acidophilus tablets for 3

> days, and have never felt so awful and literally close to death as I

> did then....(shiver).

>

> And finally, since I've gotten pregnant, every time I eat chicken I

> get cramps and diahrea and nausea. I was eating it ok before preg.

> I'm willing to try it again, just not terribly optimistic. Is there

> an alternative?

>

> Thank you for reading this far! I look forward to hearing from you

>

> Merika

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

Thanks for your thoughts.

> <<Also, I react very poorly to yoghurt and acidophilus. How do I

start

> that? It's not the dairy. I even tried acidophilus tablets for 3

> days, and have never felt so awful and literally close to death as

I

> did then....(shiver).>>

> I suspect that may have been due to bacterial " die-off " which can

be triggered by probiotics.

Wow, ok, that is really scary, though I guess it gives me hope. I

will have to ease into this I think, as I don't want that sort of

die-off again, especially while preg.

> <<And finally, since I've gotten pregnant, every time I eat

chicken I

> get cramps and diahrea and nausea.>>

>

> Was it organic chicken? Some regular chicken may have additives...

or have been fed something that disagreed with your system. You

Yes, it was organic. One from Trader Joe's, one from Whole Foods.

Maybe I can focus on beef more at the beginning?

Merika

[Guest guest]

Hi Meleah,

Thanks for the ideas. My son would hate all of it, lol. This morning

I did feed him 2 scd muffins. I think he may just have to starve a

bit at first. Eventually he will eat, right?

Merika

(and no, we haven't officially begun the diet. I'm still waiting for

morning sickness to go away before embarking on the major cooking

that is scd...)

>

> Merika,

> One more thing. You asked what to do about breakfast. My son is

not doing

> eggs. He tested a 2 on the RAST test, so we're avoiding them in

hopes that

> he will outgrow the allergy. So in the beginning of the diet, I

fed him a

> cooked fruit of some kind(applesauce, baked apples w/cinamon,

baked pears,

> ect.), diluted grape juice, and a turkey burger or hamburger.

Something

> like that. Sometimes he would have cooked carrots, green beans,

or just

> anything. Just don't think typical breakfast food in the

beginning. As you

> introduce more foods, you can go back to regular breakfast foods

if you

> want.

> Meleah

>

[Guest guest]

Your right. He will eat eventually.

Re: Newbie here with questions on starting diet with

food allergies

> Hi Meleah,

>

> Thanks for the ideas. My son would hate all of it, lol. This morning

> I did feed him 2 scd muffins. I think he may just have to starve a

> bit at first. Eventually he will eat, right?

>

> Merika

> (and no, we haven't officially begun the diet. I'm still waiting for

> morning sickness to go away before embarking on the major cooking

> that is scd...)

>

>

>>

>> Merika,

>> One more thing. You asked what to do about breakfast. My son is

> not doing

>> eggs. He tested a 2 on the RAST test, so we're avoiding them in

> hopes that

>> he will outgrow the allergy. So in the beginning of the diet, I

> fed him a

>> cooked fruit of some kind(applesauce, baked apples w/cinamon,

> baked pears,

>> ect.), diluted grape juice, and a turkey burger or hamburger.

> Something

>> like that. Sometimes he would have cooked carrots, green beans,

> or just

>> anything. Just don't think typical breakfast food in the

> beginning. As you

>> introduce more foods, you can go back to regular breakfast foods

> if you

>> want.

>> Meleah

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>