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First off, let me ask you about what you're giving your baby for the eczema.

My 1yr. old battled with it on his feet for months now. The only way I can

get rid of it is with a prescription topical cream, but I have tried

anything else except lots of lotion. Now, on to the couple of questions

that I can answer for you. I can't advise you on how bad it would be to use

up the Brain Child supplements that you have since we've only been scd for

about 3 1/2 months now. What I would say is this. Call them, and explain

the situation. Many places will allow you to return the supplements if

you're not satisfied. You'd have to pay for the shipping to return them,

but that probably wouldn't be so bad. Personally, we use Nordic Naturals

for our EFA, and I know that a fair number of others do as well. Also, the

Kirkman probiotic that you're using right now isn't legal. Check the legal

list again. I know that they do have a legal one. I just don't remember it

right now. Finally, you can use apple cide, but not apple juice. With fall

coming up, that's probably going to be fairly easy to get from somewhere

near you. Don't forget that you can stock up on that in your freezer.

Also, we use Welch's 100% white and purple grape juices. That's what I mix

my son's supplements into every day...even the fish oil...and he can't even

tell. I hope that this helps. I can tell you that there are several people

on this list who have a wealth of knowledge.

Meleah

scd 05/06

iel 3yrs., asd Ethan 5yrs., Mark 1yr.

Supplements etc

> I've been noticing the illegal & legal supplement list. I haven't

> gone through everything yet, but I noticed Brainchild is illegal. We

> use the II unflavored minerals & vitamins & have quite a bit stored

> right now that was very expensive. Is it that bad to use & what is

> wrong with it? It will take us a while to finish it & it was so $$ I

> can't just not use it.

>

> I didn't notice the Kirkman's milk thistle on either list, is it

> allowed?

>

> What about Transfer Factor? This has been so beneficial to all of

> us, especially the baby, that I can't imagine not using it. The baby

> was getting horribly ill & this improved his health markedly.

>

> Also, we use a mint flavored CLO from Green Pastures (there are

> other flavors). Is this going to be allowed? My autistic son does

> not get it but 3 of us do; it made an incredible healing difference

> in the baby's eczema.

>

> My 2nd son gets Coremega which I noticed is illegal. His Spectrum

> Complete is illegal too, as is my daughters Kirkman's chewables.

>

> What EFAs do you all use?

>

> What multi's do you all use? It's been *very* difficult finding a

> multi for my 2nd & 3rd child (I don't use Brainchild for them; too

> $$).

>

> Also, my daughter is almost impossible to get vits into, but if she

> doesn't get them she is weaker & gets sick easier ( & passes it

> along). She does not like nut milks. I just started mixing her vits

> in a little bit of natural juice mix & she's drinking it right down.

> If I have to stop that I don't know how to get them into her. I

> noticed apple juice is not legal, but some other juices are. It's

> kind of a tropical juice mix by Ceres that I've been using. Most

> juices have some apple juice in them; it's the last ingredient along

> with pear juice in this one. Is this acceptable or not for the

> little she gets everyday?

>

> My son drinks almond milk, but unfortunately it's the boxed kind

> (Pacific). I'm not really sure I'm up to making almond milk; he

> drinks so little too. Sometimes he uses it in cereal.

>

> The baby ( & everyone but me) is getting ProBio Gold. I assume the

> inulin free is okay?

>

> I noticed Sacc B is not okay, & the baby is getting that too. It

> seems to have helped him & I'm concerned he'll have issues if I take

> it away.

>

> Another topic: He's not really eating much yet & is such a sensitive

> allergy kiddo. Has anyone implemented SCD on a baby just starting

> solids?

>

> Sorry for the multitude of questions; I'm trying not to be

> overwhelming or too overwhelmed! I just want to know what's coming.

> Perhaps I can do this in stages, but as we run out of certain vits,

> I can start replacing them if I have good alternatives.

>

> Thanks,

> Michele

>

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>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

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Michele,

Take a breath! :)

Not all the Brainchild formulas are illegal.

Is what you have any of these?:

<< Spectrum Support Ultra-Sensitive Formula

NightCal (flavored and unflavored)

LiquiZinc (flavored and unflavored) >>

If so, they are listed on the pecanbread.com website as LEGAL.

As for the other supplements you want to use, just check that " Supplements "

section on the website... they list all kinds of legal and illegal supplement

additives, so you can read the labels and check them yourself to determine

illegal starches and fillers. I think milk thistle is fine, as long as there's

nothing added. Check the additives list.

Transfer factor.... I honestly don't know. Have not used it. I don't know about

the CLO you're using. It would depend on if there was any other additive... and

what exactly they use for the mint flavoring. Some of the flavored CLOs are

okay, so it might be fine.

There are many legal supplements listed there... so hopefully you can find some

that will be good substitutes for what you're using now. Legal Kirkman products

I see there include CLOs, EFAs, and various other multiples and minerals, etc,

etc.

