Type of yogurt?

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I am wondering what type of yogurt to try for my son and I. We are both

pretty severely lactose intolerant. I don't know if we are actually ALLERGIC

to milk (is there a difference?). I for sure cannot tolerate goat's milk (if

it's raw). If I cannot tolerate it raw, does that mean I won't be able to

tolerate it in yogurt??

We could always try nut yogurt, but I am not able to do any nuts. If I'm

intolerant to nuts, does that mean that the nut milk will bother me also? I

feel like the intolerance is due more to fiber than anything else.

Any suggestions on which type of yogurt we should try first?

Thanks for any suggestions,

~

Celiac

Son and I will start diet around the second week of August (I'm so excited!)

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When you make SCD yogurt, the beneficial bacteria consume all the lactose in the

milk during the 24 fermentation process. So... if it's the lactose that you

react to, you should be able to tolerate SCD yogurt. If you have problems with

the actual milk protein (casein), the fermentation process also does make it

*easier* to digest, but you *may* still not tolerate it.

Of course, you should never eat any food that you have an anaphylactic allergy

to. If you are allergic to nuts, you should not do nut yogurt.

Goat yogurt is generally tolerated better by the ASD kids that have problems

with cow dairy. If you know you react more to goat milk than to cow, it seems

like cow might be a better one to try. It makes a nicer, thicker yogurt, too. We

always suggest starting with an extremely small amount, observe how you do with

it, and increase slowly. Yogurt is powerful stuff.... but oh-so-healing.

Patti

Type of yogurt?

I am wondering what type of yogurt to try for my son and I. We are both

pretty severely lactose intolerant. I don't know if we are actually ALLERGIC

to milk (is there a difference?). I for sure cannot tolerate goat's milk (if

it's raw). If I cannot tolerate it raw, does that mean I won't be able to

tolerate it in yogurt??

We could always try nut yogurt, but I am not able to do any nuts. If I'm

intolerant to nuts, does that mean that the nut milk will bother me also? I

feel like the intolerance is due more to fiber than anything else.

Any suggestions on which type of yogurt we should try first?

Thanks for any suggestions,

~

Celiac

Son and I will start diet around the second week of August (I'm so excited!)

[Guest guest]

> I am wondering what type of yogurt to try for my son and I. We are both

> pretty severely lactose intolerant. I don't know if we are actually

> ALLERGIC

> to milk (is there a difference?). I for sure cannot tolerate goat's

> milk (if

> it's raw). If I cannot tolerate it raw, does that mean I won't be able

> to

> tolerate it in yogurt??

Not necessarily. It may be the lactose. Making yogurt removed it. If

it's the casein then avoid it. The protein molecule in goats milk

didders from cow's milk and is usually more digestible.

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

Patti,

No, I'm not allergic to nuts....they just bother the tummy. I'm nearly

positive it's the fiber, but I suppose it could be something more. That's

why I was wondering if nut MILK would bother me. ?

And how exactly do you tell whether you're casein intolerant, or if it's a

dairy intolerance? I understand that if it's dairy that bothers me, then I

can go ahead with the cow yogurt. If casein bothers me, then I suppose I'd

try the goat yogurt. In fact, that's probably what I'll do, just to be safe.

Then maybe try and " graduate " to cow yogurt. I love the taste of it....but

boy do I react to it (of course, I'm not totally SCD, so that may be why)..

Thanks for talking it out with me. :-)

~

Celiac

>When you make SCD yogurt, the beneficial bacteria consume all the lactose

>in the milk during the 24 fermentation process. So... if it's the lactose

>that you react to, you should be able to tolerate SCD yogurt. If you have

>problems with the actual milk protein (casein), the fermentation process

>also does make it *easier* to digest, but you *may* still not tolerate it.

>

>Of course, you should never eat any food that you have an anaphylactic

>allergy to. If you are allergic to nuts, you should not do nut yogurt.

>

>Goat yogurt is generally tolerated better by the ASD kids that have

>problems with cow dairy. If you know you react more to goat milk than to

>cow, it seems like cow might be a better one to try. It makes a nicer,

>thicker yogurt, too. We always suggest starting with an extremely small

>amount, observe how you do with it, and increase slowly. Yogurt is powerful

>stuff.... but oh-so-healing.

>

>Patti

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Carol. I think I'll try the goat yogurt, just in case.

~

>

> > I am wondering what type of yogurt to try for my son and I. We are both

> > pretty severely lactose intolerant. I don't know if we are actually

> > ALLERGIC

> > to milk (is there a difference?). I for sure cannot tolerate goat's

> > milk (if

> > it's raw). If I cannot tolerate it raw, does that mean I won't be able

> > to

> > tolerate it in yogurt??

>

>Not necessarily. It may be the lactose. Making yogurt removed it. If

>it's the casein then avoid it. The protein molecule in goats milk

>didders from cow's milk and is usually more digestible.

>

>Carol F.

>Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

>SCD 6 years

>

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[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

<<No, I'm not allergic to nuts....they just bother the tummy. I'm nearly

positive it's the fiber, but I suppose it could be something more. That's

why I was wondering if nut MILK would bother me. ?>>

Hmmmm.... well, it might be worth a try then, since nut milk has nearly all the

fibrous parts strained out. If you tried a small amount and did okay, you could

work up from there and see how your tummy feels.

<<And how exactly do you tell whether you're casein intolerant, or if it's a

dairy intolerance? I understand that if it's dairy that bothers me, then I

can go ahead with the cow yogurt. If casein bothers me, then I suppose I'd

try the goat yogurt.>>

Okay.... well, just going on memory, I think I remember you saying that you were

" lactose intolerant " ... so I guess I assumed you knew it was the lactose.

Lactose is the milk SUGAR... which bothers a lot of people. SCD yogurt is

basically lactose-free... so it likely would not give you problems if that's the

case.

It's different, for example, for the kids who have severe " leaky gut "

syndrome.... because they are actually having an allergic type reaction to the

milk PROTEIN (casein). Many of those kids can tolerate yogurt made from goat

milk, simply because they have not been previously exposed to the goat casein,

so their bodies don't respond as if it were a threat.

I honestly don't know how you tell whether you're reacting to lactose (milk

sugar) or casein (milk protein). I was just assuming you knew it was the

lactose.

A friend of mine who is lactose intolerant (she is not on SCD) gets almost

immediate stomach aches from ingesting even a small amount of regular milk,

cheese or ice cream, etc....followed by diarrhea a couple of hours later. I

gave her a bowl of my SCD cow-milk yogurt and she had ZERO tummy symptoms.

You should probably proceed at whatever pace you feel comfortable with. Just

know that the milk-based SCD yogurt does have healing qualities that go beyond

what nut-milk yogurts can offer. Nut yogurt is basically just a way of " growing "

more probiotics... it's a medium for cultivating them... and eating the nut

yogurt is just a delivery system for those probiotics. It does have other good

nutrients, too.

Milk-based yogurt (cow or goat) seems to have other gut-healing qualities above

and beyond that.

Patti