Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 > We are supposed to stay casein free, so is butter ok to use? What is > the deal on that? Should we abstain from butter initially until some > healing has taken place, or can we start right out on it? You can make ghee. Place one pound of butter (unsalted) in a good sized pan, with a good heavy base.Heat gently until butter melts, then turn heat up to medium. Once it starts boiling turn down to a low heat again. Let it simmer away gently. It will foam and splutter. This is just the butter giving off the liquids, as it turns itself into the magical ghee!! Do not cover the pot or you will interfere with this process. Stir from time to time. After 10-15 minutes it should start to smell 'popcorny'...mmmmm!!! It should also turn a lovely golden shade. Skim off any foam from the top. When mixture has cooled slightly pour it into a jar with an airtight top. There will be some solids at the bottom of the pan. Some people discard it. Others find it a delicious treat, on bread, or straight from the spoon! It has a very long shelf life. Traditionally it is not kept in the fridge ,but do so if you prefer. It will easily keep for a few months...... However, once the jar is opened make sure you always use a clean dry spoon to extract the contents or you will easily contaminate it. > > > > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Carol, we can find Ghee at Whole Foods right nearby. Would that work as well, or is the homemade version the better bet? Once you've made it this way, do you just use it as a one-to-one substitute for butter then? Thanks!! Carol Frilegh wrote: > We are supposed to stay casein free, so is butter ok to use? What is > the deal on that? Should we abstain from butter initially until some > healing has taken place, or can we start right out on it? You can make ghee. Place one pound of butter (unsalted) in a good sized pan, with a good heavy base.Heat gently until butter melts, then turn heat up to medium. Once it starts boiling turn down to a low heat again. Let it simmer away gently. It will foam and splutter. This is just the butter giving off the liquids, as it turns itself into the magical ghee!! Do not cover the pot or you will interfere with this process. Stir from time to time. After 10-15 minutes it should start to smell 'popcorny'...mmmmm!!! It should also turn a lovely golden shade. Skim off any foam from the top. When mixture has cooled slightly pour it into a jar with an airtight top. There will be some solids at the bottom of the pan. Some people discard it. Others find it a delicious treat, on bread, or straight from the spoon! It has a very long shelf life. Traditionally it is not kept in the fridge ,but do so if you prefer. It will easily keep for a few months...... However, once the jar is opened make sure you always use a clean dry spoon to extract the contents or you will easily contaminate it. > > > > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 You can use Ghee (clarified butter where the casein proteins are removed)or you can also use coconut oil > > We are supposed to stay casein free, so is butter ok to use? What is > the deal on that? Should we abstain from butter initially until some > healing has taken place, or can we start right out on it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 > Carol, we can find Ghee at Whole Foods right nearby. Would that work > as well, or is the homemade version the better bet? > > Once you've made it this way, do you just use it as a one-to-one > substitute for butter then? Thanks!! I only made it twice in a tiny quantity and it was so yummy. It can be sued wherever you would use butter. > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Butter does contain some casein, and the truly sensitive (like my sons) have even reacted to traces of casein in some brands of ghee. So I use Purity Farms ghee (which is both lactose and casein free, says so right on the label) mixed with a health food store shortening (all fats, no proteins) and a little salt. We've done this for years, pre-scd, and still do it, as it tastes good, too! Butter is roughly 80% fat so ghee, which is the fat portion of butter, is about the same as 3/4 to 4/5 of the butter called for in recipes. Same is true of this kind of all-fat blend. On the other hand, all cheese contains lots of casein, so if your child tolerates cheese, I would assume that the small amount of casein in butter is not a problem. Someone more experienced with scd could tell you when this might happen, or how to tell if that amount of healing has taken place. My 12 year old non-autistic son reacted slightly, behaviorally, to his first trial of casein (cheese) on SCD, but not to his second, his third (scd yogurt), or, so far, his fourth (cheese, today.) My 16 year old autistic son seems to have done alright with a spoonful of scd goat yogurt yesterday, so we gave him another today. I know this is much earlier to try casein than is suggested on this list, but our years