Guest guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Share Posted October 1, 2000 In a message dated 10/1/2000 12:55:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kmarshal@... writes: << Will we see an upsurge in the incidence in cancer sufferers as a result of the increase in the use of rubbing alcohol? Ken >> Where have you been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Share Posted October 1, 2000 Surely there is some staid old scientific work documenting the toxic effects of propyl alcohol. Leo ------------------------------------ > Dr. advises people to avoid isopropyl alcohol(The Cure For All Cancers).In Australia, the manufacturers of isopropyl rubbing alcohol have embarked on a huge advertising campaign (TV and brochures ) to increase sales.They list 101 uses, ie. shaving rash ,pimples and acne, infection caused by bacteria on the skin, cuts and abrasions,insect bites and stings, removing makeup, cleaning and refreshing, massage lotion , relief of fatigued muscles, prevention of tinea, body rub to prevent bed sores on the aged and invalid people, relief to minor burns,etc,etc. > Dr. wrote " Remember ,100% of cancer patients have the solvent propyl alcohol accumulated in the liver and in their cancerous tissues. " > Will we see an upsurge in the incidence in cancer sufferers as a result of the increase in the use of rubbing alcohol? > > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2000 Report Share Posted October 2, 2000 Howdy Ken, Cripes!! I haven't seen any of these ads...but I rarely watch commercial TV..can you point me to some of the ads, please? If the manufacturers are promoting pure isopropyl alcohol, this is serious as it is dangerous in large amounts. Sunday, October 01, 2000, 7:32:51 AM, you wrote: KM> Dr. advises people to avoid isopropyl alcohol(The Cure For All Cancers).In Australia, the manufacturers of isopropyl rubbing alcohol have embarked on a huge advertising campaign (TV and KM> brochures ) to increase sales.They list 101 uses, ie. shaving rash ,pimples and acne, infection caused by bacteria on the skin, cuts and abrasions,insect bites and stings, removing makeup, KM> cleaning and refreshing, massage lotion , relief of fatigued muscles, prevention of tinea, body rub to prevent bed sores on the aged and invalid people, relief to minor burns,etc,etc. KM> Dr. wrote " Remember ,100% of cancer patients have the solvent propyl alcohol accumulated in the liver and in their cancerous tissues. " KM> Will we see an upsurge in the incidence in cancer sufferers as a result of the increase in the use of rubbing alcohol? KM> Ken -- Best regards, Woofie Http://www.woofess.com mailto:woofie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 we were told to use 70%, because 90-100% could irritate the skin From: "nyctrain@..." <nyctrain@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:09:28 AMSubject: Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I've found it at Target or Walmart. I think I remember someone saying once that they kept the 90% behind the pharmacy counter or something where they were living, so you might want to ask if you don't see it on the shelf. Jake-2.5 (DOCBand Grad 9/08) Jordan-5 > > We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 We too were told 70 percentSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: ZK Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT)<Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol we were told to use 70%, because 90-100% could irritate the skinFrom: "nyctrainsbcglobal (DOT) net" <nyctrainsbcglobal (DOT) net>Plagiocephaly Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:09:28 AMSubject: Isopropyl Rubbing AlcoholWe can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 My doc recommended starting with the 70%...my son, Justice, sweated alot and they suggested the 90%. Ilive in central MN...I have had no problems finding it...Walmart carries it right beside the 70%..also our local grocer has it and the local pharmacy carries it also.BTW, the 90% really helped with the smell. Good luck! -mom to Justice age 6 months waiting on 2nd starband (tomorrow) From: nyctrain@... <nyctrain@...>Subject: Isopropyl Rubbing AlcoholPlagiocephaly Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 2:09 PM We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I found the 90% rubbing alcohol at our local supermarket (Safeway in California). I've also seen it at Target. Molly Novato, California Nicolas, 3, tort & plagio, STARband (CIRS Oakland) 4/24/06-9/12/06, Graduate! , 6 , 9 Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! ------------------------------------ For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I haven't read all the replies so I'm sorry if someone already said this. We get ours at CVS. ____________________________________________________________ Rock Solid Web Hosting. Click Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 > > We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! > Please note first that I am not a doctor, nor do I work in the medical field. However, I do have a child who is a STARBand graduate, and I ended up learning quite a bit about this subject, through both my own knowledge, experience and research, and also through speaking to various doctors and therapists along the way. The only difference between the 70% and the 90% is that the 90% contains more isopropyl alcohol and less water than the 70%. The fact that there's less water in the 90% means a couple of things, among others: (1) the higher alcohol content will give it more fighting power against the dirt and bacteria causing the stains and odor; and (2) it will evaporate more quickly after being applied. The first point is obvious and is the reason