gallbladder surgery and CP

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I have been discussing GallBladder Surgery and CP with my husbands

aunt who is a retired nurse. She doesn't remember encoutering so many

CP patients in her nursing career when they did the GB with the scar

and not laproscopically (sp).

So we'd like to know who got CP after having the gb surgery the

keyhole way? Who got CP because of GB period? And does any of the

nurses remember there being more CP cases before they chaged the GB

proceedure from the scar to the keyhole way?

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Sandy

California

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>>>>>>She doesn't remember encoutering so many CP patients in her

nursing career when they did the GB with the scar and not

laproscopically So we'd like to know who got CP after having the gb

surgery the keyhole way? Who got CP because of GB period? And

does any of the nurses remember there being more CP cases before they

changed the GB procedure from the scar to the keyhole way?<<<<<<<<

Hi Sandy,

I have not posted for a while, but thought I would chime in to say I

agree with your observations. I had a Lap Chole(ie Keyhole surgery)

in 1992. Three weeks later I had my first episode of Pancreatitis.

Since then I have been thru 9-12 (lost count) ERCP's, many stents,

exploratory abdominal surgery where the " ducts were reworked, " PICC

Lines, PICC line Sepsis, Central Line, TPN, I could go on & on. I

had a GI doc who was frustrated that I could not get well, so

it " must be you " he told me. Being blamed for being sick, made me go

thru 5 years of pain, pain, and more pain...untreated of course. I

finally had to be admitted for Pancreatitis because I was so sick,

and had such out of whack lab results. That GI doc was nice again,

said there had been more studies, blah, blah, blah. He was believing

I was truly sick after all. 1 1/2 years later he again gave up on me

after a pancreatic duct sphincterotomy did not cure me...so again, it

must be my fault. We actually got into an argument, because I was

FINALLY having proper pain management at this point...so he

blamed " the drugs. " Not the " medication, " but " the drugs. " It did

not matter that the majority of my Pancreatitis attacks happened

without me being on pain meds, or " drugs. " The last straw with that

GI doc was when he blamed me after being admitted with pain, and

joint swelling...he basically accused me of making myself sick. He

said " all that swelling, I don't know what that is all about. "

Luckily I have a wonderful family doc who sent me to a

Rheumatologist...and I was diagnosed with an Autoimmune

Disease...Lupus. So I had now MADE MYSELF have Pancreatitis and

Lupus!! I mean, everyone wants to have those 2 diseases!!! That GI

doc is no longer my doc, and he was only my doc for that long due to

my limited choice HMO and the limited amount of GI docs that can do a

decent ERCP. My feeling is that all those years of being sick with

Pancreatitis, untreated, and pain, pain, and pain....that my body

started fighting itself...and that is why I now have an Autoimmune

disease.

So Sandy (and ), our stories are NOT unusual, and are more

frequent than the docs would like to admit. There are some studies

being done, but not enough!! I have met people, in person and on-

line, that have similar stories. In addition, I am an RN, and I have

met quite a few RN's with CP and some type of autoimmune disease.

At this point in my life the Lupus affects me more that the CP. I am

on Methotrexate, and that helps me feel a bit better at least 2-3

days a week. I will never be the same, and to think that same day

gallbladder surgery started it all overwhelms me!!

Never, never go into ANY surgery thinking " it's a simple same day

surgery " ....it may change your life forever!!

Hope this info helps....Take Care, Debbie, California

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Hi

I had gallbladder surgery on 1/19/02 and was admitted in March 2002 with an

Acute Pan attack. Ended up having an ercp and was found to have CP. Now the

doctors are saying it is due to alcohol. How can they tell if it is due to

alcohol?

Patty

Louisville, KY

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Hi,

They can't. If a patient does have a drinking problem or consumes

large quantities of alcohol and informs the doctors of this then the

doctors can make this diagnosis with reasonable certainity. Also they

can find signs of damage to other organs that support a diagnosis of

alcoholic pancreatitis (cirhosis of the liver, etc...). But to make a

definitive diagnosis the patient has to disclose a history of drinking.

Doctors will make this diagnosis in every case that is not caused by

gallstones unless the patients stick up for themselves. If you do not

drink you have to make it very clear to the doctors. Everyone who has

ever had a pancreatitis attack and have gone to the ER for treatment

know that the first thing a doctor is going to do is ask you how much

you have had to drink.

Hope this helps,

Bert

> Hi

> I had gallbladder surgery on 1/19/02 and was admitted in March 2002

with an

> Acute Pan attack. Ended up having an ercp and was found to have CP.

Now the

> doctors are saying it is due to alcohol. How can they tell if it is

due to

> alcohol?

> Patty

> Louisville, KY

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