Re: GAPS diet what do you think?

[Guest guest]

Helen,

GAPS is a different diet than SCD.

Many feel it " is " SCD... with improvements. Unfortunately, this particular

listserve was set up to support the original, traditional SCD, and really needs

to continue doing that at this point. So, to answer your question, no... SCD

itself has not " broadened out " to include GAPS.

In many ways, the CONCEPTS behind SCD seem to be present in GAPS.... and

honestly, not having read the book myself, I can't compare the two fairly. I'm

not sure that would be appropriate on this list anyway.

It might be a good diet, but pecanbread has not.... at this point, anyway....

become an SCD/GAPS list. Hopefully, there are other lists out there that discuss

GAPS. I know Jody is reading the book right now but the bottom-line " approval "

of any new additions or " improvements " to the original SCD (trademarked by

Elaine Gottschall) has to come from Elaine's daughter, who holds all the rights

to SCD.

Patti

GAPS diet what do you think?

Hi All,

I have not been online for a while and am just coming back to SCD with my son.

Does anyone have any feedback on the GAPs diet by Dr Natasha McBride.

She came to speak at the MINDD conference in Sydney Australia and has got quite

a few purcharing her book to follow the GAPS diet basically SCD but with some

variations particularly in the biokult probiotics don't need to be refrigerated

in very high doses and lots of strains, not so much yoghurt but heaps of

fermented foods and kefir also much less cakes and lots of meat fats. That's

what I heard anyway. I remember some discussion on this some months ago, and was

surprised when my biomed doctor has recommended it now for my son and other

children. She also has her child on it too. What do you think of it compared to

straight SCD, as that is what I would prefer to come back to or has SCD

broadened out now to include this GAPS diet??

Regards

Helen

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[Guest guest]

Dr. praises SCD but suggests some protocols that do not comply

with the original SCD. There are also differences in our permitted

fermented foods and what Kefir can be made of. On SCD Kefir is for

advanced use.

Mimi posted excellent suggestions yesterday for the most effective ways

to follow SCD and cautioned against early and excessive use of nuts and

nut flour baked goods.

Sorry, Helen but we swear by our yogurt for those who are able to

tolerate it as it really seems to help with brain and gut function.

SCD has not been " broadened " beyond the autism adjustments although

some people continue to monkey with it. It is not mandatory to include

all legal SCD foods in the diet but balance and variety are

recommended. Elaine wanted us to strive for a well rounded diet.

> Hi All,

> I have not been online for a while and am just coming back to SCD with

> my son. Does anyone have any feedback on the GAPs diet by Dr Natasha

> McBride. She came to speak at the MINDD conference in Sydney

> Australia and has got quite a few purcharing her book to follow the

> GAPS diet basically SCD but with some variations particularly in the

> biokult probiotics don't need to be refrigerated in very high doses

> and lots of strains, not so much yoghurt but heaps of fermented foods

> and kefir also much less cakes and lots of meat fats. That's what I

> heard anyway. I remember some discussion on this some months ago, and

> was surprised when my biomed doctor has recommended it now for my son

> and other children. She also has her child on it too. What do you

> think of it compared to straight SCD, as that is what I would prefer

> to come back to or has SCD broadened out now to include this GAPS

> diet??

>

Carol F.

Toronto, celiac, SCD 6 years

[Guest guest]

I have personaly read the book by Dr. Haas that Elaine quotes in BTVC. He was

the originator of the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and after much testing and

experimenting back in the 30's he came up with a very good way to heal sick kids

with gut problems.

The problem with GAPS is that she adds probiotics and things that they have

already discovered from long ago that do not work. She claims that Bifidus is

OK. You see Dr. Haas and Elaine learned that Bifidus, although a good gut guy

in normal numbers...when the gut falls into a vicious cycle, especially with our

young children, this good guys become to high in numbers and becomes a bad guy.

If you take more of it by supplementing with what Elaine would call " illegal "

probiotics, this little bit of a change in SCD ruins the rate of success of the

SCD TM diet.

Hope this helps our concerns with changes to SCD TM, Antoinette (celiac) and

mother to KiKi (autistic celiac) SCD 2/06

[Guest guest]

The very " improvements " in this GAPS book, is causing people to not have SCD TM

success. Although GAPS explains things very well to why people suffer from

psychological and neurological issues because of the vicious cycle. Yet, I

would be very leery of any suggestions that go against what Elaine told us. If

you read BTVC book you will see the contradictions. The biggest " infraction "

that Gaps suggest is the use of Bifiidus, this is illegal in the SCD TM diet and

can cause serious problems in breaking the vicious cycle. Elaine did much

research in this area, please do search to see why Elaine said this, on her web

site. I personally would stick with what has worked for 60 years.

Please go to:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm<http://www\

..breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm>

Antoinette SCD 2/06