Re: HELP....I need some advice

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Joyce, Whenever I have a craving I give in to it but after a few bites I

don't want anymore. Those few bites satisfy my craving. I do not deprive

myself from anything I want to have. The whole thing with me wanting this

surgery was so that I can eat in moderation and I can do that now. Not to

have to live on a diet like I have been for the past 15 years or more. Eat

and enjoy. Liz

[Guest guest]

Joyce, By the way something must be working even if I do have some chocolate

now and then because I am down 112 pounds since my surgery on 12-20-99. Liz

[Guest guest]

Boy you can sure tell this board loves chocolate cause I have seen quite a

few responses to her question. LOL

[Guest guest]

Eat the chocolate. One way or another, it will be it's own reward.

RobandJoyplus4@... wrote:

>

> OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July 19th and

> usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad craving for

> chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then a week

> before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie sundae on

> the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time again and

> I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know how to

> handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the surgery

> but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you think with

> a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8 feet from me

> but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please let me

> know what I can do. Thanks

> Joyce in KY

> MGB--July 19, 2000

>

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I can't eat ice cream any more (dumping) but frozen yogurt is usually

okay. Some sweets bother me, some don't, but none of them tastes

different to me and I still have sweet cravings, but I am *very*

satisfied by what would have been a ridiculously stupid amount in the

past, like 1/4 cup.

I seem to get on 2 week long " kicks, " though and I think the last 2

weeks was a sweet kick and I'm over it now. Before that, I had a 4 week

hangup over vegetable-beef soup -- I could eat it day or night.

This week, I seem to be on a " don't really wanna eat anything " kick.

florence@... wrote:

>

> Eat chocolate Joyce! You can do that now you know! Bet it doesn't taste very

good. Like

> my Edy's Vanilla Bean ice cream...I have such fond memories of Edy and I...but

they are just

> memories...because Dr. R ruined the hell out of my relationship with Edy's!

>

> Painfully thin in land

>

> > ** Original Subject: RE: HELP....I need some advice

> > **

> > ** Original Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:22:38 -0400

>

> > ** Original Message follows...

>

> >

> > OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July 19th and

> > usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad craving

for

> > chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then a week

> > before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie sundae on

> > the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time again and

> > I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know how to

> > handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the surgery

> > but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you think

with

> > a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8 feet from

me

> > but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please let me

> > know what I can do. Thanks

> > Joyce in KY

> > MGB--July 19, 2000

> >

> >

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> Florence Ballengee

> Hollywood, land

> florence@...

>

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>

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what is the difference between the RYN and MGB?

RE: HELP....I need some advice

>> > **

>> > ** Original Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:22:38 -0400

>>

>> > ** Original Message follows...

>>

>> >

>> > OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July 19th

and

>> > usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad

craving for

>> > chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then a

week

>> > before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie sundae

on

>> > the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time

again and

>> > I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know how

to

>> > handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the

surgery

>> > but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you

think with

>> > a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8 feet

from me

>> > but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please

let me

>> > know what I can do. Thanks

>> > Joyce in KY

>> > MGB--July 19, 2000

>> >

>> >

>> >

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>> >

>>

>> Florence Ballengee

>> Hollywood, land

>> florence@...

>>

>> Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com

>>

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Eat chocolate Joyce! You can do that now you know! Bet it doesn't taste very

good. Like

my Edy's Vanilla Bean ice cream...I have such fond memories of Edy and I...but

they are just

memories...because Dr. R ruined the hell out of my relationship with Edy's!

Painfully thin in land

> ** Original Subject: RE: HELP....I need some advice

> **

> ** Original Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:22:38 -0400

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July 19th and

> usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad craving for

> chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then a week

> before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie sundae on

> the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time again and

> I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know how to

> handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the surgery

> but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you think with

> a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8 feet from me

> but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please let me

> know what I can do. Thanks

> Joyce in KY

> MGB--July 19, 2000

>

>

>

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Florence Ballengee

Hollywood, land

florence@...

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Joyce:

I know from Diets in the past that there may be two solutions.

1) Get some sure free hard candy and suck on it (chocolate flavor of

course)

2) There are some spray " flavorings " that you can buy and just spray in

your mouth when you " get the craving " .... I think you can get these at

most health food stores.

Good Luck

Joannie

Irving, Tx

RobandJoyplus4@... wrote:

> OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July

> 19th and

> usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad

> craving for

> chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then a

> week

> before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie

> sundae on

> the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time

> again and

> I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know how

> to

> handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the

> surgery

> but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you

> think with

> a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8 feet

> from me

> but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please

> let me

> know what I can do. Thanks

> Joyce in KY

> MGB--July 19, 2000

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jan ston wrote:

>

> what is the difference between the RYN and MGB?