The " juice mix " you're using now is definitely not okay. You can open capsules

or grind up tablets and mix them into homemade applesauce or pearsauce... or any

of the legal juices. I have to do that with any medication or supplement my

daughter takes. Some of the legal Kirkman multiples come in very small

capsules...so it's a very small amount to have to mix in, and they don't have an

overly strong taste.

You typed:

<<My son drinks almond milk, but unfortunately it's the boxed kind

(Pacific). I'm not really sure I'm up to making almond milk; he

drinks so little too. Sometimes he uses it in cereal.>>

There is no legal commercial nut milk. Sorry. Making your own is really, REALLY

easy.... especially if he uses very little of it.

<<I noticed Sacc B is not okay, & the baby is getting that too. It

seems to have helped him & I'm concerned he'll have issues if I take

it away. >>

s.boulardii IS legal now.... although some areas on the BTVC website state

otherwise, it just hasn't been updated yet. We've confirmed that Elaine said

it's fine to use.

<<Another topic: He's not really eating much yet & is such a sensitive

allergy kiddo. Has anyone implemented SCD on a baby just starting

solids? >>

If you are nursing, you may need to be on SCD also.

Patti

Supplements etc

I've been noticing the illegal & legal supplement list. I haven't

gone through everything yet, but I noticed Brainchild is illegal. We

use the II unflavored minerals & vitamins & have quite a bit stored

right now that was very expensive. Is it that bad to use & what is

wrong with it? It will take us a while to finish it & it was so $$ I

can't just not use it.

I didn't notice the Kirkman's milk thistle on either list, is it

allowed?

What about Transfer Factor? This has been so beneficial to all of

us, especially the baby, that I can't imagine not using it. The baby

was getting horribly ill & this improved his health markedly.

Also, we use a mint flavored CLO from Green Pastures (there are

other flavors). Is this going to be allowed? My autistic son does

not get it but 3 of us do; it made an incredible healing difference

in the baby's eczema.

My 2nd son gets Coremega which I noticed is illegal. His Spectrum

Complete is illegal too, as is my daughters Kirkman's chewables.

What EFAs do you all use?

What multi's do you all use? It's been *very* difficult finding a

multi for my 2nd & 3rd child (I don't use Brainchild for them; too

$$).

Also, my daughter is almost impossible to get vits into, but if she

doesn't get them she is weaker & gets sick easier ( & passes it

along). She does not like nut milks. I just started mixing her vits

in a little bit of natural juice mix & she's drinking it right down.

If I have to stop that I don't know how to get them into her. I

noticed apple juice is not legal, but some other juices are. It's

kind of a tropical juice mix by Ceres that I've been using. Most

juices have some apple juice in them; it's the last ingredient along

with pear juice in this one. Is this acceptable or not for the

little she gets everyday?

My son drinks almond milk, but unfortunately it's the boxed kind

(Pacific). I'm not really sure I'm up to making almond milk; he

drinks so little too. Sometimes he uses it in cereal.

The baby ( & everyone but me) is getting ProBio Gold. I assume the

inulin free is okay?

I noticed Sacc B is not okay, & the baby is getting that too. It

seems to have helped him & I'm concerned he'll have issues if I take

it away.

Another topic: He's not really eating much yet & is such a sensitive

allergy kiddo. Has anyone implemented SCD on a baby just starting

solids?

Sorry for the multitude of questions; I'm trying not to be

overwhelming or too overwhelmed! I just want to know what's coming.

Perhaps I can do this in stages, but as we run out of certain vits,

I can start replacing them if I have good alternatives.

Thanks,

Michele

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> Michele,

>

> Take a breath! :)

>

> Not all the Brainchild formulas are illegal.

>

> Is what you have any of these?:

>

> << Spectrum Support Ultra-Sensitive Formula

> NightCal (flavored and unflavored)

> LiquiZinc (flavored and unflavored) >>

We have the zinc, which I know is fine. But the minerals & vits are

neither of those. I really have to use them up.

After that I can switch but don't know to what. I sthe Spectrum

Support a multi of vits & minerals?

>

> If so, they are listed on the pecanbread.com website as LEGAL.

>

> As for the other supplements you want to use, just check

that " Supplements " section on the website... they list all kinds of

legal and illegal supplement additives, so you can read the labels

and check them yourself to determine illegal starches and fillers. I

think milk thistle is fine, as long as there's nothing added. Check

the additives list.

>

> Transfer factor.... I honestly don't know. Have not used it. I

don't know about the CLO you're using. It would depend on if there

was any other additive... and what exactly they use for the mint

flavoring. Some of the flavored CLOs are okay, so it might be fine.

>

> There are many legal supplements listed there... so hopefully you

can find some that will be good substitutes for what you're using

now. Legal Kirkman products I see there include CLOs, EFAs, and

various other multiples and minerals, etc, etc.