most people prefer the 90% over the 70%. The general rule is, if you don't have to use the 70%, use the 90%, if you can find it (by the way, they sell 90% at Walgreen's, if they have those where you live). The second point, however, is more subtle but nonetheless quite significant. The fact that it evaporates quicker also means it can cause more dryness and irritation to the skin. If the skin gets too dry or irritated, there will be cracking and flaking, which can become easy entranceways into your child's system for other bacteria and viruses, against which your child may or may not be susceptible to or, if susceptible, able to fight off naturally. In these cases you want to minimize the dryness and irritation factor by using the 70% or, in the extreme, eliminating the use of alcohol altogether (which, I suppose, we could call 0%). For example, let's assume a child is not prone to allergies, does not have things like eczema, psoriasis, dandruff or other sensitive skin conditions, didn't have cradle cap as an infant, and lives in a humid climate, those factors would seem to indicate that the child is less likely to experience any serious problems with the 90%. But any variation in those or a multitude of other factors might very well give rise to the need for the milder 70% or even the more extreme 0%. Or it might not. Therefore, choosing between the 70% and the 90% (or 0%) depends entirely on your child's individual circumstances, and you should definitely discuss this with your pediatrician, craniofacialist, orthotist, therapist, and/or whoever else you may be seeing for treatment. I hope this helps. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Alcohol should all evaporate. If you're worried wipe it down with water damp cloth after to get any residue off. My son has eczema and I think we use 90% alcohol and he has no problems. From: ZK Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT)<Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol we were told to use 70%, because 90-100% could irritate the skinFrom: "nyctrainsbcglobal (DOT) net" <nyctrainsbcglobal (DOT) net>Plagiocephaly Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:09:28 AMSubject: Isopropyl Rubbing AlcoholWe can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 I found 70% worked just as well. Since it had more water, I could do a better job about scrubbing the band before it evaporated. The 90% evaporated so fast it was harder to scrub with. As for drying the skin. I don't agree. All the alcohol should have evaporated before you put it back on your child's head, so it shouldn't matter which you use from the perspective. -christine sydney, 3 yrs, starband grad > > > > We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! > > > Please note first that I am not a doctor, nor do I work in the medical field. However, I do have a child who is a STARBand graduate, and I ended up learning quite a bit about this subject, through both my own knowledge, experience and research, and also through speaking to various doctors and therapists along the way. > > The only difference between the 70% and the 90% is that the 90% contains more isopropyl alcohol and less water than the 70%. The fact that there's less water in the 90% means a couple of things, among others: (1) the higher alcohol content will give it more fighting power against the dirt and bacteria causing the stains and odor; and (2) it will evaporate more quickly after being applied. > > The first point is obvious and is the reason most people prefer the 90% over the 70%. The general rule is, if you don't have to use the 70%, use the 90%, if you can find it (by the way, they sell 90% at Walgreen's, if they have those where you live). > > The second point, however, is more subtle but nonetheless quite significant. The fact that it evaporates quicker also means it can cause more dryness and irritation to the skin. If the skin gets too dry or irritated, there will be cracking and flaking, which can become easy entranceways into your child's system for other bacteria and viruses, against which your child may or may not be susceptible to or, if susceptible, able to fight off naturally. In these cases you want to minimize the dryness and irritation factor by using the 70% or, in the extreme, eliminating the use of alcohol altogether (which, I suppose, we could call 0%). > > For example, let's assume a child is not prone to allergies, does not have things like eczema, psoriasis, dandruff or other sensitive skin conditions, didn't have cradle cap as an infant, and lives in a humid climate, those factors would seem to indicate that the child is less likely to experience any serious problems with the 90%. But any variation in those or a multitude of other factors might very well give rise to the need for the milder 70% or even the more extreme 0%. Or it might not. > > Therefore, choosing between the 70% and the 90% (or 0%) depends entirely on your child's individual circumstances, and you should definitely discuss this with your pediatrician, craniofacialist, orthotist, therapist, and/or whoever else you may be seeing for treatment. > > I hope this helps. > > Steve > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 We found ours at Wal-MArt - they sell big bottles of it too which is nice to help last longer. For us it worked much better for the stink then the 70% did. Good luck! - Meg, mom to Lucy, STARband grad 1/12/09 > > We can seem to only find 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol to clean our son's DOC Band. We hear using 90% will help with the smell better than 70%. Where have you been able to find the 90% ? Thank you! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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