Re: Drugs that Cause Pancreatitis

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Debs,

I know that it sounds strange that the Clonidine helped with your pain. But

actually it is not starnge at all. As a nurse I have seen all kinds of drugs

used for the past 28 years. The use of Clonidine as well as other types of drugs

have been found to be effective for pain relief to some level. Clonidine was

used about 10 (?) years ago for pain by Rehabilitation physicians and by pain

management physicians in large universities where research was in progress. That

is how all of the anti-seizure meds like Neuronitin, and also the anti

depressants and mood elevators like Elavil kinda got started for the use of

pain. Someone started doing studies and found that these types of drugs have

some type of effectiveness against pain. The pain cycle can be very complex with

the release of endorphens, synapsing and all kinds of physiological activity.

There were other drugs like Clonidine that we used about 15 years ago and now I

just can't remember them all( showing my age now!). But if it helps,,, and your

blood pressure can tolerate it,, go for it.

Generally Clonidine is a fairly fast acting drug. I wish that I could remember

the other drugs, if I do I will let you know.

Take Care,

Lily

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From: debzdebznz

Debs wrote :

Do you have articles on Clindine and the mycin family causing

pancreatitis.

I find it strange that when I was in hsopital for 43 days this was

one of the drug eg Cloindine that they put me on. It has done

nothing but help for me. I notice that the pain goes up without it.

Debs

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I know that when I am in the middle of an acute attack in the hospital,

the only pain med that makes the pain bearable is morphine. I also am

to understand that it is contra-indicated because of my SOD, but again,

no problems with it there either. I think it is a case of trial and

error and what works for one person, may not work for another.

Sandy/California

daveandsue@... wrote:

>Hi there,

>Re: drugs which cause pancreatitis.

>I was prescribed Ramapril (also known as Tritace) - in the UK for hypertension.

Pancreatitis is not listed as a side-effect, but it caused an acute attack for

me. I also found that some pain killers gave me acute symptoms - e.g morphine,

codeine.

>Has anyone else had a similar reaction to morphine or codeine?

>Sue.

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[Guest guest]

Lily Wow are you a doc or nurse?

I was impressed.The other drug I take that seems to work like

clondine is Nortryptiline.

I dont have high blood pressure in fact I have very low, so the

Clondine doesnt affect that I just know that when I stop it, I need

to take more pain meds

Are you on neurontin and clondine? etc ?

Debs

-- In pancreatitis , " bigsister " <Bigsister@w...>

wrote:

> Debs,

> I know that it sounds strange that the Clonidine helped with your

pain. But actually it is not starnge at all. As a nurse I have seen

all kinds of drugs used for the past 28 years. The use of Clonidine

as well as other types of drugs have been found to be effective for

pain relief to some level. Clonidine was used about 10 (?) years ago

for pain by Rehabilitation physicians and by pain management

physicians in large universities where research was in progress.

That is how all of the anti-seizure meds like Neuronitin, and also

the anti depressants and mood elevators like Elavil kinda got

started for the use of pain. Someone started doing studies and found

that these types of drugs have some type of effectiveness against

pain. The pain cycle can be very complex with the release of

endorphens, synapsing and all kinds of physiological activity.

There were other drugs like Clonidine that we used about 15 years

ago and now I just can't remember them all( showing my age now!).

But if it helps,,, and your blood pressure can tolerate it,, go for

it.

> Generally Clonidine is a fairly fast acting drug. I wish that I

could remember the other drugs, if I do I will let you know.

> Take Care,

> Lily

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> From: debzdebznz

> Debs wrote :

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> Do you have articles on Clindine and the mycin family causing

> pancreatitis.

> I find it strange that when I was in hsopital for 43 days this

was

> one of the drug eg Cloindine that they put me on. It has done

> nothing but help for me. I notice that the pain goes up without

it.

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> Debs

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[Guest guest]

Hi guys

When I have an attack they give me fenatnyl >Morphine IV can make

the pain wors I fin so they use fentanyl. Saying that I use MST

tablets daily and they are fine. I think they key is when its an

acute attacke for me dont use morphine

Debs

> Sue,

> I too cannot tolerate coedine. Can bring on an attack. Also,

> Morphine does not work for me during an attack either. Demerol

> works best for me. That goes to show drugs affect people in many

> different ways. I have also read on posts that Dilaudid (sp?)

> worked for many people. Last year when I was in the ER the Nurse

> gave me that for an attack and it caused increased pain. She gave

> me a second dose and the pain went through the roof. I then

begged

> her for demerol and ativan combo and I think she finally knocked

me

> out after a couple of doses.

> Kris from Tennessee (USA)

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Lily

Do you still work as a nurse?

Yeh I tried the neurontin but it wasnt subsidised here so it was too

expensive but I see they make beign do a special script so when I

can get back into see my pain Guy I am going to ask about it.

I have been thinking that I need to engage a GI as well both guys I

see but havent for a almost 2 years I try not to see them as it

reminds me I am sick lol are both surgeons . I also havent seen my

pain doc for that long I have tried emailing him but with no success

so I may try again

How is your CP now? do you take daily meds for pain etc?

