Re: cranberry juice, coconut flour & homeopathics.

July 6, 2006

Alison,

In my opinion, the first thing that pops out is that you've done this

homeopathic detox at the same time as beginning SCD. VERY difficult to know what

is what. As I earlier told you, a friend of mine's daughter had a very rough

time with a similar homeopathic detox. I just personally feel it would not be

advisable to do both at once. You've just got a lot happening simultaneously.

I mean, MANY kids have adverse symptoms when beginning SCD... which are

temporary.... but doesn't it make sense that a homeopathic detox regime could

trigger adverse symptoms, too? After all, it's supposed to cause the body to

detox out these yucky viruses/vaccines, right? Sounds like a huge amount for a

little body to have to deal with all at once.

The issue of whether or not there are trace sugars in the homeopathic pills that

are impeding progress on SCD is a completely separate one.... but, I suppose

the answer is yes, potentially that could play a part.

You said:

<<I am thinking that I need to stop homeo treatment & just concentrate on scd.>>

Stopping the homeopathics for now is DEFINITELY what I would recommend... unless

you can get them formulated in a different way.... AND unless you are prepared

to not really be able to know which is causing the negative responses, diet or

detox. His body may be able to better deal with the detox after a few months on

SCD.

I'm sorry I don't know anything about that particular cranberry juice. We've had

so many people asking lately... " is this juice legal? " ... " is that juice

legal? " . I don't know what to say. I don't mean to sound harsh... but I think

you need to take that responsibility on. If you have contacted the company and

are satisfied that it has absolutely nothing added, and are comfortable using

it, then go ahead. If you have a trace of doubt, then you need think hard about

that.

It's impossible for us to stay on top of approving various brands of juices.

Even some of those brands that were " approved " by Elaine personally, when she

was alive, are now in question. We all have to be watchful for changes and

scrutinize... and then make the decision based on what risks we're willing to

take.

<<I am getting so confused about honey & stevia, some diets & naturopaths swear

honey will feed yeast & recommend stevia, yet scd & others say honey is the only

legal form of sugar, but everyone has examples of success with each

approach. >>

First, let me say upfront that I do use stevia. I also use honey.

I know that Elaine disliked stevia.... but it was because the molecule has

similarities to a steroid-type molecule or something. It was not because she

felt it had any sugars or starches that would compromise the diet. You can go

read what she had to say about stevia on her website,

www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info , under the " Knowledge Base " .

She was not comfortable with recommending it, because she hadn't researched it

in depth and didn't think there was enough evidence out there to convince her

that it was absolutely safe. Not much scientific research has been done on it,

so not much to turn to. I guess she learned enough to satisfy herself that she

didn't want to recommend it.

However, she DID tell me personally, and other parents, to go ahead and use it

if we wanted to, and if we felt comfortable with it. I don't broadly recommend

the use of stevia on the list... this is just a personal decision on my part.

Many may disagree. I personally feel better about using it than saccharin.

That's just me. Anyway, this is one of those areas where there is no clear-cut,

absolute answer. You have to decide for yourself.

Alison, I think your instincts are very good.... about just concentrating on

SCD for now. I think you have to give it time, and give his little body a break

from trying to accomplish so much all at once. Take a deep breath... and give

yourself a break. Five weeks must seem like a LONG, LONG time, when you've not

seen anything improve.

Sorry I don't know anything at all about the allergy testing and treatments.

Hang in there...

Patti

cranberry juice, coconut flour & homeopathics.

My son Jack 6yo with ASD has been scd 5 wks. Is Lakewood organic

pure cranberry juice (not from concentrate) legal. Also is coconut

flour ok or is this to fibrous.

Jack has not improved much in fact he is at his worst ever,

headbanging & his mood is so fragile, he looks washed out &

hungover, but this may also stem from the headbanging & screaming.

We have just finished a homeopathic MMR detox, which does not seem

to have made any difference. My qu is has anyone else found that

homeopthics can have adverse effects, I know some of the tablets

have sugar of some sort in them. I am thinking that I need to stop

homeo treatment & just concentrate on scd. I am getting so confused

about honey & stevia, some diets & naturopaths swear honey will feed

yeast & recommend stevia, yet scd & others say honey is the only

legal form of sugar, but everyone has examples of success with each

approach. Please, I am not trying to make trouble, I am just so

confused as to how the same problems seem to have so many oppossing

treatments. Has anyone done muscle testing for

allergies/sensitivities, my son reacted to wheat, dairy,salicylates,

amines, sugars, proteins, phenols, moulds, yeasts, glues, inks &

perfumes ( I think that is it) He has been treated for most of them

but I still do not give him sugars or dairy. Has anyone else done

this, sometimes it seems I waste so much money to have my son slip

further away from us. I find it so hard to judge if he is having a

rxn to foods or if he is just having a bad day. I would love to hear

from others at the moment, as I am sure you have guessed I am having

a rough time.

