Re: Question about tolerance

[Guest guest]

Please avoid fruit peels,especially apple peels. Apple peels contain

pectin and pectin is not SCD legal.

I am glad that you are seeing better digestion. How about behavior? If

you see progress in both digestion and brain function then you are on

the right track. If you only get improvement in digestion,then you

might want to move more slowly.

Dr Haas wrote that changes in the gut are easier to acheive.

If a child is eating a small amount of wrong foods,then he might get

good stools but not improvement in behavior and cognition.

Mimi

> I don't know if the

> fruit peels may delay healing or not. Guess I'm confused about this

> issue.

>

> But my son is doing fantastic. He has taken to this diet well, loves

> all the foods, misses some of his old foods, but no true tantrums

> over it. We come up w/ such great subs he loves it all. But again, I

> don't know if we're moving too fast or not. We started about a month

> ago.

[Guest guest]

>

> Please avoid fruit peels,especially apple peels. Apple peels contain

> pectin and pectin is not SCD legal.

>

> I am glad that you are seeing better digestion. How about behavior?

Well, behavior is great. We have also started MB12 injections, so it's

hard to say, but the combo is working = we are seeing so much " good

stuff. " More time needed, though w/ ABA folks to see if intellectual

stuff is really changing.

We will watch the apple peels. I will have to put my foot down about

it as he likes to eat them raw.

[Guest guest]

Mimi,

What kind of time frame are you talking for introducing raw fruit with the

peeling? I haven't given iel apple peels, but I do leave it on the

raw peaches. If the apple peeling is illegal for scd, does that mean I

should never give him a raw apple with the peeling unless he is well enough

to go off scd? We're 3 mths. into the diet, so I'm wondering if I let him

have too much raw fruit. We've done no raw vegies yet. I do give him ripe

bananas, raw peaches, strawberries, blackberries, and blueberries. I think

that's all of the raw fruit I've introduced so far. Perhaps it is too soon?

Also if he can tolerate the cow yogurt, should I assume that the cow cheeses

are going to be OK as well? I ask because I thought that the nightmares

were contributed to the nut butters. iel woke up again last night

though. I gave him cheddar cheese for snack yesterday, and that was the

only change. We'd been out of cheese for a week or two, so yesterday was

the first time he'd had it in a little bit. What do you think?

Meleah

scd 3 mth.

iel 3yrs.,asd

Ethan 5yrs, Mark 1yr., Both healthy

Re: Question about tolerance

> Please avoid fruit peels,especially apple peels. Apple peels contain

> pectin and pectin is not SCD legal.

>

> I am glad that you are seeing better digestion. How about behavior? If

> you see progress in both digestion and brain function then you are on

> the right track. If you only get improvement in digestion,then you

> might want to move more slowly.

>

> Dr Haas wrote that changes in the gut are easier to acheive.

> If a child is eating a small amount of wrong foods,then he might get

> good stools but not improvement in behavior and cognition.

>

> Mimi

>

>> I don't know if the

>> fruit peels may delay healing or not. Guess I'm confused about this

>> issue.

>>

>> But my son is doing fantastic. He has taken to this diet well, loves

>> all the foods, misses some of his old foods, but no true tantrums

>> over it. We come up w/ such great subs he loves it all. But again, I

>> don't know if we're moving too fast or not. We started about a month

>> ago.

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Sometimes you may not see out-and-out " reactions " that make it clear a kid is

not tolerating a food.... and yet, it may still be " too soon " for raw foods and

whole nuts in terms of true, long-term gut healing. That's the goal here.

If you think about it this way... that with SCD, we take a kid who has an

overgrowth of bad gut pathogens... put those pathogens on a " starvation diet "

essentially... then those bacterial colonies die off and leave behind new, raw,

tender tissue in the intestinal tract. This is where the perforations are when

your talking about a " leaky gut " .

If we challenge that still-healing gut tissue by sending raw veggies and fruits

and whole nuts down there... we are asking a LOT of that tender, new tissue. The

lining of the gut is going to be attempting to heal and normalize itself... and

this may take more time with one person than with another.

If we can have patience... and make everything as EASY TO DIGEST as possible, we

may see true gut healing happen faster in the long run. I guess that's the whole

point.

All SCD parents are anxious to get back to eating a wider variety of foods....

especially those that don't require a ton of preparation... but jumping the gun

may cause you to shoot yourself in the foot in the long term.

Just trying to illustrate that you may not see any immediate reaction... or any

sign of intolerance... but it still *could* be too soon, especially for a young

child. They aren't always terrific at chewing well, for one thing.

I personally think that especially when you're faced with a kid who seems to be

ravenous all the time (not sure that's the case with your son), this is a sign

that their body is desperate for nutrients, but still isn't able to absorb a lot

of them from their food. To me, that's a red flag that the gut is still a long

way from healed.

I wish there was a way to have more of an absolute timeline for everyone to

follow.... specific lengths of time before introducing whatever... but it's

just not the way SCD works. Personally, my two cents... one month in is

generally too soon for raw foods and whole nuts.

Hope that helps...

Patti

Question about tolerance

I read the SCD protocol post with great interest. There is a lot

said about adding in foods as your child tolerates them. I have to

say that there is nothing I can see that he does not tolerate. He

does not react in any way to anything unless it is not GFCF. Now,

I'm 100% for SCD and in no way want to go back to GFCF, but if my

son tolerates everything we introduce, are we ok to be going a bit

faster w/ the diet by adding nuts, raw fruits, etc.? I mean, we

don't get any bad reactions to anything, not even the yogurt. He's

eating it a lot and doing great w/ stools and everything. In fact,

he wants all the food I can put in front of him.

I feel we perhaps moved too fast into the raw fruits and veggies

category, but again, no " reactions " although I don't know if the

fruit peels may delay healing or not. Guess I'm confused about this

issue.

But my son is doing fantastic. He has taken to this diet well, loves

all the foods, misses some of his old foods, but no true tantrums

over it. We come up w/ such great subs he loves it all. But again, I

don't know if we're moving too fast or not. We started about a month

ago.