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Hi,

I have been an inactive participant for about 3 months in this

community, but have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the tips about SCD. I

have a question: I have been making my own yogurt, but am wondering if you

can use the yogurt past the due date of the milk. In other words, if the

milk expired Jan. 30 but I just made a batch with it, can I continue to eat

the yogurt made from the milk for two to three weeks? I have heard that the

yogurt lasts only about 3 weeks, is this true?

You are all a wealth of information and I really appreciate being able

to learn from your knowledge.

Thanks,

Pam

SIBO, 4 mths

SCD, 3 months

From: <BTVC-SCD >

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:55 PM

To: <BTVC-SCD >

Subject: Digest Number 1824

> There are 25 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1a. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> From: Debbie

> 1b. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> From: jschneider

> 1c. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> From: Stacey

>

> 2a. Re: Black Beans

> From: Debbie

> 2b. Re: Black Beans

> From: mcmimers

> 2c. Re: Black Beans

> From: Wizop Marilyn L. Alm

> 2d. Re: Black Beans

> From: Debbie

> 2e. Re: Black Beans

> From: Debbie

> 2f. Re: Black Beans

> From: Baker

>

> 3. Re: Hi

> From: Amelia Bhide

>

> 4a. Re: RE Just read the BTVC

> From: Amelia Bhide

>

> 5a. Re: Omega 3

> From: GraceAcademyTX@...

>

> 6. Suggestions for brand of food processor

> From: dontlikemeds

>

> 7a. Re: Nutbags for straining.

> From: Stacey

> 7b. Re: Nutbags for straining.

> From: T

> 7c. Re: Nutbags for straining.

> From: Mara Schiffren

>

> 8a. Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Holly

> 8b. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Mara Schiffren

> 8c. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Holly Owens

> 8d. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Mara Schiffren

>

> 9a. Choosing Life

> From: Llemar Nicholson

> 9b. Re: Choosing Life

> From: Baker

>

> 10a. Re: Problems w/ receiving emails?

> From: fruit_is_good

>

> 11a. I have osteoporosis

> From: fruit_is_good

> 11b. Re: I have osteoporosis

> From: Debbie

>

>

> Messages

> ________________________________________________________________________

> 1a. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> Posted by: " Debbie " texdebl@... restful07

> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:13 am ((PST))

>

> Since I was dx'd I've taken Nexium and Protonix. There's something

> new with dual action (I'll have to check the name though). Protonix

> is the best.

>

> After my first and second scopes, my GI had me taking 4 per day to

> make sure any biopsies healed completely.

>

> Even if you do not want to take them long-term, it's up to you and

> your doctor, but I would take them if prescribed to heal any erosions,

> ulcers, etc. Whatever it turns out to be really needs to get

> completely healed. Do you have Crohn's Disease?

>

> I rarely needed them on SCD if that helps at all. I didn't do

> 'really' spicy either.

>

> Just my two cents.

>

> Debbie

>

>

>> I had an upper endoscopy today (because of esophageal pain when I swallow

>> large supplements) and it showed inflammation in the esophagus and

>> stomach.

>> I'll have to wait for the biopsy results for more clues about the cause.

>> Anyway, my GI prescribed a proton pump inhibitor called AcipHex. I'm

>> thinking I don't really want to reduce stomach acid because it's

>> important

>> for digestion and absorption of nutrients, and it helps kill off various

>> germs. Has anyone been using meds like this? Or is there some other way

>> to

>> deal with esophagitis/gastritis?

>>

>> Debbie T (UC 29 yrs, SCD 10/06, Lialda)

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

> Messages in this topic (4)

> ________________________________________________________________________

> 1b. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> Posted by: " jschneider " julie.a.schneider@...

> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:31 am ((PST))

>

> I went through a 12-week course of Prilosec to heal some ulcerations and

> mild acid reflux. I find that if I avoid or minimize overly acidic foods

> like lemon, vinegar, etc. and do some of the lifestyle changes for acid

> reflux like not lying down after eating, etc., that I rarely get acid

> reflux

> anymore and that usually a one-time dose of Pepcid or Prilosec gets me

> back

> on track. Google " acid reflux lifestyle changes " for what you can do to

> minimize acid reflux.

>

> It was definitely worth it to heal the issues, though, inflammation

> shouldn't continue unchecked or it can cause more problems.

>

> --

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

> Messages in this topic (4)

> ________________________________________________________________________

> 1c. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> Posted by: " Stacey " graciegelfling@... graciegelfling

> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:05 am ((PST))

>

> Totally random side note to this post:

> Every time I hear the commercial for AcipHex, my first thought is " why

> would they name a medication 'a$$ effects'?! "

>

> I don't have a solution for you, but obviously you do need to be careful

> with stuff like that. It takes over your body's natural ability to reduce

> acid. If you're on it too long, your body stops being able to fix it on

> its own. I'm currently trying to get myself off of ranitidine (zantac),

> but it's a long process because my body has to relearn how to do certain

> things :)

> Stacey

>

>

>> Well, I definitely do have osteoporosis. The endocrinologist double

>> checked

>> the bone density scan and it's accurate, unfortunately. I'll get through

>> it

>> though! Just figured I'd keep you guys updated.

