Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 Thanks for voicing it. We all know JUST what you mean. Judith in Seattle A little funny > Ha! > > I was standing in the kitchen, gazing out the window, when I realized > there seemed to be a lot of junk on top the refrigerator -- you know, > one of those moments when you just suddenly notice something for no > apparent reason. And as I looked at it, I realized the junk included a > pack of 5 of 6 pecan twirl rolls. I ate one the other day. ONE. > > ONE roll, not one pack. ONE. > > And I forgot about them. And there they sat. And because I saw them > today, I ate another one. One. > > Is anybody getting how totally unreal this is? 3 months ago, pre-MGB, I > could *easily* have eaten all six of those on the way home from the > grocery. And you could forget any question about them just sitting > somewhere forgotten -- it would never have happened before. > > I didn't ignore them on purpose. This is how food is now. Wow. Just > wow. > > There are also some 6 packs of cheese and crackers and a box of animal > crackers just sitting up there, too. And I have more than half a bag of > Famous Amos Chocolate Chip cookies sitting in the cabinet, not calling > my name, either. And nearly a whole bag of Fritos. It's *ALL* there -- > snacks for the Gods, and I'm not even interested. > > Is this unreal or what? > > Kind regards, > > > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 Well, I'm just over 3 months and it is just now getting to that point for me. Up until now, I've done a lot of what I'd call frantic eating, some of it head hunger, some of it that little spiteful person that always sabotaged my diets ( " EAT! Everybody else does, why can't you??! " ). I would get things to eat, just to eat them, just to see if I could eat them, or, as the little demon sprouted horns, " BECAUSE I CAN!!! " Well, okay, I've proved all that to my satisfaction now and food is becoming b-o-r-i-n-g. Yes, you heard that right. I never would have believed it, either. Never. The thing that worried me the *most* before surgery was hearing someone say how they " got full so easy now, " and " stopped eating when they got full. " Well, I *rarely* ever ate because I was " hungry, " before, I ate because I wasn't full. And I didn't stop eating because I was " full, " I stopped because the food was gone, or nothing else looked good -- full wasn't usually part of the system. So when people would tell me that they " felt full " after the MGB, my reaction was, " SO??? That never stopped me before. . . " So I worried that the MGB wouldn't work for me. And I can say: IT WORKS. I feel my stomach like I *never* did before. I get hungry like a starving person -- really strong hunger pains. And when I am full, food looks positively nauseating. There's not the least bit of desire to eat after I get full, and I *do* feel full!! I can *feel* it. Silently, inside myself, I celebrate that one little thing every day, several times a day -- I feel *HUNGRY.* I feel *FULL*. (The novelty hasn't worn off yet, can you tell? lol!) Kind regards, M. Darrow wrote: > > Oh man , > As I sit here at my desk in my home office, waiting to do the dance, I am listening to all the food in the kitchen calling my name. I just had a conversation with my husband this morning about how food calls out to both of us. I can't wait to get to that place you describe. I've only experienced it one time - when I was on fen-phen, but that made me so crazy no one wanted to be around me. I can't wait get to the other side - to the place my brain and stomach no longer hear the food's seduct > > - waiting in Chicago > > A little funny > > Ha! > > I was standing in the kitchen, gazing out the window, when I realized > there seemed to be a lot of junk on top the refrigerator -- you know, > one of those moments when you just suddenly notice something for no > apparent reason. And as I looked at it, I realized the junk included a > pack of 5 of 6 pecan twirl rolls. I ate one the other day. ONE. > > ONE roll, not one pack. ONE. > > And I forgot about them. And there they sat. And because I saw them > today, I ate another one. One. > > Is anybody getting how totally unreal this is? 3 months ago, pre-MGB, I > could *easily* have eaten all six of those on the way home from the > grocery. And you could forget any question about them just sitting > somewhere forgotten -- it would never have happened before. > > I didn't ignore them on purpose. This is how food is now. Wow. Just > wow. > > There are also some 6 packs of cheese and crackers and a box of animal > crackers just sitting up there, too. And I have more than half a bag of > Famous Amos Chocolate Chip cookies sitting in the cabinet, not calling > my name, either. And nearly a whole bag