RE: hyper and not sleeping

[Guest guest]

Cindy,

Both of my boys reacted to baths with hyperactivity until I started

putting epsom salts in the water.

I don't know if that will make a difference for your son, but it's an

inexpensive thing to try.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Are you doing epsom salts in the bath? That might help.

Some kids react negatively to chlorine in the water. When bathing or showering,

you actually breath it in as it off-gasses from the warm water. You might

consider a filter on the bath tap. I had to put one on the shower head... then

installed one of those hand-held shower hoses, so I could lay it down in the tub

to fill for Katera's bath.

Patti

hyper and not sleeping

Can anyone give me any suggestions on sleep? My son seems to get very

hyper after his bath, needs melatonin (1mg) to get to sleep, and then

gets back up usually 2-3 hours later for the rest of the night. Once

he is up, he is up running and playing for at least five more hours.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

thanks, Cindy

mom of Kasam ASD

[Guest guest]

I'm new to this, but from what I've read, I'm pretty sure that melatonin is

illegal. So I have ordered some GABA from Kirkman labs. I guess I'll see if

that helps.

As far as non-diet ideas, you can find tons of stuff in places like magazine

articles. No TV (or any other type of screen-time I would suppose) after 6 or 7

in the evening.

Quiet time for 20-40 minutes prior to bed time. maybe reading or playing just

so long as you watch out for him getting more active and encourage him to settle

down if he gets to running or jumping.

No long naps during the day.

No sleeping in really late in the morning.

I'll think of more ideas later. With these types of ideas you can just pick

and choose which ones to try and if necessary come back and choose some more to

try. You never know which one or what combination of things might work best.

I used to take L-tryptophan when I was a teenager, but since our FDA made that

illegal and then never reinstated it, I haven't used it in ages. I don't

suppose you live in Canada? Then you could try that. If I remember right it is

an amino acid, so I'm guessing that it would be legal, although I can't find it

listed as legal or illegal. I've also used Valerian in the past, but since it

is also not mentioned on my legal/illegal list I'm not sure if I'd try it now,

while I'm trying to get started on SCD.

Sheril

Cindy wrote:

Can anyone give me any suggestions on sleep? My son seems to get very

hyper after his bath, needs melatonin (1mg) to get to sleep, and then

gets back up usually 2-3 hours later for the rest of the night. Once

he is up, he is up running and playing for at least five more hours.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

thanks, Cindy

mom of Kasam ASD

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy

Im a begginer SCD. My son has seizures (tiny seizures) but just one is enough

to get hyper after the next hours and he can't sleep. some times we have been

awake until 3am. Two weeks ago the nutritionist recommended us for those

situations give him meat (Protein and fat) it really sounds crazy but it works.

The last two seizures we tried it, one he was awake until 1 am and I gave him

60gr of meat and 40gr of avocado, he fell asleep on less 20 minutes. You can

try it.

Cindy escribió:

Can anyone give me any suggestions on sleep? My son seems to get very

hyper after his bath, needs melatonin (1mg) to get to sleep, and then

gets back up usually 2-3 hours later for the rest of the night. Once

he is up, he is up running and playing for at least five more hours.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

thanks, Cindy

mom of Kasam ASD

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice. We are new to SCD as well. Kasam has never

been much for sleep, but it seems to be worse lately. I will try

the protein and fat kind of thing and see what happens. I am also

trying his bath earlier tonight and took away the epsom salt.

Thanks again,

Cindy, mom of Kasam ASD 4 1/2, SCD 1 week!!

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> Hi Cindy

> Im a begginer SCD. My son has seizures (tiny seizures) but just

one is enough to get hyper after the next hours and he can't sleep.

some times we have been awake until 3am. Two weeks ago the

nutritionist recommended us for those situations give him meat

(Protein and fat) it really sounds crazy but it works. The last two

seizures we tried it, one he was awake until 1 am and I gave him

60gr of meat and 40gr of avocado, he fell asleep on less 20

minutes. You can try it.

>

> Cindy escribió:

> Can anyone give me any suggestions on sleep? My son

seems to get very

> hyper after his bath, needs melatonin (1mg) to get to sleep, and

then

> gets back up usually 2-3 hours later for the rest of the night.

Once

> he is up, he is up running and playing for at least five more

hours.

> Any suggestions are appreciated.

> thanks, Cindy

> mom of Kasam ASD

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[Guest guest]

> Are you doing epsom salts in the bath? That might help.

