Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I have discovered that the way my son sometimes reacts negatively to a food is by screaming and crying in his sleep or waking up screaming. I think that scd legal peanut butter is the culprit. The screaming subsided pretty quickly after beginning scd, and has returned off and on over the past six weeks(if I had to guess). I've gone back to the intro diet for a couple of days, and the sleep issues subside immediately. In the past couple of days, I've determined that almost certainly the problem food is peanut butter. iel was tested by an immunologist about a month prior to beginning the diet using the RATTS test. We tested for everything that he has consumed on a somewhat regular basis...probably about 40 to 50 items...and only eggs showed any reaction. I would have thought that being three months into scd iel could handle nut butter. Does anyone have an opinion/thought on why this isn't the case? Is it possible that he is allergic to peanuts? Should I try another type of nut butter, or assume that all would cause the same problem? Is there some specific reason why he might not be able to tolerate the peanut butter yet when he can tolerate foods like unpealed, raw peaches, chopped, raw apple, and the like? The graininess of the nut butter perhaps? I have also used pecan meal in making " chicken nuggets " and scd legal sausage, and I have not noticed the sleeping problems. I am reluctant to make the foods with nut meal and flour now in case it is nuts in general that are the problem. Thanks for your thoughts. Meleah C. scd 3 mth. Ethan5, iel 3 asd, Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Is it possible that he is allergic to peanuts? Should I try another type of nut butter, or assume that all would cause the same problem? Peanuts are legumes, not nuts. Does he have a problem w/ scd-legal beans or have you still not tried them yet? Do you mean " RAST " test? -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 My understanding from our DAN is that it happens not infrequently/fairly often that RAST tests show false negatives. However, false positives are somewhat rare. Also, from the DAN allergist, you have to be eating the food a couple of times a week for the preceding month before doing the rast test. If you haven't been eating the food, you might be more likely to have a false negative. Anyone else have the same understanding? Rob's mom Peanut butter issue I have discovered that the way my son sometimes reacts negatively to a food is by screaming and crying in his sleep or waking up screaming. I think that scd legal peanut butter is the culprit. The screaming subsided pretty quickly after beginning scd, and has returned off and on over the past six weeks(if I had to guess). I've gone back to the intro diet for a couple of days, and the sleep issues subside immediately. In the past couple of days, I've determined that almost certainly the problem food is peanut butter. iel was tested by an immunologist about a month prior to beginning the diet using the RATTS test. We tested for everything that he has consumed on a somewhat regular basis...probably about 40 to 50 items...and only eggs showed any reaction. I would have thought that being three months into scd iel could handle nut butter. Does anyone have an opinion/thought on why this isn't the case? Is it possible that he is allergic to peanuts? Should I t! ry another type of nut butter, or assume that all would cause the same problem? Is there some specific reason why he might not be able to tolerate the peanut butter yet when he can tolerate foods like unpealed, raw peaches, chopped, raw apple, and the like? The graininess of the nut butter perhaps? I have also used pecan meal in making " chicken nuggets " and scd legal sausage, and I have not noticed the sleeping problems. I am reluctant to make the foods with nut meal and flour now in case it is nuts in general that are the problem. Thanks for your thoughts. Meleah C. scd 3 mth. Ethan5, iel 3 asd, Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 I'm sure that he had eaten the regular old Skippy peanut butter before the test since we were in the land of peanut butter and jelly sandwich, so does that make it more likely that the test result was correct? Since tree nuts and peanuts are in different families, should I consider that he might be able to handle other nut butter(almond, cashew, ect.), or assume that they will also cause a problem? Meleah Peanut butter issue > > > I have discovered that the way my son sometimes reacts negatively to a > food is by screaming and crying in his sleep or waking up screaming. I > think that scd legal peanut butter is the culprit. The screaming > subsided pretty quickly after beginning scd, and has returned off and on > over the past six weeks(if I had to guess). I've gone back to the intro > diet for a couple of days, and the sleep issues subside immediately. In > the past couple of days, I've