of Fritos. It's *ALL* there -- > snacks for the Gods, and I'm not even interested. > > Is this unreal or what? > > Kind regards, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 1. You need to fix whatever you are using to send messages because your messages are not " wordwrapping " and they come through as one really Loooooooooooooooong line. If you are sending from one-list, I think it's in the bottom left hand corner when you are composing, check " word wrap. " 2. Did I test the limits of my new stomach? Oh yes, you betcha. Wanna know what happens? You THROW UP. Even a slow study like me gets the idea after awhile. M. Darrow wrote: > > , During the last 3 months, as you tested your limits and gave into that little demon, did you push the limits of your new small stomach? I never eat a hugh meal till I'm well past full, but I will graze and eat all day long, even though there is no hunger and I really don't feel any physical need for food. But even though I've gotten sick to my stomach a lot in the past (a bad gallbladder) I have never eaten so much that I had to vomit. At the beginning, did you have trouble figuring out just how much the new stomach could hold and/or did you get sick often? I'm not a wimp about throwing up - but I want to be a quick learner and be able to make sure I don't push the limits on the quantity to eat. By the way, have you had any dumping with the sugary stuff you've eaten - pecan twirl rolls and previously little donuts? > > > - waiting in Chicago > > A little funny > > > > Ha! > > > > I was standing in the kitchen, gazing out the window, when I realized > > there seemed to be a lot of junk on top the refrigerator -- you know, > > one of those moments when you just suddenly notice something for no > > apparent reason. And as I looked at it, I realized the junk included a > > pack of 5 of 6 pecan twirl rolls. I ate one the other day. ONE. > > > > ONE roll, not one pack. ONE. > > > > And I forgot about them. And there they sat. And because I saw them > > today, I ate another one. One. > > > > Is anybody getting how totally unreal this is? 3 months ago, pre-MGB, I > > could *easily* have eaten all six of those on the way home from the > > grocery. And you could forget any question about them just sitting > > somewhere forgotten -- it would never have happened before. > > > > I didn't ignore them on purpose. This is how food is now. Wow. Just > > wow. > > > > There are also some 6 packs of cheese and crackers and a box of animal > > crackers just sitting up there, too. And I have more than half a bag of > > Famous Amos Chocolate Chip cookies sitting in the cabinet, not calling > > my name, either. And nearly a whole bag of Fritos. It's *ALL* there -- > > snacks for the Gods, and I'm not even interested. > > > > Is this unreal or what? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 Sorry, I missed the rest of your question. If you overeat, you will throw up. To me, this is the fastest and simplest way to learn the limits of your stomach. Obviously, there are different types of learners, because I cannot understand the people (like you -- and my friend Lori is another one) who " don't want to have to throw up to learn the limits of the stomach. " I'm the exact opposite -- I need to *know* the *precise* limit and if that means throwing up, so be it. Lori has never thrown up, ever. I don't know how she knows the limits of her stomach and I will tell you she can pack the food away. Me, on the other hand, I've urped a many a time and 99.99% of the time it has been from eating too fast (I've gotten *much* better about that, but I needed the throwing up to teach me) or, too much. Throwing up doesn't bother me. I'm usually really glad by the time I do it, too (the alternative -- nauseatingly full stomach -- is worse). It isn't like throwing up was before surgery -- not nasty tasting and not painful or difficult. I get dumping from some sweet things but not all. Ice cream makes me want to die. But the occasional cinnamon roll or 4-5 cookies, no problem. wrote: > > 1. You need to fix whatever you are using to send messages because your > messages are not " wordwrapping " and they come through as one really > Loooooooooooooooong line. If you are sending from one-list, I think > it's in the bottom left hand corner when you are composing, check " word > wrap. " > > 2. Did I test the limits of my new stomach? Oh yes, you betcha. Wanna > know what happens? You THROW UP. Even a slow study like me gets the > idea after awhile. > > > > M. Darrow wrote: > > > > , > > During the last 3 months, as you tested your limits and gave into that > little demon, did you push the limits of your new small stomach? I > never eat a hugh meal till I'm well past full, but I will graze and eat > all day