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I am still nursing, and starting taking a DHA supplement from Nordic

Naturals a few weeks ago. I don't think that it has done anything for

Mark's eczema. Maybe he needs the EPA for the eczema. Can you tell me how

much EPA and DHA are in 1/2 tsp. of his fish oil? He is pretty much grains

free since the whole family is scd. The only time we go off of it is when

we're eating at someone else's home. It's too much work to pack up food for

five of us, so we just pack food for iel. Are the juiced carrots for

you, or was the baby also drinking the juice? How do you get the baby to

take the fish oil? Do you just squirt it into his mouth, or mix it with

something? Thanks for any answer you can help me with.

Meleah

Supplements etc

>>

>>

>> > I've been noticing the illegal & legal supplement list. I haven't

>> > gone through everything yet, but I noticed Brainchild is

> illegal. We

>> > use the II unflavored minerals & vitamins & have quite a bit

> stored

>> > right now that was very expensive. Is it that bad to use & what

> is

>> > wrong with it? It will take us a while to finish it & it was so

> $$ I

>> > can't just not use it.

>> >

>> > I didn't notice the Kirkman's milk thistle on either list, is it

>> > allowed?

>> >

>> > What about Transfer Factor? This has been so beneficial to all of

>> > us, especially the baby, that I can't imagine not using it. The

> baby

>> > was getting horribly ill & this improved his health markedly.

>> >

>> > Also, we use a mint flavored CLO from Green Pastures (there are

>> > other flavors). Is this going to be allowed? My autistic son does

>> > not get it but 3 of us do; it made an incredible healing

> difference

>> > in the baby's eczema.

>> >

>> > My 2nd son gets Coremega which I noticed is illegal. His Spectrum

>> > Complete is illegal too, as is my daughters Kirkman's chewables.

>> >

>> > What EFAs do you all use?

>> >

>> > What multi's do you all use? It's been *very* difficult finding a

>> > multi for my 2nd & 3rd child (I don't use Brainchild for them;

> too

>> > $$).

>> >

>> > Also, my daughter is almost impossible to get vits into, but if

> she

>> > doesn't get them she is weaker & gets sick easier ( & passes it

>> > along). She does not like nut milks. I just started mixing her

> vits

>> > in a little bit of natural juice mix & she's drinking it right

> down.

>> > If I have to stop that I don't know how to get them into her. I

>> > noticed apple juice is not legal, but some other juices are. It's

>> > kind of a tropical juice mix by Ceres that I've been using. Most

>> > juices have some apple juice in them; it's the last ingredient

> along

>> > with pear juice in this one. Is this acceptable or not for the

>> > little she gets everyday?

>> >

>> > My son drinks almond milk, but unfortunately it's the boxed kind

>> > (Pacific). I'm not really sure I'm up to making almond milk; he

>> > drinks so little too. Sometimes he uses it in cereal.

>> >

>> > The baby ( & everyone but me) is getting ProBio Gold. I assume the

>> > inulin free is okay?

>> >

>> > I noticed Sacc B is not okay, & the baby is getting that too. It

>> > seems to have helped him & I'm concerned he'll have issues if I

> take

>> > it away.

>> >

>> > Another topic: He's not really eating much yet & is such a

> sensitive

>> > allergy kiddo. Has anyone implemented SCD on a baby just starting

>> > solids?

>> >

>> > Sorry for the multitude of questions; I'm trying not to be

>> > overwhelming or too overwhelmed! I just want to know what's

> coming.

>> > Perhaps I can do this in stages, but as we run out of certain

> vits,

>> > I can start replacing them if I have good alternatives.

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Michele

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book

>> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

>> > websites:

>> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> > and

>> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >

>> >

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What is CLA The baby rarely gets dairy, and wasn't getting any dairy when

the problem began. Now that we only use fluid milk for making yogurt, I

rarely consume dairy. We do eat eggs though. Could this be the problem?

Meleah

Re: Supplements etc; eczema

> To eradicate eczema in my baby, I had to completely remove all dairy

> (from both his diet and mine since I'm breastfeeding), and I had to

> give him 1/2 tsp of CLO daily. That cleared the eczema in about a

> week, and reduced his cradle cap over the next couple months to almost

> nothing.

>

> Before that, we were topically " treating " the eczema by rubbing his

> skin with A & D diaper ointment every morning and evening. This worked

> surprisingly well, but of course the eczema always came back because

> we hadn't yet addressed the underlying cause.