The RNY creates a tiny bird-sized pouch at the end of your esophagus

(cutting away just about all of your stomach). This is done up high,

near the aorta, so it is a dangerous operation for that reason alone,

whereas the MGB creates a smaller stomach by trimming down the stomach

itself to a much smaller size.

The MGB requires only one new attachment of intestine after 6 feet is

bypassed, whereas the RNY requires two attachments. This means you have

a much greater chance of a leak (which is one of the most dangerous

complications you could get), as well as future bowel obstructions.

Read Dr. Rutledge's professional paper (covering 657 patients and

several procedures) for a whole lot of other comparisons that show the

RNY has greater complications, lower weight loss, much longer recovery

times, is virtually impossible to reverse if it ever goes wrong, etc.

http://www.clos.net/mgb-paper/MGB-Paper061300.htm

To see pictures of what the incisions and scars look like, go to my

page:

http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/whymgb.htm

> RE: HELP....I need some advice

> >> > **

> >> > ** Original Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:22:38 -0400

> >>

> >> > ** Original Message follows...

> >>

> >> >

> >> > OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July 19th

> and

> >> > usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad

> craving for

> >> > chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then a

> week

> >> > before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie sundae

> on

> >> > the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time

> again and

> >> > I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know how

> to

> >> > handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the

> surgery

> >> > but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you

> think with

> >> > a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8 feet

> from me

> >> > but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please

> let me

> >> > know what I can do. Thanks

> >> > Joyce in KY

> >> > MGB--July 19, 2000

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

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> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >> Florence Ballengee

> >> Hollywood, land

> >> florence@...

> >>

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> >>

> >

> >

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Just out of curiosity, why would you do either of these, rather than eat

the chocolate? I don't get the point?

Kind regards,

hojo.lee@... wrote:

>

> Joyce:

>

> I know from Diets in the past that there may be two solutions.

> 1) Get some sure free hard candy and suck on it (chocolate flavor of

> course)

> 2) There are some spray " flavorings " that you can buy and just spray in

> your mouth when you " get the craving " .... I think you can get these at

> most health food stores.

>

> Good Luck

>

> Joannie

> Irving, Tx

>

> RobandJoyplus4@... wrote:

>

> > OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July

> > 19th and

> > usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad

> > craving for

> > chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then a

> > week

> > before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie

> > sundae on

> > the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time

> > again and

> > I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know how

> > to

> > handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the

> > surgery

> > but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you

> > think with

> > a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8 feet

> > from me

> > but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please

> > let me

> > know what I can do. Thanks

> > Joyce in KY

> > MGB--July 19, 2000

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

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>

>

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Jan ston wrote:

>

> I looked at your webpage - I can see why you picked the MGB!

Please don't take my word for it, though. The more you find out, the

better, from *every* possible source.

Go to any search engine and type in " gastric bypass " and start reading

all the websites, medical reports, journal articles, and patient

accounts about all the different weight loss procedures available. I

did that for *months.* I'm still doing it, because I don't want to tell

somebody wrong.

In my research, I found that there just really are no facts, studies,

statistics, pictures, or any thing else that demonstrate that any

procedure is as safe, effective, or as easy to undergo, as the MGB, but

it could happen that you find something I didn't. If you do, please

share!

Arm yourself with all the facts you can find about every procedure that

sounds even remotely promising, then compare them side by side.

Knowledge is power and in this case, it's your *life* we're talking

about here, so you can't learn too much about the procedure(s) -- get

all you can!

One thing this group is full of is people who want *facts* and lots of

them. This is a great place to raise questions and discuss what you

find.

Kind regards,

> RE: HELP....I need some

> advice

> >> >> > **

> >> >> > ** Original Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:22:38 -0400

> >> >>

> >> >> > ** Original Message follows...

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> > OK here is what I need advice for---------I had my surgery on July

> 19th

> >> and

> >> >> > usually about a week before my time of the month I get really bad

> >> craving for

> >> >> > chocolate. I did have that before I had surgery which was less then

> a

> >> week

> >> >> > before my time of the month but I took care of it with a Brownie

> sundae

> >> on

> >> >> > the Monday night before my Wednesday surgery but now its that time

> >> again and

> >> >> > I feel the need for chocolate NOW!!!! grrrrrr I just don't know

> how

> >> to

> >> >> > handle this sweet craving that I was hoping would be gone with the

> >> surgery

> >> >> > but Dr.R forgot my sweet tooth while he was working on me (and you

> >> think with

> >> >> > a 2 hour surgery he would have remember that along with taking 8

> feet

> >> from me

> >> >> > but he didn't do that either) So if anyone has any suggestion please

> >> let me

> >> >> > know what I can do. Thanks

> >> >> > Joyce in KY

> >> >> > MGB--July 19, 2000

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

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> >> >> Hollywood, land

> >> >> florence@...

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