coconut milk vs. coconut, was Re: Patti - My daughter's diet

[Guest guest]

Lorilyn,

Well... yes, you're right. That is what the book says.... " coconut milk and

almond milk can be tried after six months " .

I don't mean to go against Elaine's advice... but I'm kind of assuming she meant

in terms of drinking whole big glasses of it....like as a replacement for cow

milk as a beverage.

For the kid I was recommending it for, the mom is having a lot of trouble

getting her to eat anything and I was hoping to find some way of finding

something she could hide veggie purees in... and get some calories into her. I

should have clarified that I would envision her using only a very small

amount.... mostly frozen cooked fruit and some veggie puree....in these

smoothies.

But, technically, you are definitely right. Now... it defies logic that coconut

itself would be allowed before a little coconut milk... but since Elaine's not

here for me to e-mail and bug her about this for clarification, I'll defer to

Jody or Sheila and see what they think. I definitely don't want to recommend

against the advice of BTVC.

Patti

coconut milk vs. coconut, was Re: Patti - My daughter's

diet

Umm, I thought it was the other way around? That coconut is okay per BTVC but

coconut milk cannot be added until several months SCD and even then should be

homemade? (I have to admit that I thought that allowing coconut, but not

cooked-and-pureed-coconut-and-water made no sense, unless it was a quantity

issue-- that people would drink a lot more coconut than they would eat--, but

that's what my 10th anniversary edition says.)

Also, has anyone had success making their own coconut milk? I tried the

recipe using dessicated macaroon coconut last year and it was absolutely nothing

like canned coconut milk (with or without forbidden gum additives). Then I

tried it again last week with wide shred unsweetened dried coconut, just about

killed my blender and still got a very pathetic coconut milk. I am thinking

that the secret to commercial coconut milk must be that they totally puree the

coconut, and that I need a Vitamix to do that. Anyone have experience with

this?

Lorilyn, day 10 of round 2 SCD

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti & Lorilyn,

Here is a little note that Elaine had written about Coconut milk

from the Lyris files:

http://lyris.dundee.net/read/messages?id=265858#265858

" Those instructions about adding the coconut milk after 6 months

were written for the people with inflammatory bowel disease BEFORE I

became active on the autism list. Most people were getting it a can

and I KNOW that there are probably emulsifiers, etc.

If you are using it from a fresh cocount and making yogurt with it,

go ahead and don't worry about 6 months. "

This thread is also very interesting especially the part about *all*

canned coconut milks having emulsifiers (illegals) from a person who

works in the industry.

http://lyris.dundee.net/read/messages?id=266128#266128

Patti, I agree with you that it was drinking a lot of homemade

coconut milk to which Elaine was referring (ie. a substitute for

drinking liquid cow milk). It is good stuff but is concentrated and

so might be too much for a compromised gut - go slow and carefully.

The fiber of the coconut itself can also be tough to digest (likely

tougher than other nuts for most nuts people). But everyone varies

so people need to check it for themselves to see if they tolerate

it. From experience on the various lists many seem to tolerate

pecans and blanched almonds before shredded coconut items.

Lorilyn,

I've made my own coconut milk.

Here's my method:

Coconut milk

1 cup unsweetened coconut flakes

1 cup boiling water

Simmer coconut in water for five minutes. Allow it to cool about 10

or more (otherwise the blender will steam up and blow the lid).

Blend until fairly smooth. Strain using a clean dishcloth or layers

of cheesecloth laid in a colander. When most has gone through I

fill pick up the sides of the cloth and squeeze out more liquid.

Sometime I boil the remaining coconut a second time repeating all

steps to get a thinner milk. NOTE: The remaining coconut shreds

should be thrown out since they are concentrated cellulose and will

feed the bad gut bugs.

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and

> I don't mean to go against Elaine's advice... but I'm kind of

assuming she meant in terms of drinking whole big glasses of

it....like as a replacement for cow milk as a beverage.

> Umm, I thought it was the other way around? That coconut is okay

per BTVC but coconut milk cannot be added until several months SCD

and even then should be homemade? (I have to admit that I thought

that allowing coconut, but not cooked-and-pureed-coconut-and-water

made no sense, unless it was a quantity issue-- that people would

drink a lot more coconut than they would eat--, but that's what my

10th anniversary edition says.)

> Also, has anyone had success making their own coconut milk? I

tried the recipe using dessicated macaroon coconut last year and it

was absolutely nothing like canned coconut milk (with or without

forbidden gum additives). Then I tried it again last week with wide

shred unsweetened dried coconut, just about killed my blender and

still got a very pathetic coconut milk. I am thinking that the

secret to commercial coconut milk must be that they totally puree

the coconut, and that I need a Vitamix to do that. Anyone have

experience with this?

> Lorilyn, day 10 of round 2 SCD

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