>>

>> Alyssa =)

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

> Messages in this topic (2)

>

>

>

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Hi Pam

I did actually this. I looked up how long milk lasts for past its expiry date. It is said that milk can last up to another 6 days if it is at the right temps. I have used my milk 3 days past the expiry and had no problem. Yoghurt can last 3 weeks but you are not getting much probiotics by then.I usually eat mine in a week knowing that I have the full benefit of fresh probiotics. I only make 2 liters at a time.

Sky

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, 30 January, 2010 9:11:28 AMSubject: Re: Digest Number 1824

Hi,I have been an inactive participant for about 3 months in this community, but have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the tips about SCD. I have a question: I have been making my own yogurt, but am wondering if you can use the yogurt past the due date of the milk. In other words, if the milk expired Jan. 30 but I just made a batch with it, can I continue to eat the yogurt made from the milk for two to three weeks? I have heard that the yogurt lasts only about 3 weeks, is this true?You are all a wealth of information and I really appreciate being able to learn from your knowledge.Thanks,PamSIBO, 4 mthsSCD, 3 months

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Pam,I think I remember a label on milk stating that it was good for one week past the expiry date if unopened. Once it has been made into yogurt, it should last like regular yogurt because all the properties changed during the process. I don't think it is a good idea to do this regularly. Milk is so pasteurized these days that milk doesn't just sour liked it used to, it more like rots instead--at least soured milk had a use! I agree with Sky, there isn't much benefit left to the yogurt if you leave it for the 3 weeks though. I don't recommend past 2 weeks, really, but we go through 4.5 liters every 3-4 days in our house, so it isn't a problem! ; )AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 11:11:28 PMSubject: Re: Digest Number 1824

Hi,

I have been an inactive participant for about 3 months in this

community, but have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the tips about SCD. I

have a question: I have been making my own yogurt, but am wondering if you

can use the yogurt past the due date of the milk. In other words, if the

milk expired Jan. 30 but I just made a batch with it, can I continue to eat

the yogurt made from the milk for two to three weeks? I have heard that the

yogurt lasts only about 3 weeks, is this true?

You are all a wealth of information and I really appreciate being able

to learn from your knowledge.

Thanks,

Pam

SIBO, 4 mths

SCD, 3 months

From: <BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com>

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:55 PM

To: <BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com>

Subject: Digest Number 1824

> There are 25 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1a. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> From: Debbie

> 1b. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> From: jschneider

> 1c. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> From: Stacey

>

> 2a. Re: Black Beans

> From: Debbie

> 2b. Re: Black Beans

> From: mcmimers

> 2c. Re: Black Beans

> From: Wizop Marilyn L. Alm

> 2d. Re: Black Beans

> From: Debbie

> 2e. Re: Black Beans

> From: Debbie

> 2f. Re: Black Beans

> From: Baker

>

> 3. Re: Hi

> From: Amelia Bhide

>

> 4a. Re: RE Just read the BTVC

> From: Amelia Bhide

>

> 5a. Re: Omega 3

> From: GraceAcademyTX@ aol.com

>

> 6. Suggestions for brand of food processor

> From: dontlikemeds

>

> 7a. Re: Nutbags for straining.

> From: Stacey

> 7b. Re: Nutbags for straining.

> From: T

> 7c. Re: Nutbags for straining.

> From: Mara Schiffren

>

> 8a. Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Holly

> 8b. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Mara Schiffren

> 8c. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Holly Owens

> 8d. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts

> From: Mara Schiffren

>

> 9a. Choosing Life

> From: Llemar Nicholson

> 9b. Re: Choosing Life

> From: Baker

>

> 10a. Re: Problems w/ receiving emails?

> From: fruit_is_good

>

> 11a. I have osteoporosis

> From: fruit_is_good

> 11b. Re: I have osteoporosis

> From: Debbie

>

>

> Messages

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> 1a. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> Posted by: "Debbie" texdebl (AT) gmail (DOT) com restful07

> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:13 am ((PST))

>

> Since I was dx'd I've taken Nexium and Protonix. There's something

> new with dual action (I'll have to check the name though). Protonix

> is the best.

>

> After my first and second scopes, my GI had me taking 4 per day to

> make sure any biopsies healed completely.