>

>

> mom to , 14 mths, ASD

> SCD 2 wks

>

>

>>

>> ,

>> I am still nursing, and starting taking a DHA supplement from Nordic

>> Naturals a few weeks ago. I don't think that it has done anything

> for

>> Mark's eczema. Maybe he needs the EPA for the eczema. Can you tell

> me how

>> much EPA and DHA are in 1/2 tsp. of his fish oil? He is pretty much

> grains

>> free since the whole family is scd. The only time we go off of it

> is when

>> we're eating at someone else's home. It's too much work to pack up

> food for

>> five of us, so we just pack food for iel. Are the juiced

> carrots for

>> you, or was the baby also drinking the juice? How do you get the

> baby to

>> take the fish oil? Do you just squirt it into his mouth, or mix it

> with

>> something? Thanks for any answer you can help me with.

>> Meleah

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Did you mean to ask " What is CLO? " ?

CLO is Cod Liver Oil.

Patti

Re: Supplements etc; eczema

> To eradicate eczema in my baby, I had to completely remove all dairy

> (from both his diet and mine since I'm breastfeeding), and I had to

> give him 1/2 tsp of CLO daily. That cleared the eczema in about a

> week, and reduced his cradle cap over the next couple months to almost

> nothing.

>

> Before that, we were topically " treating " the eczema by rubbing his

> skin with A & D diaper ointment every morning and evening. This worked

> surprisingly well, but of course the eczema always came back because

> we hadn't yet addressed the underlying cause.

>

>

> mom to , 14 mths, ASD

> SCD 2 wks

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>

>

> > To eradicate eczema in my baby, I had to completely remove all dairy

> > (from both his diet and mine since I'm breastfeeding), and I had to

> > give him 1/2 tsp of CLO daily. That cleared the eczema in about a

> > week, and reduced his cradle cap over the next couple months to almost

> > nothing.

> >

> > Before that, we were topically " treating " the eczema by rubbing his

> > skin with A & D diaper ointment every morning and evening. This worked

> > surprisingly well, but of course the eczema always came back because

> > we hadn't yet addressed the underlying cause.

> >

> >

> > mom to , 14 mths, ASD

> > SCD 2 wks

>

>

>

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Mark is 15 months. The eczema started in early April, or maybe late

March. I was drinking probably 8 oz. of milk a day...I always have...and

was consuming other dairy(cheese, ice cream, ect.) on a regular basis. I

also had always been eating things with eggs in them(muffins, pancakes,

ect.) but rarely ate eggs themselves. It might have been around the same

time that the eczema started that I started eating eggs for breakfast, but I

just don't remember. He never had dairy before his first birthday, so it

wouldn't have been the cause. He has been breast fed from birth, and is

still nursing regularly(4x per day). I just can't figure this out. He's

totally healthy otherwise...at least it appears so. I guess that I'm

speaking in the " normal world " terms. SCD has shown me that many people

think that they're healthy, but they really have a whole lot of issue that

they don't even know about. So, maybe an EFA is the key for getting rid of

this eczema. Any other thought?

Meleah

Re: Supplements etc; eczema

> Unfortunately what we found is that we had to cut out ALL sources of

> the dairy protein, casein, not just obvious things like milk/cheese

> etc. For us, not even goat yogurt is a possibility. My kiddo has all

> sorts of problems from any source of casein (other than breastmilk) --

> ear infections, spaciness, eczema, constant illness, and just a

> worsening of his autism in general. But that's just us, not all kids

> are quite *that* sensitive to dairy. How old is your baby, out of

> curiousity, and when did the eczema start? Is he or she breastfed?

>

> Eggs could be a problem if the baby is sensitive to them -- they are a

> very common allergen -- but I'm not aware of a connection between eggs

> and eczema as that wasn't a problem for us. You could always cut eggs

> for two weeks and see if you notice any improvements.

>

>

> mom to , 14 mths, ASD

> SCD 2 wks

>

>

>> >>

>> >> ,

>> >> I am still nursing, and starting taking a DHA supplement from Nordic

>> >> Naturals a few weeks ago. I don't think that it has done anything

>> > for

>> >> Mark's eczema. Maybe he needs the EPA for the eczema. Can you tell

>> > me how

>> >> much EPA and DHA are in 1/2 tsp. of his fish oil? He is pretty much

>> > grains

>> >> free since the whole family is scd. The only time we go off of it

>> > is when

>> >> we're eating at someone else's home. It's too much work to pack up

>> > food for

>> >> five of us, so we just pack food for iel. Are the juiced

>> > carrots for

>> >> you, or was the baby also drinking the juice? How do you get the

>> > baby to

>> >> take the fish oil? Do you just squirt it into his mouth, or mix it

>> > with

>> >> something? Thanks for any answer you can help me with.

