Re: Brachy and Plagio measurements/numbers

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your help. The orthotist did the measurements by hand (with

a ruler-type thing). The band is a locally made one similar to a

Starband.

Right now, he's been out of the helmet for over a week due to a staph

infection (that is healing). We're off to the pediatrician later today

and hopefully he'll get the go-ahead to get the helmet re-adjusted and

get him back in it.

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> > > > Maybe this has been discussed before. I am wondering if

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> > repositioning

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> > > > a child with plagio can cause brachy. We noticed my son's flat

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> > spot

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> > > > at about 3 months and really started repositioning a few weeks

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> > > > later. The main changes I noticed in the 2 months we did were

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> > that

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> > > > there was less of an angle to the flat side and that he seemed

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> > to get

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> > > > flatter in back. Did repo cause that?

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> > > >

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> > > > Also, we have had great results with the Starband for the

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> > plagio:

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> > > > down from 11mm to 2mm in six weeks (we were down to 3mm in just

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> > three

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> > > > weeks!). But we just went from 91% to 90.5% cephalic index.

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> > How

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> > > > much longer will it take to get down into the mid-80's? Or will

>

> > we?

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> > > > The orthotist isn't really very concerned with the brachy--he

>

> > thinks

>

> > > > it will resolve itself over time. Is that true? 's head

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> > isn't

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> > > > really flat on back, it just has a kind of round rather than

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> > oblong

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> > > > shape. I should really post some pics! I can't post " before "

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> > pics

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> > > > because the correction was so quick I didn't get around to

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> > taking any.

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> > > >

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> > > > Thanks!

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> > > >

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> > > >

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> > > > in Starband since 01/05/09

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> > > > Kansas

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> > For more plagio info, go to www.plagiocephaly. org/support

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> >

[Guest guest]

I just posted a picture of Judah from overhead. Does it look like

brachy also?

Thanks!

> > From: mwschizer <mwschizer@>

> > Subject: Brachy and Plagio measurements/numbers

> > Plagiocephaly

> > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:30 AM

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> > My son was diagnosed with mild/moderate plagio and no

> one mentioned

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> > brachy to us, but the numbers we got were

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> > cir. 44 mm, cranial length 14 cm, width 13.5 cm, cephalic incex 96.4,

> >

> > and 6mm. The orthotist said average is 4-5mm and recommends a band for

> >

> > 6+. Sounds like my son has brachy too--probably more severely than the

> >

> > plagio from what I'm reading here, but I hadn't heard the term from

> >

> > the neurosurgeon or the orthotist. And it looks more flat on one side

> >

> > than in the back to me...

> >

> > --Meredith

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There was another parent in this group no so long ago whose son also had a staph infection from the helmet. I remember that she had a really hard time and ended up switching to a DOC band. She has to take Angel Flights to get to her appointments.You might want to do a search for "staph infection" and see what you can read about it.LeilaMaysa, 13 months old, week 3 in DOC band 2http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/ From: mwschizer <mwschizer@...>Subject: Re: Brachy and Plagio measurements/numbersPlagiocephaly Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 10:38 AM

Thanks for your help. The orthotist did the measurements by hand (with

a ruler-type thing). The band is a locally made one similar to a

Starband.

Right now, he's been out of the helmet for over a week due to a staph

infection (that is healing). We're off to the pediatrician later today

and hopefully he'll get the go-ahead to get the helmet re-adjusted and

get him back in it.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Maybe this has been discussed before. I am wondering if

>

> > repositioning

>

> > > > a child with plagio can cause brachy. We noticed my son's flat

>

> > spot

>

> > > > at about 3 months and really started repositioning a few weeks

>

> > > > later. The main changes I noticed in the 2 months we did were

>

> > that

>

> > > > there was less of an angle to the flat side and that he seemed

>

> > to get

>

> > > > flatter in back. Did repo cause that?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Also, we have had great results with the Starband for the

>

> > plagio:

>

> > > > down from 11mm to 2mm in six weeks (we were down to 3mm in just

>

> > three

>

> > > > weeks!). But we just went from 91% to 90.5% cephalic index.

>

> > How

>

> > > > much longer will it take to get down into the mid-80's? Or will

>

> > we?

>

> > > > The orthotist isn't really very concerned with the brachy--he

>

> > thinks

>

> > > > it will resolve itself over time. Is that true? 's head

>

> > isn't

>

> > > > really flat on back, it just has a kind of round rather than

>

> > oblong

>

> > > > shape. I should really post some pics! I can't post "before"

>

> > pics

>

> > > > because the correction was so quick I didn't get around to

>

> > taking any.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Thanks!

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > in Starband since 01/05/09

>

> > > > Kansas

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> >

>

> > For more plagio info, go to www.plagiocephaly. org/support

>

> >

[Guest guest]

It looks like a combination of plagio and brachy and the numbers you have

given seem on target for what his head looks like.

Molly

Novato, California

Nicolas, 3, tort & plagio, STARband (CIRS Oakland) 4/24/06-9/12/06,

Graduate!

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Brachy and Plagio measurements/numbers

> > Plagiocephaly

> > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:30 AM

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> > My son was diagnosed with mild/moderate plagio and no

> one mentioned

> >

> > brachy to us, but the numbers we got were

> >

> > cir. 44 mm, cranial length 14 cm, width 13.5 cm, cephalic incex 96.4,

> >

> > and 6mm. The orthotist said average is 4-5mm and recommends a band for

> >

> > 6+. Sounds like my son has brachy too--probably more severely than the

> >

> > plagio from what I'm reading here, but I hadn't heard the term from

> >

> > the neurosurgeon or the orthotist. And it looks more flat on one side

> >

> > than in the back to me...