>

> Some kids react negatively to chlorine in the water. When bathing or

> showering, you actually breath it in as it off-gasses from the warm

> water. You might consider a filter on the bath tap. I had to put one

> on the shower head... then installed one of those hand-held shower

> hoses, so I could lay it down in the tub to fill for Katera's bath.

>

> Patti

I have used the rainshowers Crystal bathh ball and its refills for six

years and think it is just great!

>

> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006TU0SM/103-9026503-7029454?

> v=glance & n=284507

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

Patti

What was the brand of your filter? Where did you get it?

Rob's mom

Re: hyper and not sleeping

Are you doing epsom salts in the bath? That might help.

Some kids react negatively to chlorine in the water. When bathing or

showering, you actually breath it in as it off-gasses from the warm

water. You might consider a filter on the bath tap. I had to put one on

the shower head... then installed one of those hand-held shower hoses,

so I could lay it down in the tub to fill for Katera's bath.

Patti

hyper and not sleeping

Can anyone give me any suggestions on sleep? My son seems to get very

hyper after his bath, needs melatonin (1mg) to get to sleep, and then

gets back up usually 2-3 hours later for the rest of the night. Once

he is up, he is up running and playing for at least five more hours.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

thanks, Cindy

mom of Kasam ASD

[Guest guest]

I bought mine from allergybegone.com ... it's the " April Original " ... very

inexpensive. Lots of other sites have the same one, or very similar. This one is

okay. I think I might buy an Aquasana next time (www.aquasanausa.com ), but it

costs a bit more.

Patti

RE: hyper and not sleeping

Patti

What was the brand of your filter? Where did you get it?

Rob's mom

[Guest guest]

Have you tried epsom salt baths? Magnesium Sulfite helps you to relax. Also

chamomile tea or sleepy time tea works well to encourage sleep. Many children

have problems with refined sugars and dyes (especially red). Hope this helps.

in NJ

[Guest guest]

Sheryl

Thanks for all of your suggestions, tried most of them. Melatonin

is the only way to get him even in the right direction of the bed,

it is only 1 mg. I don't want to use it, but most nights I am

desperate.

I am researcing phenols in foods right now. The website I found

mentioned some phenols can cause hyperactivity, trouble getting to

bed, and then waking in the night and not going back to sleep.

This is our situation exactly. So, now I am playing around with the

foods more, what little we can have yet. Our big enemy I feel is

the grape juice. I put him back on pear yesterday (w/o added sugar)

and also took out egg yolks (both high in phenols). He slept 5 1/2

hours last night, better than it has been for quite a while. He was

on pear before starting the diet for about one month, sleep had

improved greatly. He used to drink apple or grape which are both

high in phenols.

Cindy, mom of Kasam ASD 4 1/2 SCD 11 days

> Can anyone give me any suggestions on sleep? My son

seems to get very

> hyper after his bath, needs melatonin (1mg) to get to sleep, and

then

> gets back up usually 2-3 hours later for the rest of the night.

Once

> he is up, he is up running and playing for at least five more

hours.

> Any suggestions are appreciated.

> thanks, Cindy

> mom of Kasam ASD

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[Guest guest]

Jay, becomes very yeasty with juice of any kind, he now drinks water, much

better and such a good habit to pick up, best wishes Josie x

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> Cindy,

> You know you can use the Welch's white grape juice, too? I think it's lower.

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> Patti

> Re: hyper and not sleeping

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> Our big enemy I feel is

> the grape juice.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Patti

He was drinking both kinds of juice and I truly believe that was a

big culprit. We are trying baths earlier in the evening and have

gone back without epsom salts, might try again later. We have went

9 out of 11 nights without full sleep. I have decided to keep a

close eye on phenols and see what happens.

Thanks

Cindy, mom of Kasam 4 1/2 ASD, SCD 11 days

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> Cindy,

> You know you can use the Welch's white grape juice, too? I think

it's lower.

>

> Patti

> Re: hyper and not sleeping

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> Our big enemy I feel is

> the grape juice.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> Have you tried epsom salt baths? Magnesium Sulfite helps you to

relax. Also

> chamomile tea or sleepy time tea works well to encourage sleep.

Sorry, but chamomile tea is not SCD legal. The sleepy time tea has

chamomile in it so it is not legal either.

Legal teas are peppermint, spearmint and weak black tea.

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and