>

> Even if you do not want to take them long-term, it's up to you and

> your doctor, but I would take them if prescribed to heal any erosions,

> ulcers, etc. Whatever it turns out to be really needs to get

> completely healed. Do you have Crohn's Disease?

>

> I rarely needed them on SCD if that helps at all. I didn't do

> 'really' spicy either.

>

> Just my two cents.

>

> Debbie

>

> On 1/28/10, debbietenenbaum <DebbieTenenbaum@ aol.com> wrote:

>> I had an upper endoscopy today (because of esophageal pain when I swallow

>> large supplements) and it showed inflammation in the esophagus and

>> stomach.

>> I'll have to wait for the biopsy results for more clues about the cause.

>> Anyway, my GI prescribed a proton pump inhibitor called AcipHex. I'm

>> thinking I don't really want to reduce stomach acid because it's

>> important

>> for digestion and absorption of nutrients, and it helps kill off various

>> germs. Has anyone been using meds like this? Or is there some other way

>> to

>> deal with esophagitis/ gastritis?

>>

>> Debbie T (UC 29 yrs, SCD 10/06, Lialda)

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

> Messages in this topic (4)

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> 1b. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> Posted by: "jschneider" julie.a.schneider@ gmail.com

> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:31 am ((PST))

>

> I went through a 12-week course of Prilosec to heal some ulcerations and

> mild acid reflux. I find that if I avoid or minimize overly acidic foods

> like lemon, vinegar, etc. and do some of the lifestyle changes for acid

> reflux like not lying down after eating, etc., that I rarely get acid

> reflux

> anymore and that usually a one-time dose of Pepcid or Prilosec gets me

> back

> on track. Google "acid reflux lifestyle changes" for what you can do to

> minimize acid reflux.

>

> It was definitely worth it to heal the issues, though, inflammation

> shouldn't continue unchecked or it can cause more problems.

>

> --

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

> Messages in this topic (4)

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> 1c. Re: Acid-reflux medicine

> Posted by: "Stacey" graciegelfling@ yahoo.com graciegelfling

> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:05 am ((PST))

>

> Totally random side note to this post:

> Every time I hear the commercial for AcipHex, my first thought is "why

> would they name a medication 'a$$ effects'?!"

>

> I don't have a solution for you, but obviously you do need to be careful

> with stuff like that. It takes over your body's natural ability to reduce

> acid. If you're on it too long, your body stops being able to fix it on

> its own. I'm currently trying to get myself off of ranitidine (zantac),

> but it's a long process because my body has to relearn how to do certain

> things :)

> Stacey

>

>

>> Well, I definitely do have osteoporosis. The endocrinologist double

>> checked

>> the bone density scan and it's accurate, unfortunately. I'll get through

>> it

>> though! Just figured I'd keep you guys updated.

>>

>> Alyssa =)

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

> Messages in this topic (2)

>

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>

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If you're going to buy pasteurized milk (unfortunately, I have to do it too due to laws), you can at least get unhomogenized, non-ultra pasteurized milk at a place like Whole Foods. The brand I buy is Sparkman's, but they have more than one kind, so make sure the label reads what you want (I buy unhomogenized).

By the way, if you're ever in South Carolina , I called a Whole Foods store there, and the lady who answered said they do have raw milk there, but it goes fast. I've never bought it from there though. Apparently, raw milk is still legal in that state, but I don't think raw milk cheese is. Raw milk is illegal in the state where I live, but raw milk cheese that has been aged more than 60 days is legal. I don't know the reasoning for these laws.

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:56:19 AMSubject: Re: Digest Number 1824

Pam,I think I remember a label on milk stating that it was good for one week past the expiry date if unopened. Once it has been made into yogurt, it should last like regular yogurt because all the properties changed during the process. I don't think it is a good idea to do this regularly. Milk is so pasteurized these days that milk doesn't just sour liked it used to, it more like rots instead--at least soured milk had a use! I agree with Sky, there isn't much benefit left to the yogurt if you leave it for the 3 weeks though. I don't recommend past 2 weeks, really, but we go through 4.5 liters every 3-4 days in our house, so it isn't a problem! ; )Amelia

From: Pam Hopmann <pam52 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.comSent: Fri, January 29, 2010 11:11:28 PMSubject: Re: Digest Number 1824

