Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 AWESOME! I'll definitely make a list of these things and present it to them. Would print it out but think I should probably edit a little!! Don't want to get their hackles up too much. However this makes me wonder where they've been. They're an accredited CF center and should know these things. What sort of document or something from a doctor could I show them? Does the NIH have a site or anything published on this? I believe you and what you're saying makes terrific sense to me but Abby's doctors need to know about this if I plan to do it and if it's this " for real " then they REALLY need to know about it anyway - for their other CF patients. Thanks Kim, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 Hey Joe, I used to live in Gainesville, and U of F has a really good med school. My mom was a cardiac ICU nurse at Shands while my dad finished his bachelors and masters degrees at U of F. Dad still sends me articles from his alumni newsletter whenever he finds something they're studying about CF. But just because Shands has an " accredited " CF Center doesn't mean they know everything. Accredited by whom -- the CFF, AHA or JCAHO? CF Centers are at the whim of the CFF because the CFF funds them. So, if you want broader prospectives, you often have to look outside. I am *not* saying that the people who work at CF Centers don't care -- I *am* saying often their hands are tied. They must follow CFF rules and regs or risk losing CFF funding. (Well, okay, and sometimes there are doctors and other staff who just don't care to have parents showing signs of intelligence...) Which is a big part of the reason my son's pulmonary doctor finally threw up his hands and walked away as director of our CF Center and opened his own private practice. Five years later, the CFF CEO had the nerve to bad-mouth our doctor to my face -- carping about how our doctor left the Center so they had to find a new director, and carping because some of the patients left the Center to follow the doc into private practice. Like gee, how dare our doctor follow his convictions, and how dare patients make a choice in CF care.) Did you know that just because your child has CF doesn't mean you MUST attend a CF Center? You're free to go wherever you want to go for care. You can find good pediatric pulmonologists, gastroenterologists, pediatricians, allergists, ENTs, nutritionists, etc. and work alongside them -- teaching each other about CF. Good doctors exist outside of " accredited " CF Centers, and any good doctor should rise to the occasion to work with patients and family. The nice thing of not going to a CF Center is not being exposed to a concentrated roomful of bacteria. Once we left the CF Center, my son stopped getting sick. When we used to go to clinic, he'd come home and within 48-hours ended up on antibiotics. But that stopped once we started seeing his doctor in private practice. Kim AWESOME! I'll definitely make a list of these things and present it to them. Would print it out but think I should probably edit a little!! Don't want to get their hackles up too much. However this makes me wonder where they've been. They're an accredited CF center and should know these things. What sort of document or something from a doctor could I show them? Does the NIH have a site or anything published on this? I believe you and what you're saying makes terrific sense to me but Abby's doctors need to know about this if I plan to do it and if it's this " for real " then they REALLY need to know about it anyway - for their other CF patients. Thanks Kim, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 Oops, I got carried away and completely forgot to respond to your request. Can you remind me which magnesium info I already sent you? (Did I privately send you anything?). I've been working on a paper to submit these findings to CF specialists; some stuff I've already sent to doctors that requested info. It's interesting that doctors most willing to listen -- and most comprehending of the implications of magnesium deficiency once they read the evidence -- are doctors *not* affiliated with CF. I'm not sure why. For starters, here's the NIH website. This is an ebook that you can print out to read all about magnesium. Additionally, since January 2001, I've collected about a gazillion research abstracts, articles, and web sites. (Probably a lot more than what your doctor has collected about magnesium.) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/etext/000105.html From this link, you can also read about other elemental minerals and vitamins. I really recommend this site. Please keep in mind this ebook is not specific to CF -- but that doesn't diminish its value. Using what you know about CF symptoms, you should be able to put the puzzle pieces together, especially in terms of bone health and inflammation. I've long believed that one reason many CF medical caregivers, parents of pwcf, and pwcf have trouble accepting " new " information is that they want to see the words " cystic fibrosis " specifcally attached to the info. That's a very dangerous, narrow-focused stance to take. What I mean is, Abby isn't CF -- she's a little girl with a disease that causes a myriad of problems that are often seen in the non-CF population. So why constantly reinvent the wheel? Often when you research other diseases, deficiencies, etc., you find tried and true ways to solve some of the problems seen in CF. Again, take note of all the glitzy pharmaceutical ads on TV and in magazines. Products intended to alleviate depression, anxiety, headaches, muscle soreness, migraines, insomnia, arthritis, asthma, osteoporosis, diabetes, PMS, reflux, indigestion, high cholesterol, hypertension, impotence, hair loss... Did you know that one of the ingredients in Pepcid Complete is magnesium? And Milk of Magnesia is magnesium. And guess what's in that new little purple pill, Nexum? Yep, it's a form of magnesium. Just knowing that magnesium is a factor in over 300 enzymatic actions of the body, is the fourth most abundant mineral in the body, and the second most abundation cation in the body -- and knowing that studies show Americans aren't getting even the minimum daily requirement of magnesium -- wouldn't you rather give your body what's it's missing instead of taking a med that only treats symptoms but does nothing to correct the problem? But again, not all magnesiums are created equal, and even a lot of doctors don't know this... yet. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 Kim, That is exactly what we did, we went elsewhere. We went to the a CF center here in Memphis only once, I hope and pray to God that I never have to place a foot in there, we had THE WORST EXPERIENCE in that place. I feel for those who settle so short or who may not know that you do have a choice, even if you have to fight it. It makes a lot of sense what you are saying now. I blamed it on the doc who saw a, I still do, but I did not make the connection between the cystic fibrosis foundation and the poor care that we received, very sad, indeed. Boy that man made sure we signed those papers for the foundation before we left, very little information, otherwise. Love, mom of a 9 wcf, Venanzio 6 nocf, Pepe 3 nocf. > > AWESOME! I'll definitely make a list of these things and present it > to them. Would print it out but think I should probably edit a > little!! Don't want to get their hackles up too much. However this > makes me wonder where they've been. They're an accredited CF center > and should know these things. What sort of document or something > from a doctor could I show them? Does the NIH have a site or > anything published on this? I believe you and what you're saying > makes terrific sense to me but Abby's doctors need to know about > this if I plan to do it and if it's this " for real " then they REALLY > need to know about it anyway - for their other CF patients. > > Thanks Kim, > > Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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