Thanks

Alison Singleton mum to Jack 6yo with asd, scd 5 wks

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

July 6, 2006

homeopathics are incredible, healed my terrible exczema with it,but you need

a good homeopath. the same happened to me with Jay- ie bad reaction, it is

cos they are lactose based the tablets, you need to tell your hom and get all

your remedies in tincture form, and then you're away, gotta go, being kissed t

death by a soggy 3 yr old, love Josie

>

> My son Jack 6yo with ASD has been scd 5 wks. Is Lakewood organic

> pure cranberry juice (not from concentrate) legal. Also is coconut

> flour ok or is this to fibrous.

> Jack has not improved much in fact he is at his worst ever,

> headbanging & his mood is so fragile, he looks washed out &

> hungover, but this may also stem from the headbanging & screaming.

> We have just finished a homeopathic MMR detox, which does not seem

> to have made any difference. My qu is has anyone else found that

> homeopthics can have adverse effects, I know some of the tablets

> have sugar of some sort in them. I am thinking that I need to stop

> homeo treatment & just concentrate on scd. I am getting so confused

> about honey & stevia, some diets & naturopaths swear honey will feed

> yeast & recommend stevia, yet scd & others say honey is the only

> legal form of sugar, but everyone has examples of success with each

> approach. Please, I am not trying to make trouble, I am just so

> confused as to how the same problems seem to have so many oppossing

> treatments. Has anyone done muscle testing for

> allergies/sensitivities, my son reacted to wheat, dairy,salicylates,

> amines, sugars, proteins, phenols, moulds, yeasts, glues, inks &

> perfumes ( I think that is it) He has been treated for most of them

> but I still do not give him sugars or dairy. Has anyone else done

> this, sometimes it seems I waste so much money to have my son slip

> further away from us. I find it so hard to judge if he is having a

> rxn to foods or if he is just having a bad day. I would love to hear

> from others at the moment, as I am sure you have guessed I am having

> a rough time.

> Thanks

> Alison Singleton mum to Jack 6yo with asd, scd 5 wks

>

July 6, 2006

Hi Alison, sorry my previous post was brief, I felt it important ot say about

the

lactose in H. tablets but didn't have time to write more. It may be confusing

doing the 2 things at once, but I know my homeopath was only really

concerned that we had no new things going on while doing the remedies that

were going deeper ie after finishing with giving the potencized mercury,

ultrasound and all the other energy clearing remedies. I don't know how she/

he is working with your son but ours did all these in a kind of time order

moving backwards and then once we had done this we moved onto more

constitutional stuff with a less confusing picture to base the prescription of

those remedies on.

If you already had a good baseline with your son to go on in terms of SCD (

was his behaviour, poops etc quite stable before giving the homeopathy?)

then you may be alright with the homeopathy & scd together ( removing

lactose though!!). I might be wrong, but I know with Jay he was literally

headbanging the walls after the lactose based tablets, just like withdrawl from

casein, really upsetting to watch I remember it well.Your post just reminded

me of my own feelings at the time and I'm hoping for your sake that thet is

what is going on. The good news is that it only takes a few days to get it out

of

his system unlike a gluten infraction.

Alison I have been the past 6 months on such an emotional roller coaster,

feeling well out of my depth many many times, so many things I have been

trying to grasp at once and my mind can only do so much, absorb so much,

but at the same time I am SO desperate to understand what is going on in my

son's body and HELP HIM!!!!!!! It has been n extremely steep learning curve

but at some times just too much hearing all the different advice, almost

paralysing

There have been a few people on this serve and a few others who have sent

me posts which have literally saved me from going over the edge and I was

wondering if you would let me post these to you off this serve. One is from

alovely lady on the biomedical board who sent me this letter which was so

amazing, I printed it out and kept it, actually looked at it today and still is

so

valid and the other things have been to do with the diet which have helped

me enormously to finally grasp how to approach this with my son.

Actually I think I would like to post the first one here as I feel it would be

helpful/meaningful to many of us.I will label it OT as it isn't to do with diet

so

much as mindset and attitude towards ourselves and our children at this time

of upheaval. The others go more OT so would prefer to send you privately. I

will title the email from Josie so you know what it is, love to you and yours,

really hope that I've helped a little bit, love to you and yours, Josie