Re: Has anyone assessed peptides after yogurt?

[Guest guest]

Janice,

We tested urinary peptides for our 2 yo ASD son. We did it before and

a month after starting the yogurt. They were normal before and higher

than normal after a month, so we stopped. But we did that only after

two months of SCD and we were not completely compliant for a while.

Now we are 8 months into SCD and we want to try it again.

Flor

>

> Hello,

>

> I've been getting up my nerve to make a trial batch of goat yogurt

> with my new Yogourmet device & starter. I've read the tips posted

> lately (thanks a bunch!) and have just one last question...

>

> Has anyone ever tested for urinary peptides after introducing the

> yogurt? Do many people have to stop using the yogurt because their

> gut still produced peptides to the casein? I've discussed this with

> people who've said it's " denatured " (correct term?) because of the 24

> hour fermentation, but I'm still a little nervous.

>

> Basically I'm wondering if anyone has run the peptide test post yogurt

> intro and what they found. Or conversely, has anybody just noticed the

> opioid effect and discontinued the yogurt without the testing to

> determine it?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Janice

> Mom to Billy 3 1/2 and Colby 2 1/2

> SCD ( a little bit of a nut diet; intro diet attempted but never

> touched by either guy; no adverse reactions noticed to any SCD legal

> foods introduced ) since March 2006

> Background: No IgG or IgE sensitivies.

> No obvious reaction to any foods thus far except for Gluten

> (Billy-crazy hyperactivity & stims) and Dairy (Colby-diarrhea or more

> often, constipation)

> Confirmed malabsorption with amino acid levels check

> Confirmed urinary peptide problems via testing about 1.5 yrs. ago

> Yeast status: Billy's got right now, Colby doesn't

>

[Guest guest]

Bacterial and/or fungal overgrowths and the leaky gut syndrome

This post was written by Tamaro a few years ago. it explains

why you should not worry about peptides if you do SCD.

Tamaro's son almost recovered from ASD after doing the SCD for a

year.

HTH,Mimi

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From: " cmtamaro <ctamaro@m...> " <ctamaro@m...>

Date: Wed Dec 18, 2002

2:29 pm Subject: Re: Casein

Elaine: To answer your second question first, yes I completely agree

that eliminating bacterial and/or fungal overgrowths is critical in

controlling leaky gut. And if the gut is less permeable, then the

peptides won't leak out, and the inflammation will die down, and

hopefully more zinc can be absorbed leading to better stomach acid

production, which will in turn stimulate the pancreas - it's all inter-

related. I personally believe, based on my observations and testing of

my son and other ASD children, that intestinal pathogens are causing

more of the childrens' health and behavioral problems than is currently

acknowledged. I spent two years giving antibacterials and antifungals to

my son, and really never made a dent in his dysbiosis; I had been ableto

control his autistic symptoms to a large degree with various

supplements, but I knew that his own body wasn't going to be able to

" take over " and heal itself until the dysbiosis was brought under

control, and I just didn't know how to do that until I found BTVC.

To elaborate on DPP-IV (I am taking this from the work of Dr.

Shaw, who runs Great Plains Laboratory and was the first to recognize

the significance of intestinal pathogens in autistic children):

Dipeptidyl peptidase IV is an intestinal brush border enzyme that is

also present on the cells of lymphocytes (CD4+ helper cells) and is

identical to a cell surface marker called CD26. It is found in the

immune system cells and in the linings of the intestine, kidneys, and

blood vessels. Its job is to break down peptides in which proline is in

the second position of the peptide, including casomorphin and

gliadorphin. In the rest of the body it activates or deactivates other

regulatory peptides that affect hunger, thirst, immunity, growth,

digestive function, blood formation and emotions (interestingly, Dr Shaw

says it breaks apart the fibrillary tangles formed in Alzheimer's). It

contains sulfur and is inhibited by mercury, MMR vaccine, Candida,

certain pesticides, and gluten/casein. Several years ago researchers

hypothesized that a genetic lack of DPP- IV was the cause of autism but

it was found to not be the case.

Doctors treating autistic kids have focused separately on the " peptide

problem " and the " microbe problem " and still haven't really made the

link between the two. But you may be heartened to learn that GIs at

Harvard Mass General Hospital have recently discovered that children

with autism have faulty carbohydrate digestion (really!!!) and so I bet

that in the next few years, in the autism community at least, the

Specific Carbohydrate Diet will get more attention.

Just as a side note, you may be interested to know that Dr. Shaw told me

he had a child getting tested whose urine didn't clear of peptides until

his mom put him on the SCDiet.

Tamaro

[Guest guest]

This is a wonderful explanation about how SCD cures the gut and the leakiness

that leads to large undigested proteins/peptides to come through and cause havoc

on the brain and organs...also causing " allergy " , which is usually not typical

" allergy " at all, and vanishes with time and healing with SCD. Especially if it

was IgG or IgA food intolerance.

Thank you Mimi, Antoinette celiac mom to Kiki celiac/autistic SCD 2/06i

Re: Casein

Elaine: To answer your second question first, yes I completely agree

that eliminating bacterial and/or fungal overgrowths is critical in

controlling leaky gut. And if the gut is less permeable, then the

peptides won't leak out, and the inflammation will die down, and

hopefully more zinc can be absorbed leading to better stomach acid

production, which will in turn stimulate the pancreas - it's all inter-

related. I personally believe, based on my observations and testing of

my son and other ASD children, that intestinal pathogens are causing

more of the childrens' health and behavioral problems than is currently

acknowledged. I spent two years giving antibacterials and antifungals to

my son, and really never made a dent in his dysbiosis; I had been ableto

control his autistic symptoms to a large degree with various

supplements, but I knew that his own body wasn't going to be able to

" take over " and heal itself until the dysbiosis was brought under

control, and I just didn't know how to do that until I found BTVC.

To elaborate on DPP-IV (I am taking this from the work of Dr.

Shaw, who runs Great Plains Laboratory and was the first to recognize

the significance of intestinal pathogens in autistic children):

Dipeptidyl peptidase IV is an intestinal brush border enzyme that is

also present on the cells of lymphocytes (CD4+ helper cells) and is

identical to a cell surface marker called CD26. It is found in the

immune system cells and in the linings of the intestine, kidneys, and

blood vessels. Its job is to break down peptides in which proline is in

the second position of the peptide, including casomorphin and

gliadorphin. In the rest of the body it activates or deactivates other

regulatory peptides that affect hunger, thirst, immunity, growth,

digestive function, blood formation and emotions (interestingly, Dr Shaw

says it breaks apart the fibrillary tangles formed in Alzheimer's). It

contains sulfur and is inhibited by mercury, MMR vaccine, Candida,

certain pesticides, and gluten/casein. Several years ago researchers

hypothesized that a genetic lack of DPP- IV was the cause of autism but

it was found to not be the case.

Doctors treating autistic kids have focused separately on the " peptide

problem " and the " microbe problem " and still haven't really made the

link between the two. But you may be heartened to learn that GIs at

Harvard Mass General Hospital have recently discovered that children

with autism have faulty carbohydrate digestion (really!!!) and so I bet

that in the next few years, in the autism community at least, the

Specific Carbohydrate Diet will get more attention.

Just as a side note, you may be interested to know that Dr. Shaw told me

he had a child getting tested whose urine didn't clear of peptides until

his mom put him on the SCDiet.

Tamaro

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>