Hi,I have been an inactive participant for about 3 months in this community, but have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the tips about SCD. I have a question: I have been making my own yogurt, but am wondering if you can use the yogurt past the due date of the milk. In other words, if the milk expired Jan. 30 but I just made a batch with it, can I continue to eat the yogurt made from the milk for two to three weeks? I have heard that the yogurt lasts only about 3 weeks, is this true?You are all a wealth of information and I really appreciate being able to learn from your knowledge.Thanks,PamSIBO, 4 mthsSCD, 3 monthsFrom: <BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com>Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:55 PMTo: <BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com>Subject: Digest Number 1824> There are 25 messages in this issue.>> Topics in this digest:>> 1a. Re: Acid-reflux medicine> From: Debbie> 1b. Re: Acid-reflux medicine> From: jschneider> 1c. Re: Acid-reflux medicine> From: Stacey>> 2a. Re: Black Beans> From: Debbie> 2b. Re: Black Beans> From: mcmimers> 2c. Re: Black Beans> From: Wizop Marilyn L. Alm> 2d. Re: Black Beans> From: Debbie> 2e. Re: Black Beans> From: Debbie> 2f. Re: Black Beans> From: Baker>> 3. Re: Hi> From: Amelia Bhide>> 4a. Re: RE Just read the BTVC> From: Amelia Bhide>> 5a. Re: Omega 3> From: GraceAcademyTX@ aol.com>> 6. Suggestions for brand of food processor> From: dontlikemeds>> 7a. Re: Nutbags for straining.> From: Stacey> 7b. Re: Nutbags for straining.> From: T> 7c. Re: Nutbags for straining.> From: Mara Schiffren>> 8a. Marinated Brussel Sprouts> From: Holly> 8b. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts> From: Mara Schiffren> 8c. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts> From: Holly Owens> 8d. Re: Marinated Brussel Sprouts> From: Mara Schiffren>> 9a. Choosing Life> From: Llemar Nicholson> 9b. Re: Choosing Life> From: Baker>> 10a. Re: Problems w/ receiving emails?> From: fruit_is_good>> 11a. I have osteoporosis> From: fruit_is_good> 11b. Re: I have osteoporosis> From:

Debbie>>> Messages> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> 1a. Re: Acid-reflux medicine> Posted by: "Debbie" texdebl (AT) gmail (DOT) com restful07> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:13 am ((PST))>> Since I was dx'd I've taken Nexium and Protonix. There's something> new with dual action (I'll have to check the name though). Protonix> is the best.>> After my first and second scopes, my GI had me taking 4 per day to> make sure any biopsies healed completely.>> Even if you do not want to take them long-term, it's up to you and> your doctor, but I would take them if prescribed to heal any erosions,> ulcers, etc. Whatever it turns out to be really needs to get> completely healed. Do you have Crohn's

Disease?>> I rarely needed them on SCD if that helps at all. I didn't do> 'really' spicy either.>> Just my two cents.>> Debbie>> On 1/28/10, debbietenenbaum <DebbieTenenbaum@ aol.com> wrote:>> I had an upper endoscopy today (because of esophageal pain when I swallow>> large supplements) and it showed inflammation in the esophagus and >> stomach.>> I'll have to wait for the biopsy results for more clues about the cause.>> Anyway, my GI prescribed a proton pump inhibitor called AcipHex. I'm>> thinking I don't really want to reduce stomach acid because it's >> important>> for digestion and absorption of nutrients, and it helps kill off various>> germs. Has anyone been using meds like

this? Or is there some other way >> to>> deal with esophagitis/ gastritis?>>>> Debbie T (UC 29 yrs, SCD 10/06, Lialda)>>>>>>>>>> Messages in this topic (4)> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> 1b. Re: Acid-reflux medicine> Posted by: "jschneider" julie.a.schneider@ gmail.com> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:31 am ((PST))>> I went through a 12-week course of Prilosec to heal some ulcerations and> mild acid reflux. I find that if I avoid or minimize overly acidic foods> like lemon, vinegar, etc. and do some of the lifestyle changes for acid> reflux like not lying down after eating, etc., that I rarely get acid > reflux> anymore and

that usually a one-time dose of Pepcid or Prilosec gets me > back> on track. Google "acid reflux lifestyle changes" for what you can do to> minimize acid reflux.>> It was definitely worth it to heal the issues, though, inflammation> shouldn't continue unchecked or it can cause more problems.>> -->>>>>>>>> Messages in this topic (4)> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> 1c. Re: Acid-reflux medicine> Posted by: "Stacey" graciegelfling@ yahoo.com graciegelfling> Date: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:05 am ((PST))>> Totally random side note to this post:> Every time I hear the commercial for AcipHex, my first thought is "why > would they name a medication

'a$$ effects'?!">> I don't have a solution for you, but obviously you do need to be careful > with stuff like that. It takes over your body's natural ability to reduce > acid. If you're on it too long, your body stops being able to fix it on > its own. I'm currently trying to get myself off of ranitidine (zantac), > but it's a long process because my body has to relearn how to do certain > things :)> Stacey>> >> Well, I definitely do have osteoporosis. The endocrinologist double >> checked>> the bone density scan and it's accurate, unfortunately. I'll get through >> it>> though! Just figured I'd keep you guys updated.>>>> Alyssa =)>>>>>>>>>> Messages in this topic (2)>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ->

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