long, even though there is no hunger and I really don't feel any > physical need for food. But even though I've gotten sick to my stomach > a lot in the past (a bad gallbladder) I have never eaten so much that I > had to vomit. At the beginning, did you have trouble figuring out just > how much the new stomach could hold and/or did you get sick often? I'm > not a wimp about throwing up - but I want to be a quick learner and be > able to make sure I don't push the limits on the quantity to eat. By > the way, have you had any dumping with the sugary stuff you've eaten - > pecan twirl rolls and previously little donuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 , Let me know if this message wraps correctly. I am using Outlook Express and having the MGB list messages send here. I had a setting set to HTML format instead of plain text. I changed the option and set the wrap at 50 characters. Hope this helps. I'm not really afraid of throwing up - it really wouldn't bother me all that much. My husband laughed at me last week because right after I had eaten, the dog threw up and I immediately threw up too. (I used to do that all the time when my kids were little.) I have also hear from other post ops that throwing up is totally different than before. So if I do push the limits, I guess I will learn just like you. I am also a really fast eater right now, so I know that will take some practice to slow down. It's nice to know that not all sweets will necessarily cause dumping - but I've also heard that its different for everyone. I sure hope I get to the point of being able to test my limits soon! Thanks for all your wonderful postings and expecially for your Web site. The pictures are really insirational. - waiting in Chicago Re: A little funny Sorry, I missed the rest of your question. If you overeat, you will throw up. To me, this is the fastest and simplest way to learn the limits of your stomach. Obviously, there are different types of learners, because I cannot understand the people (like you -- and my friend Lori is another one) who " don't want to have to throw up to learn the limits of the stomach. " I'm the exact opposite -- I need to *know* the *precise* limit and if that means throwing up, so be it. Lori has never thrown up, ever. I don't know how she knows the limits of her stomach and I will tell you she can pack the food away. Me, on the other hand, I've urped a many a time and 99.99% of the time it has been from eating too fast (I've gotten *much* better about that, but I needed the throwing up to teach me) or, too much. Throwing up doesn't bother me. I'm usually really glad by the time I do it, too (the alternative -- nauseatingly full stomach -- is worse). It isn't like throwing up was before surgery -- not nasty tasting and not painful or difficult. I get dumping from some sweet things but not all. Ice cream makes me want to die. But the occasional cinnamon roll or 4-5 cookies, no problem. wrote: > > 1. You need to fix whatever you are using to send messages because your > messages are not " wordwrapping " and they come through as one really > Loooooooooooooooong line. If you are sending from one-list, I think > it's in the bottom left hand corner when you are composing, check " word > wrap. " > > 2. Did I test the limits of my new stomach? Oh yes, you betcha. Wanna > know what happens? You THROW UP. Even a slow study like me gets the > idea after awhile. > > > > M. Darrow wrote: > > > > , > > During the last 3 months, as you tested your limits and gave into that > little demon, did you push the limits of your new small stomach? I > never eat a hugh meal till I'm well past full, but I will graze and eat > all day long, even though there is no hunger and I really don't feel any > physical need for food. But even though I've gotten sick to my stomach > a lot in the past (a bad gallbladder) I have never eaten so much that I > had to vomit. At the beginning, did you have trouble figuring out just > how much the new stomach could hold and/or did you get sick often? I'm > not a wimp about throwing up - but I want to be a quick learner and be > able to make sure I don't push the limits on the quantity to eat. By > the way, have you had any dumping with the sugary stuff you've eaten - > pecan twirl rolls and previously little donuts? