Re: Liver - vegetarianism post-wls

[Guest guest]

--On Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:39 PM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

wrote:

> sometimes I think I am

> moving towards a vegetarian thing since I get almost all protein via

> supps,,,,,but NEVER and organ stuff,,,,,yeckkkkkkkkkk

This brings up horrible childhood memories of being forced to eat liver

because I was anemic - I came up with about a million creative ways to get

rid of it without actually eating it! (Having 5 cats in the house made it

pretty easy though ;o) Did you ever notice how a slab of raw liver looks

like a big old blod clot? Blechhh!

Speaking of vegetarianism, that's a question that crossed my mind many

times. Are there any wls vegetarians (full or part-time) out there? Even

before surgery I didn't eat meat every day because I know WAY too much

about the way most meat is raised, processed and packaged which makes me

really fussy about what I'll eat and buy (translation - very expensive

organic stuff). So since I do 2-3 shakes a day, if I upped that number and

cut back on the food protein, would it be a travesty? (and I would eat

primarily vegetable dishes, probably some cheese, beans or tofu from time

to time, with maybe a bit of brown rice or low-carb or whole wheat pasta).

So what do you think? Do-able? Nutritional suicide?

Sally

298 (BMI 49)/-125/173

Goal: 150

lap RNY 7/10/02

Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

[Guest guest]

I don't think there is anything wrong with being a vegetarian as long as

you get in your protein. Meat (contrary to popular belief especially

here in Texas) is NOT the only source of protein. I would think that it

would just take a lot more planning and a lot more vigilance.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/335/???

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:58:38 -0400 Sally

writes:

> Speaking of vegetarianism, that's a question that crossed my mind

> many

> times. Are there any wls vegetarians (full or part-time) out there?

> Even

> before surgery I didn't eat meat every day because I know WAY too

> much

> about the way most meat is raised, processed and packaged which

> makes me

> really fussy about what I'll eat and buy (translation - very

> expensive

> organic stuff). So since I do 2-3 shakes a day, if I upped that

> number and

> cut back on the food protein, would it be a travesty? (and I would

> eat

> primarily vegetable dishes, probably some cheese, beans or tofu from

> time

> to time, with maybe a bit of brown rice or low-carb or whole wheat

> pasta).

>

> So what do you think? Do-able? Nutritional suicide?

>

> Sally

> 298 (BMI 49)/-125/173

> Goal: 150

> lap RNY 7/10/02

> Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

>

[Guest guest]

I doubt that I could ever become a vegan. I'm just a diehard

carnivore, I guess. But, for someone who could have eaten steak

every night as a pre-op, I rarely eat it now, and if I do, it must be

filet mignon. I believe we do tend to gravitate towards what goes

down easily. That's why I've started to crave fish, I guess. I

almost never eat chicken any more, as I had a bad time with it for

the first couple of years post-op, and I absolutely can not eat it

reheated.

Anyway, to answer your question, I think there are a few vegans on

the list, and certainly beans, cheese and tofu would help, but if

you're doing enough shakes, I don't see a problem. Also, of course,

pay attention to your labs to see if there's anything special you're

not getting from the lack of food protein (which I doubt).

in NJ

**********************

> >

> Speaking of vegetarianism, that's a question that crossed my mind

many times. Are there any wls vegetarians (full or part-time) out

there? Even before surgery I didn't eat meat every day because I

know WAY too much about the way most meat is raised, processed and

packaged which makes me really fussy about what I'll eat and buy

(translation - very expensive organic stuff). So since I do 2-3

shakes a day, if I upped that number and cut back on the food

protein, would it be a travesty? (and I would eat primarily

vegetable dishes, probably some cheese, beans or tofu from time

> to time, with maybe a bit of brown rice or low-carb or whole wheat

pasta).

>

> So what do you think? Do-able? Nutritional suicide?

>

> Sally

> 298 (BMI 49)/-125/173

> Goal: 150

> lap RNY 7/10/02

> Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

[Guest guest]

Like there's any comparison between chocolate and, and, and MEAT?

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Re: Liver - vegetarianism post-wls

> --On Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:39 PM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

> wrote:

>

> > sometimes I think I am

> > moving towards a vegetarian thing since I get almost all protein via

> > supps,,,,,but NEVER and organ stuff,,,,,yeckkkkkkkkkk

>

> This brings up horrible childhood memories of being forced to eat liver

> because I was anemic - I came up with about a million creative ways to get

> rid of it without actually eating it! (Having 5 cats in the house made it

> pretty easy though ;o) Did you ever notice how a slab of raw liver looks

> like a big old blod clot? Blechhh!