> >

> > --Meredith

> >

> >

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For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

To me, it does look like he also has brachy in addition to plagio. At first, I was almost certain that my daughter only had plagio because all I could focus on was the fact that the back of her head wasn't symmetrical. When I took her for measurements to Orthomerica and after CT took profile pictures of her, it became very obvious to me that she also had brachy and that her brachy was more severe than her plagio. Take a look at my daughter's pictures and measurements from her blog so you can compare: http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/4-6-months/

As a matter of fact, while her plagio is now resolved, we are still working on bringing her brachy number down a little more.

Leila,

Maysa, 13 months old, week 3 in DOC band 2

http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/--- On Tue, 2/24/09, mwschizer <mwschizer@...> wrote:

From: mwschizer <mwschizer@...>Subject: Re: Brachy and Plagio measurements/numbersPlagiocephaly Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 10:47 AM

I just posted a picture of Judah from overhead. Does it look likebrachy also?Thanks!> > From: mwschizer <mwschizer@>> > Subject: Brachy and Plagio measurements/ numbers> > To:

Plagiocephaly> > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:30 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son was diagnosed with mild/moderate plagio and no> one mentioned> > > > brachy to us, but the numbers we got were > > > > cir. 44 mm, cranial length 14 cm, width 13.5 cm, cephalic incex 96.4,> > > > and 6mm. The orthotist said average is 4-5mm and recommends a band for> > > > 6+. Sounds like my son has brachy too--probably more severely than the> > > > plagio from what I'm reading here, but I hadn't heard the term from> > > > the neurosurgeon or the orthotist. And it looks more flat

on one side> > > > than in the back to me...> > > > --Meredith> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Her pics look a lot like my son's.

> > > From: mwschizer <mwschizer@>

> > > Subject: Brachy and Plagio measurements/ numbers

> > > Plagiocephaly

> > > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:30 AM

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> > > My son was diagnosed with mild/moderate plagio and no

> > one mentioned

> > >

> > > brachy to us, but the numbers we got were

> > >

> > > cir. 44 mm, cranial length 14 cm, width 13.5 cm, cephalic incex

96.4,

> > >

> > > and 6mm. The orthotist said average is 4-5mm and recommends a

band for

> > >

> > > 6+. Sounds like my son has brachy too--probably more severely

than the

> > >

> > > plagio from what I'm reading here, but I hadn't heard the term from

> > >

> > > the neurosurgeon or the orthotist. And it looks more flat on one

side

> > >

> > > than in the back to me...

> > >

> > > --Meredith

> > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

No, I would say Judah has textbook plagio, flat on the left. That

should be the primary focus of his band treatment (if he is or will

be banded).

Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/08)

Jordan-5

> > > From: mwschizer <mwschizer@>

> > > Subject: Brachy and Plagio measurements/numbers

> > > Plagiocephaly

> > > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:30 AM

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> > > My son was diagnosed with mild/moderate plagio and

no

> > one mentioned

> > >

> > > brachy to us, but the numbers we got were

> > >

> > > cir. 44 mm, cranial length 14 cm, width 13.5 cm, cephalic

incex 96.4,

> > >

> > > and 6mm. The orthotist said average is 4-5mm and recommends a

band for

> > >

> > > 6+. Sounds like my son has brachy too--probably more severely

than the

> > >

> > > plagio from what I'm reading here, but I hadn't heard the term

from

> > >

> > > the neurosurgeon or the orthotist. And it looks more flat on

one side

> > >

> > > than in the back to me...

> > >

> > > --Meredith

> > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

I just looked at Judah's picture, and he really looks a lot

like my son did. Unfortunately I don't have a before

picture because, fortunately, the band worked too fast!

Our measurements were 11mm asymmetry and 94% CI. By the

time we got the band the CI was down to 91%---I don't know

how, but apparently that's what happened. We've had the

Starband for 6 weeks and so far it's just corrected the

asymmetry, which sort of makes sense to me if I draw a

picture of what parts are filling out. Now I'm hoping that

the band will be trimmed in a way as to hit to CI.

Good luck to you! How old is Judah?

> >

> > Thanks for your help. The orthotist did the measurements by hand

(with

> > a ruler-type thing). The band is a locally made one similar to a

> > Starband.

> > Right now, he's been out of the helmet for over a week due to a

staph

> > infection (that is healing). We're off to the pediatrician later

today

> > and hopefully he'll get the go-ahead to get the helmet re-

adjusted and

> > get him back in it.

> >

[Guest guest]

He's 7.5 months now. Started the band a month ago, but has been out of

it for the last two weeks due to an infection and will get back into

it on Friday. We'll get measurements again then.

His pediatrician saw him yesterday, though, and said it looked like

his head had improved some since he saw him almost 2 months ago (when

he sent us to the neurosurgeon who then prescribed the band).

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help. The orthotist did the measurements by hand

> (with

> > > a ruler-type thing). The band is a locally made one similar to a

> > > Starband.

> > > Right now, he's been out of the helmet for over a week due to a

> staph

> > > infection (that is healing). We're off to the pediatrician later

> today

> > > and hopefully he'll get the go-ahead to get the helmet re-

> adjusted and

> > > get him back in it.

> > >

>