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com Please visit our web site at http://clos.net Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 and : I too long to be 'there.' I remember my Phen-fen experience, but with fondness. What I remember is after the Phen-fen took hold I was breathing big metaphorical sighs of relief. Great big ones. After eating a bit I couldn't believe that I just wasn't interested any more. I would stare at the rest of the food on my plate and almost cry because the overwhelming emotion I had was DISINTEREST. I guess I was lucky that I wasn't on it for very long, and that it didn't make me feel any thing else. I will remember that feeling for the rest of my life, and I hope to experience it again. Soon. Judith in Seattle. A little funny > > > > Ha! > > > > I was standing in the kitchen, gazing out the window, when I realized > > there seemed to be a lot of junk on top the refrigerator -- you know, > > one of those moments when you just suddenly notice something for no > > apparent reason. And as I looked at it, I realized the junk included a > > pack of 5 of 6 pecan twirl rolls. I ate one the other day. ONE. > > > > ONE roll, not one pack. ONE. > > > > And I forgot about them. And there they sat. And because I saw them > > today, I ate another one. One. > > > > Is anybody getting how totally unreal this is? 3 months ago, pre-MGB, I > > could *easily* have eaten all six of those on the way home from the > > grocery. And you could forget any question about them just sitting > > somewhere forgotten -- it would never have happened before. > > > > I didn't ignore them on purpose. This is how food is now. Wow. Just > > wow. > > > > There are also some 6 packs of cheese and crackers and a box of animal > > crackers just sitting up there, too. And I have more than half a bag of > > Famous Amos Chocolate Chip cookies sitting in the cabinet, not calling > > my name, either. And nearly a whole bag of Fritos. It's *ALL* there -- > > snacks for the Gods, and I'm not even interested. > > > > Is this unreal or what? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 Dear , I will be 3 weeks post-op on Thursday, and I am worried that the MGB won't " work " for me (just as you worried about this). At 2 weeks post-op, I moved quickly from soft food to some solids (couldn't wait for a salad). I even ate about 2/3 of a 's jr. hamburger yesterday. The problem is, I am able to tolerate food so well that I am afraid that at some point I will just keep eating and not lose weight. At 1-1/2 weeks, I had lost 14 pounds, but I have been afraid to weigh since then. My family says that they can see a difference in my weight every several days, but I am not seeing it. Also, I am having difficulty feeling " full. " In fact, I am sometimes eating until I feel like I will throw up. I haven't thrown up, but have had some close calls - not dumping either (but then I am avoiding sugar). I really am eating less than I used to, though. I actually get tired of what I am eating before I feel satisfied. Maybe I just need to feel like I am suffering (and I am not!) in order to feel that I am losing and deserve to lose. Does that make sense? Can you relate to this? Any advice? Thanks, Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 I cant wait until that is me!!! Food calls me by name, and it even knows my nick name!!!!! It is awesome that it has forgotten your name. hugs marg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 SherryMar1@... wrote: > > Dear , > I will be 3 weeks post-op on Thursday, and I am worried that the MGB won't > " work " for me (just as you worried about this). At 2 weeks post-op, I moved > quickly from soft food to some solids (couldn't wait for a salad). I even > ate about 2/3 of a 's jr. hamburger yesterday. > > The problem is, I am able to tolerate food so well that I am afraid that at > some point I will just keep eating and not lose weight. Dr. R. didn't put you up to this, did he? (Just kidding, but he ribs me about my early comments which were almost identical to yours every time somebody else comes along and says the exact same thing, which has happened several times now). Just about everybody says the same thing at the 2-3 week mark, no kidding, Sherry -- I did, too! This surgery is a lot easier than any of us expect and afterwards, it's not nearly as hard to make the physical adjustment as we expected -- that's all there is to it! Relax and enjoy your new body that will lose weight without your help! > At 1-1/2 weeks, I > had lost 14 pounds, but I have been afraid to weigh since then. My family > says that they can see a difference in my weight every several days, but I am > not seeing it. Also, I am having difficulty feeling " full. " In fact, I am > sometimes eating until I feel like I will throw up. Your stomach will get some scar tissue in the next few weeks and you'll feel it even better than you do now and you will know for sure when you are full, really you will. In the meantime, if you feel like you need to throw up, you're full. I'm not saying that to be funny. Being full was a new experience for me and the only way I learned to know when I was full was I threw up, then I figured out to stop before I had to throw