of gfcf should have calmed his immune response somewhat; my two non-autistic kids are hungry and one is losing weight; I only have this summer for a real scd-trial for four of us; and I am keen to get to the point of tolerating yogurt and cheese before our vacation in the San Islands next month. Lorilyn, day 10 of attempt #2 SCD, and almost ten years GFCF Butter? Ok for autistic patients? What's the deal? We are supposed to stay casein free, so is butter ok to use? What is the deal on that? Should we abstain from butter initially until some healing has taken place, or can we start right out on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Thanks, Lorilyn, I will look for that - does WF carry it? Trader Joe's? Lorilyn Teasdale wrote: Butter does contain some casein, and the truly sensitive (like my sons) have even reacted to traces of casein in some brands of ghee. So I use Purity Farms ghee (which is both lactose and casein free, says so right on the label) mixed with a health food store shortening (all fats, no proteins) and a little salt. We've done this for years, pre-scd, and still do it, as it tastes good, too! Butter is roughly 80% fat so ghee, which is the fat portion of butter, is about the same as 3/4 to 4/5 of the butter called for in recipes. Same is true of this kind of all-fat blend. On the other hand, all cheese contains lots of casein, so if your child tolerates cheese, I would assume that the small amount of casein in butter is not a problem. Someone more experienced with scd could tell you when this might happen, or how to tell if that amount of healing has taken place. My 12 year old non-autistic son reacted slightly, behaviorally, to his first trial of casein (cheese) on SCD, but not to his second, his third (scd yogurt), or, so far, his fourth (cheese, today.) My 16 year old autistic son seems to have done alright with a spoonful of scd goat yogurt yesterday, so we gave him another today. I know this is much earlier to try casein than is suggested on this list, but our years of gfcf should have calmed his immune response somewhat; my two non-autistic kids are hungry and one is losing weight; I only have this summer for a real scd-trial for four of us; and I am keen to get to the point of tolerating yogurt and cheese before our vacation in the San Islands next month. Lorilyn, day 10 of attempt #2 SCD, and almost ten years GFCF Butter? Ok for autistic patients? What's the deal? We are supposed to stay casein free, so is butter ok to use? What is the deal on that? Should we abstain from butter initially until some healing has taken place, or can we start right out on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Oh, ok, coconut oil! :smacks self in head: I have some of that here in my pantry. So, for all those wonderful baked goods recipes, we could also use coconut oil as a total butter substitute as well? Sorry for wanting so much clarification . ..just want to do this right. mother_0f2 wrote: You can use Ghee (clarified butter where the casein proteins are removed)or you can also use coconut oil > > We are supposed to stay casein free, so is butter ok to use? What is > the deal on that? Should we abstain from butter initially until some > healing has taken place, or can we start right out on it? > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I think you might want to use a tiny bit less coconut oil than butter. Give it a try. Patti Re: Re: Butter? Ok for autistic patients? What's the deal? So, for all those wonderful baked goods recipes, we could also use coconut oil as a total butter substitute as well? Sorry for wanting so much clarification . .just want to do this right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 When expressing thanks, please trim off the post you are replying to. Thanks so much! > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Why is that? It makes sense to me that you would leave the post so the person would know what subject you were thanking them about. I'm sorry - I'm new and just not very saavy when it comes to posting/format. > > > > > > Carol F. > Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS > SCD 6 years > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 > Why is that? It makes sense to me that you would leave the post so the > person would know what subject you were thanking them about. > > I'm sorry - I'm new and just not very saavy when it comes to > posting/format. In the case of such a long and detailed post, it needs to be trimmed to just include the main point of the original message. Yahoo tacks on more information and sometimes people leave that in again making for endless scrolling and wasting Yahoo space. Our guidelines were posted here just earlier and included: 5. Please trim posts appropriately. Again, this is due to the size of the group and volume of daily mail. Untrimmed posts use up our archive space more quickly. > > Carol F. Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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