Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 andrew wrote: the most important thing that parents do not want to hear about supps is they need to take them themselves to see the effect and get an idea of dose and timing , how does this help if our bodies aren't in the same spot theirs are in? thanks Pearl __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 genetically you don't get much closer you actually don't undertand how impacted you are yourself that you can't see the logic of what i am saying is a sign of sematic pragmatic difficulty on your part and symptomatic of brain injury parents now are to odissociated from their children, the children are objects to fix and be put through systems to repair what i have seen children put through on various boards over the years and irl beggars comprehension in terms of legally sanctioned and encourage cruelty and they wash their hands and say well the doctor said so or the other mothers did it ............. and scream at me and ban me from their boards you need to take the supplements as well to feel first hand the effects and see any problems and also look for ways to improve the supplementation the other reason to take supplements is the primary limitation in a childs progress is the parents diminished mental capacities from various toxcities and you need to grow in problem solving ablity to help your child more and well worked supplementation will help you grow the most important thing that parents do not want to hear about supps > is they need to take them themselves to see the effect and get an > idea of dose and timing > > > , how does this help if our bodies aren't in the same spot theirs are in? thanks Pearl > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 , 3 of the kids that are on this diet are adopted. So that is why I asked the question. Pearl andrew wrote: genetically you don't get much closer you actually don't undertand how impacted you are yourself that you can't see the logic of what i am saying is a sign of sematic pragmatic difficulty on your part and symptomatic of brain injury parents now are to odissociated from their children, the children are objects to fix and be put through systems to repair what i have seen children put through on various boards over the years and irl beggars comprehension in terms of legally sanctioned and encourage cruelty and they wash their hands and say well the doctor said so or the other mothers did it ............. and scream at me and ban me from their boards you need to take the supplements as well to feel first hand the effects and see any problems and also look for ways to improve the supplementation the other reason to take supplements is the primary limitation in a childs progress is the parents diminished mental capacities from various toxcities and you need to grow in problem solving ablity to help your child more and well worked supplementation will help you grow the most important thing that parents do not want to hear about supps > is they need to take them themselves to see the effect and get an > idea of dose and timing > > > , how does this help if our bodies aren't in the same spot theirs are in? thanks Pearl > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 said: genetically you don't get much closer In a strange way has a point. Look at my house. All biologically related are celiac....ADD, ADHD, and now mild autism...many all on the spectrum too, in some odd way or another. KiKi truly reacts to meds and things like her Dad and I do. Now we just assume that she may react similar. Yet still realize that we are all individuals....but take advantage of the history...when using certain drugs and things. Antoinette and entire family of 5 SCD 2/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 , I have 3 adopted children that are on this diet, that is why I was asking. Pearl > genetically you don't get much closer > > you actually don't undertand how impacted you are yourself > > that you can't see the logic of what i am saying is a sign of sematic > pragmatic difficulty on your part and symptomatic of brain injury > > parents now are to odissociated from their children, the children are > objects to fix and be put through systems to repair > > what i have seen children put through on various boards over the > years and irl beggars comprehension in terms of legally sanctioned > and encourage cruelty > > and they wash their hands and say well the doctor said so or the > other mothers did it ............. > > and scream at me and ban me from their boards > > you need to take the supplements as well to feel first hand the > effects and see any problems and also look for ways to improve the > supplementation > > the other reason to take supplements is the primary limitation in a > childs progress is the parents diminished mental capacities from > various toxcities and you need to grow in problem solving ablity to > help your child more > > and well worked supplementation will help you grow > > > > the most important thing that parents > do not want to hear about supps > > is they need to take them themselves to see the effect and get an > > idea of dose and timing > > > > > > , how does this help if our bodies aren't in the same spot > theirs are in? thanks Pearl > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 you cannot do supps for some-one else without doing them yourself its why medicine is so bad on supps scd is the same, meaningless without the personal experience of doing it the most important thing that parents > > do not want to hear about supps > > > is they need to take them themselves to see the effect and get > an > > > idea of dose and timing > > > > > > > > > , how does this help if our bodies aren't in the same > spot > > theirs are in? thanks Pearl > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Antoinette, The three month regression doesn't adhere strictly to the calendar. You have been sailing along on a wave of enthusiasm and been warned by all your " mentors " that there is a long and sometimes bumpy road ahead. A few " aha " moments may be uplifting but all should be aware that healing takes time and it can be two steps forward and one back or even visa versa. I am sure Kiki will recover and get back on track and your journey of hope on the road to success will continue but I urge you to pace yourself or the ups and downs will be psychologically draining. I am willing to bet that there are many parents here who are or have already experienced these highs and lows and found it's best not to take the cake out of the oven before it's done ( just an allegory) Your continued dedication to compliance will help you ride out the storm, but I suggest you conserve your emotional energy and hold off on generalized pronouncements. I say this out of fond concern. > > said: genetically you don't get much closer > > In a strange way has a point. > > Carol F. Toronto, celiac, SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 > andrew wrote: genetically you don't get much > closer > > >>> > parents now are to dissociated from their children, the children are > objects to fix and be put through systems to repair > > what i have seen children put through on various boards over the > years and irl beggars comprehension in terms of legally sanctioned > and encourage cruelty > > and they wash their hands and say well the doctor said so or the > other mothers did it ............. > > and scream at me and ban me from their boards Dear , You may be from down under but you are on top of things! I used to be one of those " screamers " until I realized that although the tone of your messages used to be abrasive, you are intensely dedicated to finding solutions based in science. Although I have had to discard some of the supplements recommended by my physician, I understand how either a deficiency or inability to absorb can neutralize the benefits of nutrients in SCD food, especially at the beginning. And re: taking the doctor's word as final, I also told my family doctor, that until she reads BTVC I cannot always take her advice without doing my own research as she has set me down several garden paths re unnecessary tests and procedures and she proved wrong in the end. Example: Good sources of calcium include dairy foods and leafy green vegetables, although calcium from milk products is more easily absorbed and present in greater amounts. People at different life stages need different amounts of calcium – young children, teenagers and older women all have greater than average requirements. Yet, I just could not get that Kirkman powdered calcium to dissolve in anything but persisted with it for a year. Then I read that the calcium supps may not be helping with osteoporosis. What I do is try to include DCCC, Jarlsburg cheese and yogurt on a daily basis. I also simmer chicken carcasses to get a broth that is heavily jelled. It still may not bring me up to the daily RDAs in the calcium area. Time to chew canned salmon bones and use more dark greens vegetables. What is your opinion on calcium? > Carol F. Toronto, celiac, SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 > Yet, I just could not get that Kirkman powdered calcium to dissolve in > anything but persisted with it for a year. Then I read that the calcium > supps may not be helping with osteoporosis. What I do is try to include > DCCC, Jarlsburg cheese and yogurt on a daily basis. I also simmer > chicken carcasses to get a broth that is heavily jelled. It still may > not bring me up to the daily RDAs in the calcium area. Time to chew > canned salmon bones and use more dark greens vegetables. What is your > opinion on calcium? > > > Carol F. > Toronto, celiac, SCD 6 years ----------------- a big toxcity problem is western societies over the last couple of hundred years has been lead poisoning hence theres a lot of cultural dietary advice emphasising milk and calcium as calcium and lead are chemically very similar and tend to displace each other with menopause women with lead in the bones start to release more lead from the cheese and milk and yogurt i eat, i have to much calcium and have to watch the amount of vit d and gelatin since vit d mobilises calcium and gelatin(source of glutamine) combined with too much calcium can kill nerve cells from a point of view of oesteoporosis the problem is not a shortage of calcium but keeping it in the bone decent sun which you will never get in canada seems to be able to revitalise female hormone production but and oral lanolin derived d would be helpful but there are pros and cons of oral and skin vit d as discussed in my previous posts the other thing is calcium is just the bulk mineral for bones, adequate copper, manganese, and MAGNESIUM are very improtant, but you can't just take any old mineral as some forms work and some don't like inorganic magnesiums are huge intestinal yeast promotors when elaine gottschall was developing scd, the forms of mineral chelates like magnesium taurate were not avaliable, so she was understandably leery of inorganic mineral supplements, as they promoted yeast the problem is not lack of calcium but the need for its cofactors like vit d and other minerals and really 'the right sun' which is hard to get my dual selenium protocol is good for handling the mobilised lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 > > my dual selenium protocol is good for handling the mobilised lead please email link to selenium protocols mentioned in response to my = calcium questions. Carol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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