Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 I would definitely like to get some more info on what you said about the fruit cravings because I can tell you that my son eats fruit like it's going out of style. He has at least 5 pieces of fruit a day. He is always asking for it. Where can I read about this high gi/low gi thing and the sugar/fruit cravings? Also, could this explain his screaming in the night? I never give him any food during the night. He just eventually goes back to sleep, or sometimes he doesn't even wake up. He just screams while he's sleeping. Thanks to any info the anyone can give. Meleah scd 3 mths. Nathniel 3yrs., asd Ethan 5 yrs., Mark 1yr. re/ high GI low GI > Hi all , we have been SCD with our youngest daughter for 2/ 3 months. > recently she has been waking up at 4 am or 5 am instead of her usuall > 8 am. She then screams, has a bottle of young coconut kefir sweetened > with honey and 20 minutes later is back to bed sleeping. I have heard > that the SCD is high GI and will affect sugar(i.e fruit ) cravings. > Could this be the case. How would I fix the situation. > > thanks in advance. > > Rocanddi > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 I am confused... you say she has been on SCD for 2 to 3 months... but you are giving her coconut kefir? Kefir is not something that is recommended until much further along on SCD. Here are some comments from Elaine's website: <<From Pecan Bread support group From Elaine: Kefir is a yeast fermentation which produces alcohol. So the yogurt made from Kefir grains will have a good deal of alcohol. Furthermore, upon checking, I have found that after a 24 hour fermentation there is 5% lactose remaining in kefir fermented milk. Kefir is a wonderful food but I cannot recommend it until the child is well. Seth writes: Kefir is more potent than yoghurt, so if one cannot tolerate the yoghurt then I would be cautious about trying kefir. Did you try straining the yoghurt? Making your own kefir isn't as easy as yoghurt to get started, but once you get started with it I think it can be easier. If you're really interested in making Kefir, I suggest that you join a list dedicated to it. The one I belong to is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_Making If you let them know that you are on the SCDT and need to remove all lactose, then Dominic (the list owner) will help you out and you can get grains. There seems to be a bit of confusion over the word grain. Kefir has no grains of the wheat, barley, corn, and rice variety. The Kefir grain looks like small cauliflower and is squooshy like rubber. It is made of a polysaccharide matrix that the microbes make from the milk and live in/on it. The yeast are beneficial ones. Just as there are " good " and " bad " bacteria, there are " good " and " bad " yeast. Kefir is something I recommend to my friends who are on long antibiotic treatments because antibiotics do not kill the yeast in Kefir - so this is one advantage that kefir has over yoghurt. From the LI listserve>> clipped from www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info Patti re/ high GI low GI Hi all , we have been SCD with our youngest daughter for 2/ 3 months. recently she has been waking up at 4 am or 5 am instead of her usuall 8 am. She then screams, has a bottle of young coconut kefir sweetened with honey and 20 minutes later is back to bed sleeping. I have heard that the SCD is high GI and will affect sugar(i.e fruit ) cravings. Could this be the case. How would I fix the situation. thanks in advance. Rocanddi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi Patti When i stated we are giving coconut kefir/ this is made from fermenting the water from coconuts. it definitely has no lactose. I am still concerned as to why she is waking up at 5 am . thanks Rocanddi > > I am confused... you say she has been on SCD for 2 to 3 months... but you are giving her coconut kefir? Kefir is not something that is recommended until much further along on SCD. Here are some comments from Elaine's website: > > > <<From Pecan Bread support group > > > From Elaine: > Kefir is a yeast fermentation which produces alcohol. So the yogurt made from Kefir grains will have a good deal of alcohol. Furthermore, upon checking, I have found that after a 24 hour fermentation there is 5% lactose remaining in kefir fermented milk. Kefir is a wonderful food but I cannot recommend it until the child is well. > > Seth writes: > Kefir is more potent than yoghurt, so if one cannot tolerate the yoghurt then I would be cautious about trying kefir. Did you try straining the yoghurt? Making your own kefir isn't as easy as yoghurt to get started, but once you get started with it I think it can be easier. > > If