>> >> Meleah

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

> book

>> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

>> > websites:

>> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> > and

>> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >

>> >

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Creams, lotions, and anything else that isn't consumed doesn't have to be

legla, so I'll check out this link for what you use. I definitely am going

to start mark on fish oil tomorrow. How long before you started seeing

results with that? If I don't see the eczema clearing up, then I guess he

and I will both cut out dairy and eggs to see if that's the problem. We've

already cut the grains. Boy, he won't be happy about the eggs going if that

has to be tried.

Meleah

Supplements etc

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> > I've been noticing the illegal & legal supplement list. I

> haven't

>> >> > gone through everything yet, but I noticed Brainchild is

>> > illegal. We

>> >> > use the II unflavored minerals & vitamins & have quite a bit

>> > stored

>> >> > right now that was very expensive. Is it that bad to use &

> what

>> > is

>> >> > wrong with it? It will take us a while to finish it & it was

> so

>> > $$ I

>> >> > can't just not use it.

>> >> >

>> >> > I didn't notice the Kirkman's milk thistle on either list, is

> it

>> >> > allowed?

>> >> >

>> >> > What about Transfer Factor? This has been so beneficial to

> all of

>> >> > us, especially the baby, that I can't imagine not using it.

> The

>> > baby

>> >> > was getting horribly ill & this improved his health markedly.

>> >> >

>> >> > Also, we use a mint flavored CLO from Green Pastures (there

> are

>> >> > other flavors). Is this going to be allowed? My autistic son

> does

>> >> > not get it but 3 of us do; it made an incredible healing

>> > difference

>> >> > in the baby's eczema.

>> >> >

>> >> > My 2nd son gets Coremega which I noticed is illegal. His

> Spectrum

>> >> > Complete is illegal too, as is my daughters Kirkman's

> chewables.

>> >> >

>> >> > What EFAs do you all use?

>> >> >

>> >> > What multi's do you all use? It's been *very* difficult

> finding a

>> >> > multi for my 2nd & 3rd child (I don't use Brainchild for them;

>> > too

>> >> > $$).

>> >> >

>> >> > Also, my daughter is almost impossible to get vits into, but

> if

>> > she

>> >> > doesn't get them she is weaker & gets sick easier ( & passes it

>> >> > along). She does not like nut milks. I just started mixing her

>> > vits

>> >> > in a little bit of natural juice mix & she's drinking it right

>> > down.

>> >> > If I have to stop that I don't know how to get them into her.

> I

>> >> > noticed apple juice is not legal, but some other juices are.

> It's

>> >> > kind of a tropical juice mix by Ceres that I've been using.

> Most

>> >> > juices have some apple juice in them; it's the last ingredient

>> > along

>> >> > with pear juice in this one. Is this acceptable or not for the

>> >> > little she gets everyday?

>> >> >

>> >> > My son drinks almond milk, but unfortunately it's the boxed

> kind

>> >> > (Pacific). I'm not really sure I'm up to making almond milk;

> he

>> >> > drinks so little too. Sometimes he uses it in cereal.

>> >> >

>> >> > The baby ( & everyone but me) is getting ProBio Gold. I assume

> the

>> >> > inulin free is okay?

>> >> >

>> >> > I noticed Sacc B is not okay, & the baby is getting that too.

> It

>> >> > seems to have helped him & I'm concerned he'll have issues if

> I

>> > take

>> >> > it away.

>> >> >

>> >> > Another topic: He's not really eating much yet & is such a

>> > sensitive

>> >> > allergy kiddo. Has anyone implemented SCD on a baby just

> starting

>> >> > solids?

>> >> >

>> >> > Sorry for the multitude of questions; I'm trying not to be

>> >> > overwhelming or too overwhelmed! I just want to know what's

>> > coming.

>> >> > Perhaps I can do this in stages, but as we run out of certain

>> > vits,

>> >> > I can start replacing them if I have good alternatives.

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks,

>> >> > Michele

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

>> > the book

>> >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

> the

>> > following

>> >> > websites:

>> >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> >> > and

>> >> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >> >

>> >> >

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First of all.... I need to remind all of you to please remember to trim your

posts. Sometimes you might reply to a LONG string of other replies... when you

don't need to leave all that hanging on to the bottom of your message. This

really CLOGS up the digest for those list members that get the list in that

form... so PLEASE TRIM!!! (If you don't know how, just write to me off list...

durovchic@... ).

Secondly....Michele, I'm getting a little bit confused here because you are

listing some supps that are illegal on SCD. Are you giving these to one of your

kids that is NOT on SCD?? This can be a bit confusing for some of the other list

members with a list this big (2500+), so I need to be clear that the following

are illegal:

<<ProBio Gold>> (contains inulin)

<<BarleyMax green supplement>>

If you guys are conversing mainly about eczema, and are referring to some of

your kids who are not on SCD, then please continue the discussion off list. I

know it's a big concern, but it's sort of drifting off topic. Thanks! :)

Patti

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