>

> Speaking of vegetarianism, that's a question that crossed my mind many

> times. Are there any wls vegetarians (full or part-time) out there? Even

> before surgery I didn't eat meat every day because I know WAY too much

> about the way most meat is raised, processed and packaged which makes me

> really fussy about what I'll eat and buy (translation - very expensive

> organic stuff). So since I do 2-3 shakes a day, if I upped that number

and

> cut back on the food protein, would it be a travesty? (and I would eat

> primarily vegetable dishes, probably some cheese, beans or tofu from time

> to time, with maybe a bit of brown rice or low-carb or whole wheat pasta).

>

> So what do you think? Do-able? Nutritional suicide?

>

> Sally

> 298 (BMI 49)/-125/173

> Goal: 150

> lap RNY 7/10/02

> Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Nope, no comparison. Give me chocolate any day. I swear if I could get

enough protein out of chocolate without gaining weight, I'd be there.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/335/???

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:35:01 -0700 " Vitalady "

writes:

> Like there's any comparison between chocolate and, and, and MEAT?

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Vitalady, Inc. T

> www.vitalady.com

>

[Guest guest]

--On Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:21 PM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

wrote:

> I don't think there is anything wrong with being a vegetarian as long as

> you get in your protein. Meat (contrary to popular belief especially

> here in Texas) is NOT the only source of protein. I would think that it

> would just take a lot more planning and a lot more vigilance.

LOL - thanks Lori. Watch out though - they may just run you out of the

state for saying something so radical! )

Sally

Director of Public Information

Deaf Dog Education Action Fund (DDEAF)

[Guest guest]

I kinda figured I had to take my chances and hope none of the Texas beef

people were watching. It's really kind of sad because there are a few

cattle people here in Denton county. I hope they haven't notice the drop

in meat bought because I don't eat beef anymore. I might be in real

trouble then. If I come up missing ya'll know where to start looking.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/335/???

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:26:29 -0400 Sally

writes:

> --On Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:21 PM +0000

> Graduate-OSSG

> wrote:

> Meat (contrary to popular belief especially

> here in Texas) is NOT the only source of protein.

>

> LOL - thanks Lori. Watch out though - they may just run you out of

> the state for saying something so radical! )

>

> Sally

> Director of Public Information

> Deaf Dog Education Action Fund (DDEAF)

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, Texans LOVE their beef. People from my home town sued

Oprah over it! (I was not proud to be from Amarillo then, and I

agreed with her right to say whatever she wants on HER show.)

Maybe if cattle producers didn't fatten their cows up and shoot

them full of hormones, etc. or worse, feed them ground up meal

made from, gasp, dead cows, the sales of meat wouldn't have

dropped!!!

I love meat though, especially steak. Sorry, can't give up my

carnivorous eating habits!

BTW, Just to clarify for everyone: Vegetarians don't eat meat, but

eat dairy and cheese. Vegans also don't eat meat, but are no

dairy, no cheese, nothing made of or from animals.

M

Amarillo, Tx

>

> > I don't think there is anything wrong with being a vegetarian

as long as

> > you get in your protein. Meat (contrary to popular belief

especially

> > here in Texas) is NOT the only source of protein. I would

think that it

> > would just take a lot more planning and a lot more vigilance.

>

> LOL - thanks Lori. Watch out though - they may just run you out

of the

> state for saying something so radical! )

>

> Sally

> Director of Public Information

> Deaf Dog Education Action Fund (DDEAF)

[Guest guest]

And there are some vegetarians who will eat fish. Don't figure. I

personally love my fish, chicken, and ground turkey. I just don't like

the way I feel when I eat beef. It reminds me of the Chick-Fil

commercials. It is a bunch of cows with pickit signs asking us to eat

more chicken.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/335/???

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:13:58 -0000 " " writes:

> BTW, Just to clarify for everyone: Vegetarians don't eat meat, but

> eat dairy and cheese. Vegans also don't eat meat, but are no

> dairy, no cheese, nothing made of or from animals.

>

>

> M

> Amarillo, Tx