you're really interested in making Kefir, I suggest that you join a list dedicated to it. The one I belong to is: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_Making > > If you let them know that you are on the SCDT and need to remove all lactose, then Dominic (the list owner) will help you out and you can get grains. > > There seems to be a bit of confusion over the word grain. Kefir has no grains of the wheat, barley, corn, and rice variety. The Kefir grain looks like small cauliflower and is squooshy like rubber. It is made of a polysaccharide matrix that the microbes make from the milk and live in/on it. The yeast are beneficial ones. Just as there are " good " and " bad " bacteria, there are " good " and " bad " yeast. Kefir is something I recommend to my friends who are on long antibiotic treatments because antibiotics do not kill the yeast in Kefir - so this is one advantage that kefir has over yoghurt. > From the LI listserve>> > > clipped from www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > > > Patti > > re/ high GI low GI > > > Hi all , we have been SCD with our youngest daughter for 2/ 3 months. > recently she has been waking up at 4 am or 5 am instead of her usuall > 8 am. She then screams, has a bottle of young coconut kefir sweetened > with honey and 20 minutes later is back to bed sleeping. I have heard > that the SCD is high GI and will affect sugar(i.e fruit ) cravings. > Could this be the case. How would I fix the situation. > > thanks in advance. > > Rocanddi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hmmmm.... okay, well... I am very unsure on the advisability of using coconut kefir for new SCD-ers... but I'll defer to someone else because I just really don't know. I know most of us do not use it. I really don't know about the early waking. My daughter (age almost 10) was going through a phase of waking up at 5:30 am for most of the summer (considerably earlier than Mommy wants to get up)... and then suddenly, started sleeping in till 8 am about two weeks ago. Kids just do that sometimes. It's very frustrating... that we just sometimes don't know why, and have to make adjustments and try to accomodate somehow. Early on, I took it as a sign that she needed more exercize (she has CP and does not walk a lot unless we take her out and walk with her)... and we also started keeping her up a bit later. But, it took a month or more before it actually changed her waking routine. In terms of SCD, when kids are new to the diet, their systems are often detoxifying... the dealing with those toxins as the body has to process them and get rid of them may be somewhat stimulating... or may make them a little uncomfortable. As the digestion changes, it may change all kinds of other body rhythms. That's just a guess on my part. I feel for ya... sleep deprivation is wearing on parents. Patti Re: re/ high GI low GI Hi Patti When i stated we are giving coconut kefir/ this is made from fermenting the water from coconuts. it definitely has no lactose. I am still concerned as to why she is waking up at 5 am . thanks Rocanddi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 > > Hmmmm.... okay, well... I am very unsure on the advisability of using coconut kefir for new SCD-ers... but I'll defer to someone else because I just really don't know. I know most of us do not use it. > Young green coconut water should never be used on DCD. That is a protocol from the Body Ecology Diet and it has made children ill. Mimi will know about other cocnut kefir, it's value and when it can be introduced. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 To make SCD legal coconut kefir you need to make sure of the following points: 1)Use mature coconuts rather than young ones. 2)Use the traditional kefir grains as starter rather than the ones made by the Body Ecology Diet. The list below will help you find the traditional starter: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_Making Elaine was very concerned that kefir was too powerful a product for beginners so I would wait till the child had more gut healing before attempting to use it. You can make coconut yogurt instead. Mimi > > > > > Hmmmm.... okay, well... I am very unsure on the advisability of using > coconut kefir for > new SCD-ers... but I'll defer to someone else because I just really don't > know. I know most > of us do not use it. > > > Young green coconut water should never be used on DCD. That is a protocol > from the > Body Ecology Diet and it has made children ill. > > Mimi will know about other cocnut kefir, it's value and when it can be > introduced. > > Carol F. > SCD 6 years, > celiac > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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