Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 June, I would not risk it based on what you said. Do you have the same reaction to goat's milk? If you do, please check out the recipe for nut yogurt and make that for yourself instead. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 > Hi all, > > I have always had a problem with dairy. I have one of the genes with > for celiac disease and had stool antibodies to gluten and casein. I > also have a really bad reaction to whey protein powder.(vomiting, > diarrhea ,palpitations, shaking and then shortness of breath which > lasts 6 hours unless I take medication.) > > Has anyone here had a bad reaction to whey but been able to eat cheese? > I also have the same reaction to mold containing food. > > Thanks, > June Whey protein is not allowed on SCD. > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 If your allergy is to casein, it is found in all milk products - whey, lactose, cheese, etc. Goat milk casein is so similar to cow milk casein that 95% of people who are allergic to cow milk are also allergic to goat milk. The most succesful way to " outgrow " an allergy is through total and complete avoidance for a prolonged period of time (usually at least 6 months but can be years). Complete avoidance means no derivatives of milk that have casein - like whey of cheese, etc. This is no guarantee that you will outgrow the allergy, but it's your best shot. When proteins get partially denatured, like in cheeses or in cooking, they body may not react as strongly or in any recognizable way, but the exposure to the casein proteins may trigger the body's recognition of the antigen, which would still slow down your chance of outgrowing the allergy. In addition, over time being exposed to small amounts of casein could strengthen your allergy and make your reactions to a large exposure more severe - you could go from vomiting (uncomfortable but maybe tolerable enough if you want to eat, say ice cream really badly) to total anaphylaxis (which could be fatal). Cheeses often have mold - some of them are intentionally produced with mold, like bleu cheese. On the other hand, if you don't react to any other kinds of milk products, it could be something in the whey protein powder. It could even have mold in it. Suzanne > > Hi all, > > I have always had a problem with dairy. I have one of the genes with > for celiac disease and had stool antibodies to gluten and casein. I > also have a really bad reaction to whey protein powder.(vomiting, > diarrhea ,palpitations, shaking and then shortness of breath which > lasts 6 hours unless I take medication.) > > Has anyone here had a bad reaction to whey but been able to eat cheese? > I also have the same reaction to mold containing food. > > Thanks, > June > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hi Carol, I had the whey protein weeks before starting SCD. Thanks, June > > > Hi all, > > > > I have always had a problem with dairy. I have one of the genes with > > for celiac disease and had stool antibodies to gluten and casein. I > > also have a really bad reaction to whey protein powder.(vomiting, > > diarrhea ,palpitations, shaking and then shortness of breath which > > lasts 6 hours unless I take medication.) > > > > Has anyone here had a bad reaction to whey but been able to eat cheese? > > I also have the same reaction to mold containing food. > > > > Thanks, > > June > Whey protein is not allowed on SCD. > > > > > > Carol F. > Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS > SCD 6 years > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Many people who cannot tolerate dairy can tolerate yogurt. Elaine Gottschall explains why in the post below. Mimi *THE PROCESS OF MAKING YOGURT ALSO CHANGES THE CASEIN When we make yogurt and the pH falls to about 4.5 rather than 7.1 or 7.2 (as in fluid milk), the proteins are denatured. This means that because of the acidity, the proteins lose their 3 dimensional structure (sterochemistry), the reason allergists worry about casein. In yogurt and in naturally made and aged cheeses, the casein is denatured into a two-dimensional structure which is less likely to cause allergic reactions. Elaine Gottschall > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have always had a problem with dairy. I have one of the genes with > > for celiac disease and had stool antibodies to gluten and casein. I > > also have a really bad reaction to whey protein powder. (vomiting, > > diarrhea ,palpitations, shaking and then shortness of breath which > > lasts 6 hours unless I take medication.) > > > > Has anyone here had a bad reaction to whey but been able to eat > cheese? > > I also have the same reaction to mold containing food. > > > > Thanks, > > June > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 There is a very famous research article about the gut problems of children with autism. This article gives us hope that SCD will help with food intolerances. The Jyonouchi research article says that : " Children with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) frequently reveal various gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms that may resolve with an elimination diet along with apparent improvement of some of the behavioral symptoms " The eliminated foods were: " gliadin, cow's milk protein (CMP),soy... " The Jyonouchi article also vindicates SCD. It says that this intolerance to cow dairy is caused by endotoxin, a product of the gut bacteria. Since SCD decreases the gut bacteria that is responsible for the food intolerance we can predict improvements. We have seen that a child's reaction to casein will lessen after being on SCD for more than a month, The parent who wants to try the SCD goat yogurt should start out with only 1/8 of a teaspoon or less. Some children show a temporary die off reaction if you use 1/4 of a teaspoon or more. Mimi > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have always had a problem with dairy. I have one of the genes with > > for celiac disease and had stool antibodies to gluten and casein. I > > also have a really bad reaction to whey protein powder. (vomiting, > > diarrhea ,palpitations, shaking and then shortness of breath which > > lasts 6 hours unless I take medication.) > > > > Has anyone here had a bad reaction to whey but been able to eat > cheese? > > I also have the same reaction to mold containing food. > > > > Thanks, > > June > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 OK great! This gives me hope that someday I may be able to have cheese! I take SCDophilus now. Thanks so much, June P.S. I didn't have a reaction right away when I used to have cheese.This is very interesting.JV -- In pecanbread , " recoverymaze " wrote: > > There is a very famous research article about the gut problems of > children with autism. This article gives us hope that SCD will help > with food intolerances. > > The Jyonouchi research article says that : > > " Children with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) frequently reveal > various gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms that may resolve with an > elimination diet along with apparent improvement of some of the > behavioral symptoms " > > The eliminated foods were: " gliadin, cow's milk protein > (CMP),soy... " > > The Jyonouchi article also vindicates SCD. It says that this > intolerance to cow dairy is caused by endotoxin, a product of the > gut bacteria. > > Since SCD decreases the gut bacteria that is responsible for the > food intolerance we can predict improvements. We have seen that a > child's reaction to casein will lessen after being on SCD for more > than a month, > > The parent who wants to try the SCD goat yogurt should start out > with only 1/8 of a teaspoon or less. Some children show a temporary > die off reaction if you use 1/4 of a teaspoon or more. > > Mimi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have always had a problem with dairy. I have one of the genes > with > > > for celiac disease and had stool antibodies to gluten and > casein. I > > > also have a really bad reaction to whey protein powder. > (vomiting, > > > diarrhea ,palpitations, shaking and then shortness of breath > which > > > lasts 6 hours unless I take medication.) > > > > > > Has anyone here had a bad reaction to whey but been able to eat > > cheese? > > > I also have the same reaction to mold containing food. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > June > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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