DEbs

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[Guest guest]

-Mark what are these ones? I havent heard of them

azathioprine, sulfonamides, corticosteroids

Debs

-- In pancreatitis , " Mark E. Armstrong "

<casca@b...> wrote:

> This page can also be found at

http://www.top5plus5.com/Pancreas/QUESTIONS%20 & %20ANSWERS/QUESTIONS%

20 & %20ANSWERS.htm#Causes or if you go to the main top5 site and

type in causes of pancreatitis, it will bring up the page. I hope

this finds you and yours well......Mark

> Causes of pancreatitis

> What Causes It?

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> What Causes It?

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> There are several possible causes of pancreatitis:

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> a.. Disease of the biliary tract. The biliary tract is the

system of organs and ducts (including the liver, gallbladder, and

bile ducts) that creates, transports, stores, and releases bile into

the duodenum for digestion. The formation of stones in the biliary

tract can block the main duct of the pancreas as it enters the

duodenum.

> b.. Heavy alcohol use over a long period of time, which

can raise protein levels in pancreatic juices. Over time, the

protein can form plugs, blocking small pancreatic ducts. Alcohol

also allows enzymes to pass more easily through duct walls and

damage the pancreas. Biliary tract stones and alcoholism are the

most common causes of pancreatitis.

> c.. The drugs azathioprine, sulfonamides, corticosteroids,

nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs), and tetracyclines

> d.. Infection with mumps, hepatitis virus, rubella,

Epstein-Barr virus (the cause of mononucleosis), and cytomegalovirus

> e.. Abnormalities in the structure of the pancreas or the

pancreatic or bile ducts, including pancreatic cancer

> f.. High levels of triglycerides (fats) in the blood

> g.. Surgery to the abdomen, heart, or lungs that

temporarily cuts off blood supply to the pancreas, damaging tissue

> h.. Injury resulting in compression of the pancreas

against the spine

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> I hope this finds you and yours well

>

> Mark E. Armstrong

> casca@b...

> www.top5plus5.com

> PAI NW Rep

> ICQ #59196115

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> Debs,

> Nice to know i'm not alone in not being able to tolerate codeine.

Prior to having CP i used to take codeine (in combination with

paracetamol, which you can buy without prescription) and i took it

without any problems. Initially i was able to tolerate morphine too.

Maybe you can tolerate the MST because it is slow release, so there

is less in the system at any one time. I've had pethidine for acute

pain.

> Sue (UK)

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> > Message date : Mar 08 2004, 09:57 AM

> > From : " debzdebznz "

> > To : pancreatitis

> > Copy to :

> > Subject : Re: Drugs that Cause Pancreatitis

> > Hi guys

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> > When I have an attack they give me fenatnyl >Morphine IV can

make

> > the pain wors I fin so they use fentanyl. Saying that I use MST

> > tablets daily and they are fine. I think they key is when its an

> > acute attacke for me dont use morphine

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> > Debs

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> > > Sue,

> > > I too cannot tolerate coedine. Can bring on an attack. Also,

> > > Morphine does not work for me during an attack either. Demerol

> > > works best for me. That goes to show drugs affect people in

many

> > > different ways. I have also read on posts that Dilaudid (sp?)

> > > worked for many people. Last year when I was in the ER the

Nurse

> > > gave me that for an attack and it caused increased pain. She

gave

> > > me a second dose and the pain went through the roof. I then

> > begged

> > > her for demerol and ativan combo and I think she finally

knocked

> > me

> > > out after a couple of doses.

> > > Kris from Tennessee (USA)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

LIly

This clindiun sounds interesting I wish I could translat that into a

new zealand drug name as I migth suggest that to my doctor to see if

it helps me.

Yeh it would be really hard on your bad days, especially having ot

help others when you dont feel so good.

talk to you soon

Debs

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- In pancreatitis , " bigsister " <Bigsister@w...>

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> Debs,

> yes I still work as a nurse. I have good days and bad days. I have

SOD and have not been officially diagnosed with pancreatitis. But I

can tell you that the pain when it hits is severe. My doctor says

that we just need to monitor my pancreas presently. I have a CT done

every year. My granmother died of pancreatic cancer, so I stay on

top of things as much as possible. I do not take narcotics with

consistency. I take Clidinium for my pain, it is an anticholinergic,

kinda like a muscle spasm reliever for the GI tract.

> Lily

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> Lily

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> Do you still work as a nurse?

> Yeh I tried the neurontin but it wasnt subsidised here so it was

too

> expensive but I see they make beign do a special script so when

I

> can get back into see my pain Guy I am going to ask about it.

> I have been thinking that I need to engage a GI as well both

guys I

> see but havent for a almost 2 years I try not to see them as it

> reminds me I am sick lol are both surgeons . I also havent seen

my

> pain doc for that long I have tried emailing him but with no

success

> so I may try again

> How is your CP now? do you take daily meds for pain etc?

> DEbs

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