>

> The " juice mix " you're using now is definitely not okay. You can

open capsules or grind up tablets and mix them into homemade

applesauce or pearsauce... or any of the legal juices. I have to do

that with any medication or supplement my daughter takes. Some of

the legal Kirkman multiples come in very small capsules...so it's a

very small amount to have to mix in, and they don't have an overly

strong taste.

>

> You typed:

>

> <<My son drinks almond milk, but unfortunately it's the boxed kind

> (Pacific). I'm not really sure I'm up to making almond milk; he

> drinks so little too. Sometimes he uses it in cereal.>>

> There is no legal commercial nut milk. Sorry. Making your own is

really, REALLY easy.... especially if he uses very little of it.

I noticed that; I'm going to have to try that. I tried making nut

milk years & years ago & it was horrid. But maybe I can do better

now with " tech " support LOL.

>

> <<I noticed Sacc B is not okay, & the baby is getting that too. It

> seems to have helped him & I'm concerned he'll have issues if I

take

> it away. >>

>

> s.boulardii IS legal now.... although some areas on the BTVC

website state otherwise, it just hasn't been updated yet. We've

confirmed that Elaine said it's fine to use.

Great; that's a relief.

>

> <<Another topic: He's not really eating much yet & is such a

sensitive

> allergy kiddo. Has anyone implemented SCD on a baby just starting

> solids? >>

>

> If you are nursing, you may need to be on SCD also.

>

>

> Patti

I'm almost on it already; my diet is very similar. I have no grains

or dairy in my diet as of now. Lots of raw fruits though. He is

starting to eat more solids (he is 1) & I have to figure out how to

feed him. I'd like to just do SCD from the start with him.

Thanks!

Michele

> Supplements etc

>

>

> I've been noticing the illegal & legal supplement list. I

haven't

> gone through everything yet, but I noticed Brainchild is

illegal. We

> use the II unflavored minerals & vitamins & have quite a bit

stored

> right now that was very expensive. Is it that bad to use & what

is

> wrong with it? It will take us a while to finish it & it was so

$$ I

> can't just not use it.

>

> I didn't notice the Kirkman's milk thistle on either list, is it

> allowed?

>

> What about Transfer Factor? This has been so beneficial to all

of

> us, especially the baby, that I can't imagine not using it. The

baby

> was getting horribly ill & this improved his health markedly.

>

> Also, we use a mint flavored CLO from Green Pastures (there are

> other flavors). Is this going to be allowed? My autistic son

does

> not get it but 3 of us do; it made an incredible healing

difference

> in the baby's eczema.

>

> My 2nd son gets Coremega which I noticed is illegal. His

Spectrum

> Complete is illegal too, as is my daughters Kirkman's chewables.

>

> What EFAs do you all use?

>

> What multi's do you all use? It's been *very* difficult finding

a

> multi for my 2nd & 3rd child (I don't use Brainchild for them;

too

> $$).

>

> Also, my daughter is almost impossible to get vits into, but if

she

> doesn't get them she is weaker & gets sick easier ( & passes it

> along). She does not like nut milks. I just started mixing her

vits

> in a little bit of natural juice mix & she's drinking it right

down.

> If I have to stop that I don't know how to get them into her. I

> noticed apple juice is not legal, but some other juices are.

It's

> kind of a tropical juice mix by Ceres that I've been using. Most

> juices have some apple juice in them; it's the last ingredient

along

> with pear juice in this one. Is this acceptable or not for the

> little she gets everyday?

>

> My son drinks almond milk, but unfortunately it's the boxed kind

> (Pacific). I'm not really sure I'm up to making almond milk; he

> drinks so little too. Sometimes he uses it in cereal.

>

> The baby ( & everyone but me) is getting ProBio Gold. I assume

the

> inulin free is okay?

>

> I noticed Sacc B is not okay, & the baby is getting that too. It

> seems to have helped him & I'm concerned he'll have issues if I

take

> it away.

>

> Another topic: He's not really eating much yet & is such a

sensitive

> allergy kiddo. Has anyone implemented SCD on a baby just

starting

> solids?

>

> Sorry for the multitude of questions; I'm trying not to be

> overwhelming or too overwhelmed! I just want to know what's

coming.

> Perhaps I can do this in stages, but as we run out of certain

vits,

> I can start replacing them if I have good alternatives.

>

> Thanks,

> Michele

>

>

>

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<<We have the zinc, which I know is fine. But the minerals & vits are

neither of those. I really have to use them up.>>

Well, if you can't swap them for the legal ones, I guess I would use them up,

too... if I were you.

<<After that I can switch but don't know to what. Is the Spectrum

Support a multi of vits & minerals?>>

I honestly don't know.... check Brainchild's website.

www.brainchildnutritionals.com . I'm wondering... I know you said you bought

them through your local doctor, and can't return them... but I'm just wondering

if you could contact Brainchild directly and possibly swap any sealed bottles,

as long as the date is not up and you paid the shipping?

Patti

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