Veggies/ Was:Re: Dry Curd Cottage Cheese Lifespan???

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

Since he has not been on the diet very long, I'm wondering about the fresh

juices. This is kind of a gray area. When juicing, you remove the fiber, making

it not a digestion issue. But, carrot juice does have a lot of natural sugar.

I've said this before to other parents... it could be that it sates his hunger

and makes him not as willing to eat other foods. Are you using small amounts?

And diluting?

I am not saying it's illegal.... although technically BTVC does say to " peel and

cook " all fruits and veggies in the beginning (I'd say that at only six weeks

in, you're still very much at the beginning). Elaine was a bit leary of fresh

juices and was concerned that we only use small amounts at first. I'm not sure

if fresh, raw juices are quite as easy on the gut as cooked veggies/fruits.

Your other statement:

<<I'm worried too much and the veggies will eventually get worked into

his diet?>>

Could be very true! It's a lot of pressure on us moms, isn't it? All the

worrying about whether or not they're getting enough?

take care,

Patti

Veggies/ Was:Re: Dry Curd Cottage Cheese Lifespan???

I've managed to get plenty of butternut in, some zucchini if peeled

(no green showing). I guess I feel like he needs more " greens " - green

beans, broccoli, spinach and such that are harder to sneak. He will

happily drink fresh carrot juice made w/ granny smith apple and a

bunch of spinach- I hope that's OK for where we are at w/ cooked

fruits. He will also only eat bits of meat when coaxed or I have to

say, no more applesauce till you eat a few bites of chicken and so

on. If I would let him, he would live off of scrambled eggs and

bananas and nothing else.

I can't figure out why, but the chicken muffins made him wheeze.

Separately, all the ingredients have given him no trouble. That was

his only wheezing incident, otherwise he has been doing well. Maybe

I'm worried too much and the veggies will eventually get worked into

his diet? He is doing really well the last few days- poops are more

and more normal by the day. I love the recipes at pecanbread, but

haven't tried them all. Will give them another look and look for some

higher veggie ones to try. Thanks!

Janet,mom to Cody- SCD since 4-17-06- multi food allergies, asthma-

currently off all meds- growing like a weed and looking healthier!

>

> Janet,

> Have you tried sneaking veggie purees into the baked goods? Recipes

on pecanbread.com?

>

> Patti

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Dear Janet, remember what I have to. This is what I remind myself: It took

time to get sick, it takes time to heal. Some things hang around....vanish and

reappear again. This is the joys of the first year. lol!....but yet not so

funny. For some longer than one year. Matters how damaged your intestines

where when you arrived. We are only 4 months out....just had a joyous die off

again. I feel much better today though. Be prepared. Set backs are part of

the healing process. UNLIKE me, try not to freak out over them so much.LOL!

This last die off freaked me out a little. We can hang on to each other lol!

By the sounds of how he is eating......I do this too, I think we are both

worrying toooooo much! Again as addiction and cravings vanish....veggies start

to taste better. Until them sneak-em...but don't stress-em. My kids now love

straight broccoli....my (at the times 4 year old), came to Pecan Bread a ketchup

and French fries addict! Hated anything green...Now it is HULK FOOD he likes!

Yet admit he dips his steamed broccoli in apple sauce...we let him. Is your

son old enough to watch the " Incredible Hulk " ? All boys want to be strong and

" green " ...lol!

Hope this helps, Antoinette (2/06 and healing myself and family when no other

way worked/problems celiac/add, adhd, autism and more)

[Guest guest]

<<This just screams at me- TOO MUCH FRUIT!!>>

Okay.... good! You see it, too! Yeah, I think kids will automatically steer

toward the sweeter tasting foods... and I know what you're saying about there

being no problem with his appetite. But what I was trying to say was, he might

accept more of the less-sweet stuff... more meat, more veggies... if he weren't

allowed that natural sugar fix so much.

'Cause I'm sure he will tell you " Mom... I'm HUNGRY " ... but he means he's hungry

for more juice, more fruit sauces, more banana pudding.... NOT that he's hungry

for more pot roast and green beans! Right? So see what I'm saying? There is

hungry... and then there is HUNGRY. LOL

Did I already ask you if you'd tried the sneaky muffin and sneaky pancake

recipes Jody has posted on pecanbread.com? I probly did.

You can maybe sort of sllllooooowwwwwly adjust the proportions that way, to get

his tastebuds adjusted to the less sweet tastes. I know all those fruits are

legal... but he may need a little more balance.

I wonder why the chicken makes him wheeze? Is this organic chicken? I know most

non-organic chicken is fed feed that is laced with arsenic. Nice, eh?

best,

Patti, mom to Katera

[Guest guest]

Thanks Patti for the ideas. I will definitely try some more of the

sneaky recipes at Pecanbread. As a sweets craver myself, I think I

tend to serve the sweets over the veggies, so a lot of it's on me. I

get the natural chicken with no antibiotics or hormones, but

can't get organic chicken where I'm at He seems OK with small

amounts of chicken, it's a lot that gets him. He ate the entire batch

of ' Chicken Muffins at supper one night and also several chicken

legs another night and both made him wheeze. Otherwise, besides the

pecan and coconut flour trials- he's done great w/ his asthma!

I like your idea of slllloooowwwly getting him converted to veggies-

does avocado count as a veggie or fruit? I tried it plain with him

and he hated it, but I thought I could try sneaking it in things to

start with.

Now, I've just recently had eye surgery and since I'm seeing spots I

think I'd better go close my eyes a while! I do appreciate your

advice!

Janet, mom to Cody- SCD since 4-17-06- multi food allergies

> You can maybe sort of sllllooooowwwwwly adjust the proportions that

way, to get his tastebuds adjusted to the less sweet tastes. I know

all those fruits are legal... but he may need a little more balance.

>

> I wonder why the chicken makes him wheeze? Is this organic chicken?

I know most non-organic chicken is fed feed that is laced with

arsenic. Nice, eh?

>

> best,

> Patti, mom to Katera

[Guest guest]

Janet,

You asked:

<<I like your idea of slllloooowwwly getting him converted to veggies-

does avocado count as a veggie or fruit?>>

Well, technically, I guess avacado is a fruit... but I'd think of it as a

veggie, b/c it isn't sweet.

Yes, it can be a " sneaky " ingredient in various things. I have not personally

tried baking it into muffins or anything, but I know it can be done. I sort of

mash it into scrambled eggs.

Once you're doing yogurt, you can make a great dip with avacado, yogurt, crushed

dried basil and dill, a little salt and lemon juice. In fact, salt and lemon

juice GREATly enhance the flavor of avacado, imo.... so even if you're not doing

yogurt, you might be able to doll it up with those other ingredients and

convince him to dip cooked, chilled baby carrots or something.

Good luck!

Patti