determined that almost certainly the > problem food is peanut butter. iel was tested by an immunologist > about a month prior to beginning the diet using the RATTS test. We > tested for everything that he has consumed on a somewhat regular > basis...probably about 40 to 50 items...and only eggs showed any > reaction. I would have thought that being three months into scd > iel could handle nut butter. Does anyone have an opinion/thought > on why this isn't the case? Is it possible that he is allergic to > peanuts? Should I t! > ry another type of nut butter, or assume that all would cause the same > problem? Is there some specific reason why he might not be able to > tolerate the peanut butter yet when he can tolerate foods like unpealed, > raw peaches, chopped, raw apple, and the like? The graininess of the > nut butter perhaps? I have also used pecan meal in making " chicken > nuggets " and scd legal sausage, and I have not noticed the sleeping > problems. I am reluctant to make the foods with nut meal and flour now > in case it is nuts in general that are the problem. Thanks for your > thoughts. > Meleah C. > scd 3 mth. > Ethan5, iel 3 asd, Mark 1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 > > I have not tried any beans yet, and I guess the test is called RAST. I just > thought that they said RATT. > Meleah C. > Okay. The reason I was asking how beans went is that you'd likely see the a similar reaction between peanuts and beans if it was a 'family of food' rxn, not just peanuts. A potential issue with peanuts is the aflotoxin (sp?). Valencia peanuts are supposedly far lower risk (we use organic valencia peanut butter with my son occasionally with no issues). Maranatha brand. Glenn has been scd+ since 2/05 and there are still some things we avoid...(beans and tree nuts being among those items). You can 'do diet' without these quite well if your child will eat balanced otherwise. Tho I really only have experience with my little guy and not 'loads of kids' as others on this list may. Just in my opinion, if you are still seeing a reaction such as you describe (to anything) I would hold off on introducing more 'complex' foods (tree nuts, legal beans, etc). His gut just might need a bit more time :-) -christine and glenn SCD+ 2/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 > > And then my question is what else do we eat because we're all getting pretty > tired of baked and grilled chicken and hamburger patties with cooked vegies > and raw fruits. We were hoping to be able to make something with nut > flour...doughnuts, bread, cookies. > Meleah > Well, if you are asking me what our family eats, I can share a couple of examples. We're not bored, lol. However, one of the reasons I loved scd from the get is that is was not about replacement (like GFCF can be), but a different way of looking at food entirely. I don't mimic the standard american diet in this house. However, my son is not a fussy eater, and transitioning was not hard for us. That does mean I (personally) can't commisrate well with 'man I miss that morning doughnut'...we never ate like that before any diet. There are resources... a yahoogroup on 'scd recipes' where you might find more ideas. Also, some of the Paleofood sites have a recipe index as well...hit google for that; there's lots. Just pay make sure the ingredient lists are okay for your family. Also, are you dairy free? There are some gooodies in terms of cheescake, custard etc. just make it w/out crust. Etc. If it was more of a rhetorical " What is there to eat? " I don't know what to say, really. We restrict, but don't limit, if that makes sense. Three months on scd (your time, right?) is not that long, and I happen to err on the side of caution (with my son, he was a real mess gut wise for a long time. I avoid boat-rocking, lol). Not everyone avoids the things we choose to. Just like not everyone finds that GFCF doesn't work. Depends on individual issues, and I am not familiar with yours. Like I said, if you are still seeing reactions from something like peanut butter (I am assuming it's in small amounts) I would go reeeaaallly slow introducing other foods that are complex. The end goal is long term health, so....discretion is important here, IMO. Do let me know if you are interested in our food ideas. We're pretty happy. If not, I am sorry I could not be of more help to you :-) -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 > > , > I truly was serious about asking what to eat. I'd be grateful for some > suggestions. > Okay. I am actually late for school just now, but will post some later tonight/ this weekend. Hopefully they'll helpful; since Glenn isn't really picky I never know what may be a good idea or not to suggest for a more 'selective' child, lol. Is he picky on taste, texture (oral sensativity) or both? Anything you avoid other than PB and beans? -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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