Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Hello friends - Luke has been GF/CF for a little over a year. His diapers went from very mushy / diarehea to halfway formed sort of clayish when we went to GF/CF. Quite often he'd have small little balls of formed turds inside a bigger clayish mass. I was investigating SCD, and initally tried replacing Luke's rice milk w/'almond milk'. We noticed that after a few days, Luke's diapers went back to mushy. Stopping the almond milk (and almond flour muffins), his diapers returned to 'normal' in a few days. Investigation of the contents of the almond milk revealed it had cane syrup, an illegal SCD ingredient, and one of the few flat our sweeteners my son has ever had. It occurred to me that what we might be seeing here is validation of his need to be on SCD. What does the group think about this theory? 1) While getting all kinds of wheat in his pre GF days, complex carbs got through into his intestine and he had diarehea / very splattery diapers. 2) When we went GF, we greatly reduced the amount of carbs getting down into his system. However, he was still getting some in the forms of grains like rice and corn, and lots of fresh fruit (but very little, refined sugar or otherwise sweetened products). He would form some normal stools, but eventually enough undigested carbs got down the pipes that everything got shot through, thus we saw formed poops inside a larger mass. 3) I fed him cane syrup, loaded with sucrose and enough got through that his system started back up with the diarehea. I'm considering a test of giving Luke some highly sugary items and monitoring his diapers there after. Has anyone performed a similar benchmark with success or failure? Anyone have any suggestions of what to give him? Also, I'm curious if there is a chance that the influx of almonds in the milk and almond flour muffins I made him caused the loose stools? Anyone have any advice for me on that? Luke, 3 yr old ASD, just starting SCD. Thanks you! brian __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 , I can't address every quiry that you made but I do think that the almonds products are counterproductive if the intro diet is not done first. The SCD is not really meant to be a nut diet either so my suggestion is that putting Luke on the intro diet first and monitoring his diapers for a month whilst on SCD. Intro diet is only for a maximum of 5 days whereafter, other easy to digest foods are introduced. There is a stages chart at www.pecanbread.com under food Preparation. This is a guide but a very helpful one. Almond products are given in the later stages of the diet. Even after 5 years on SCD I still don't digest almonds real well. I have a few things per day but not much. My diet consists more of cheeses, veggies, fruits etc. In the beginning stages all veggies and fruits should be peeled, seeded and cooked. HTH, Charlene UC 8 years SCD 5 1/2 years Hello friends - Luke has been GF/CF for a little over a year. His diapers went from very mushy / diarehea to halfway formed sort of clayish when we went to GF/CF. Quite often he'd have small little balls of formed turds inside a bigger clayish mass. I was investigating SCD, and initally tried replacing Luke's rice milk w/'almond milk'. We noticed that after a few days, Luke's diapers went back to mushy. Stopping the almond milk (and almond flour muffins), his diapers returned to 'normal' in a few days. Investigation of the contents of the almond milk revealed it had cane syrup, an illegal SCD ingredient, and one of the few flat our sweeteners my son has ever had. It occurred to me that what we might be seeing here is validation of his need to be on SCD. What does the group think about this theory? 1) While getting all kinds of wheat in his pre GF days, complex carbs got through into his intestine and he had diarehea / very splattery diapers. 2) When we went GF, we greatly reduced the amount of carbs getting down into his system. However, he was still getting some in the forms of grains like rice and corn, and lots of fresh fruit (but very little, refined sugar or otherwise sweetened products). He would form some normal stools, but eventually enough undigested carbs got down the pipes that everything got shot through, thus we saw formed poops inside a larger mass. 3) I fed him cane syrup, loaded with sucrose and enough got through that his system started back up with the diarehea. I'm considering a test of giving Luke some highly sugary items and monitoring his diapers there after. Has anyone performed a similar benchmark with success or failure? Anyone have any suggestions of what to give him? Also, I'm curious if there is a chance that the influx of almonds in the milk and almond flour muffins I made him caused the loose stools? Anyone