up, then I got the hang of it. > I haven't thrown up, but > have had some close calls - not dumping either (but then I am avoiding > sugar). I really am eating less than I used to, though. I actually get > tired of what I am eating before I feel satisfied. Maybe I just need to feel > like I am suffering (and I am not!) in order to feel that I am losing and > deserve to lose. Does that make sense? Can you relate to this? Any advice? You're doing fine!! It sounds *exactly* like everybody else at this stage, really!! > Thanks, Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Oh man , As I sit here at my desk in my home office, waiting to do the dance, I am listening to all the food in the kitchen calling my name. I just had a conversation with my husband this morning about how food calls out to both of us. I can't wait to get to that place you describe. I've only experienced it one time - when I was on fen-phen, but that made me so crazy no one wanted to be around me. I can't wait get to the other side - to the place my brain and stomach no longer hear the food's seductive song! - waiting in Chicago A little funny Ha! I was standing in the kitchen, gazing out the window, when I realized there seemed to be a lot of junk on top the refrigerator -- you know, one of those moments when you just suddenly notice something for no apparent reason. And as I looked at it, I realized the junk included a pack of 5 of 6 pecan twirl rolls. I ate one the other day. ONE. ONE roll, not one pack. ONE. And I forgot about them. And there they sat. And because I saw them today, I ate another one. One. Is anybody getting how totally unreal this is? 3 months ago, pre-MGB, I could *easily* have eaten all six of those on the way home from the grocery. And you could forget any question about them just sitting somewhere forgotten -- it would never have happened before. I didn't ignore them on purpose. This is how food is now. Wow. Just wow. There are also some 6 packs of cheese and crackers and a box of animal crackers just sitting up there, too. And I have more than half a bag of Famous Amos Chocolate Chip cookies sitting in the cabinet, not calling my name, either. And nearly a whole bag of Fritos. It's *ALL* there -- snacks for the Gods, and I'm not even interested. Is this unreal or what? Kind regards, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com Please visit our web site at http://clos.net Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 , During the last 3 months, as you tested your limits and gave into that little demon, did you push the limits of your new small stomach? I never eat a hugh meal till I'm well past full, but I will graze and eat all day long, even though there is no hunger and I really don't feel any physical need for food. But even though I've gotten sick to my stomach a lot in the past (a bad gallbladder) I have never eaten so much that I had to vomit. At the beginning, did you have trouble figuring out just how much the new stomach could hold and/or did you get sick often? I'm not a wimp about throwing up - but I want to be a quick learner and be able to make sure I don't push the limits on the quantity to eat. By the way, have you had any dumping with the sugary stuff you've eaten - pecan twirl rolls and previously little donuts? - waiting in Chicago A little funny > > Ha! > > I was standing in the kitchen, gazing out the window, when I realized > there seemed to be a lot of junk on top the refrigerator -- you know, > one of those moments when you just suddenly notice something for no > apparent reason. And as I looked at it, I realized the junk included a > pack of 5 of 6 pecan twirl rolls. I ate one the other day. ONE. > > ONE roll, not one pack. ONE. > > And I forgot about them. And there they sat. And because I saw them > today, I ate another one. One. > > Is anybody getting how totally unreal this is? 3 months ago, pre-MGB, I > could *easily* have eaten all six of those on the way home from the > grocery. And you could forget any question about them just sitting > somewhere forgotten -- it would never have happened before. > > I didn't ignore them on purpose. This is how food is now. Wow. Just > wow. > > There are also some 6 packs of cheese and crackers and a box of animal > crackers just sitting up there, too. And I have more than half a bag of > Famous Amos Chocolate Chip cookies sitting in the cabinet, not calling > my name, either. And nearly a whole bag of Fritos. It's *ALL* there -- > snacks for the Gods, and I'm not even interested. > > Is this unreal or what? > > Kind regards, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com Please visit our web site at http://clos.net Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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