have any advice for me on that? Luke, 3 yr old ASD, just starting SCD. Thanks you! brian __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 > >it had cane syrup, an illegal SCD ingredient, > and one of the few flat our sweeteners my son has ever > had. > > It occurred to me that what we might be seeing here is > validation of his need to be on SCD. What does the > group think about this theory? Welcome to you and Luke! Naturally the concensus here will favor atrial of SCD with the Intro Diet and without SCD illegal foods. > > 1) While getting all kinds of wheat in his pre GF > days, complex carbs got through into his intestine and > he had diarehea / very splattery diapers. > > 2) When we went GF, we greatly reduced the amount of > carbs getting down into his system. This can lead to ketosis. SCD only restrict a type of carbs not the amount. >However, he was > still getting some in the forms of grains like rice > and corn, and lots of fresh fruit (but very little, > refined sugar or otherwise sweetened products). He > would form some normal stools, but eventually enough > undigested carbs got down the pipes that everything > got shot through, thus we saw formed poops inside a > larger mass. Bad gut bacteria feed on such foods. > > 3) I fed him cane syrup, loaded with sucrose and > enough got through that his system started back up > with the diarehea. Perhaps you did not realize these things are very harmful to a damaged gut. > > I'm considering a test of giving Luke some highly > sugary items and monitoring his diapers there after. > Has anyone performed a similar benchmark with success > or failure? Anyone have any suggestions of what to > give him? Why not give him a try at removing items that induce toxicty instead of experimenting on the poor little guy? It sounds like he's suffered on these counter indicated foods. > > Also, I'm curious if there is a chance that the influx > of almonds in the milk and almond flour muffins I made > him caused the loose stools? Anyone have any advice > for me on that? Nuts should be introduced later and not used in large amounts. Carol F. Celiac, SCD 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 I find sugar stuff is way to prevalent in our kids foods! I consider sugars equil to cocaine in its negative effects to the body. So I would never give sugar to see how a child does. I believe your answer was correct in assuming that the problem was with the sugar. If you must do a test...try finding or making your own alond milk that has no sugary substances in it. Good to see a dad working so hard to support his child! Cheers! Pamela > > Hello friends - > > Luke has been GF/CF for a little over a year. His > diapers went from very mushy / diarehea to halfway > formed sort of clayish when we went to GF/CF. Quite > often he'd have small little balls of formed turds > inside a bigger clayish mass. > > I was investigating SCD, and initally tried replacing > Luke's rice milk w/'almond milk'. We noticed that > after a few days, Luke's diapers went back to mushy. > Stopping the almond milk (and almond flour muffins), > his diapers returned to 'normal' in a few days. > Investigation of the contents of the almond milk > revealed it had cane syrup, an illegal SCD ingredient, > and one of the few flat our sweeteners my son has ever > had. > > It occurred to me that what we might be seeing here is > validation of his need to be on SCD. What does the > group think about this theory? > > 1) While getting all kinds of wheat in his pre GF > days, complex carbs got through into his intestine and > he had diarehea / very splattery diapers. > > 2) When we went GF, we greatly reduced the amount of > carbs getting down into his system. However, he was > still getting some in the forms of grains like rice > and corn, and lots of fresh fruit (but very little, > refined sugar or otherwise sweetened products). He > would form some normal stools, but eventually enough > undigested carbs got down the pipes that everything > got shot through, thus we saw formed poops inside a > larger mass. > > 3) I fed him cane syrup, loaded with sucrose and > enough got through that his system started back up > with the diarehea. > > I'm considering a test of giving Luke some highly > sugary items and monitoring his diapers there after. > Has anyone performed a similar benchmark with success > or failure? Anyone have any suggestions of what to > give him? > > Also, I'm curious if there is a chance that the influx > of almonds in the milk and almond flour muffins I made > him caused the loose stools? Anyone have any advice > for me on that? > > Luke, 3 yr old ASD, just starting SCD. > > Thanks you! > brian > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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