Re: After almost a year I notice how much i've been doing wrong. So, back to basics but need advice.

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Hi,

I would recommend to start writing down what you eat including the intensity of your symptoms and trips to the restroom. I would also re comment to add yogurt and Lyo Sun capsules and also minimize the sugar (even from fruits) in your diet. The dose of Asacol that you are taking is so small that I am afraid with all the foods that you are adding this is just too much for your intestine at this point as you are not healed. I would also remove pepper from your diet ( no spices at this point). Eat everything fresh ( no more that 48 hours old), no fry food, made from scratch chicken soup could help a lot to heal and liver ( for the iron).

Best,

Subject: After almost a year I notice how much i've been doing wrong. So, back to basics but need advice.To: btvc-scd Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 12:16 PM

I've been on SCD since for about 9 months so far and with my most recent flare I started looking at what i've been doing. Since the past 4 months before this flare I was doing fine and then with the need to take antibiotics which killed my insides, I think I have to start over. I'm having alot of trouble identifying what foods I am reacting to right now. I think the problem is that I am weening off my medicine too quickyl, but I have no choice in that matter. So, as i'm weening off the meds i'm also trying to introduce new foods one at a time. It seems like i'm reacting to everything because i'm getting progressively worse and not better no matter what I take out or add in as far as new foods. I'm eating plain beef and plain chicken from the crock pot with pepper and salt. Sometimes I add marjoram but very little. I am also eating ripe avocado and just yesterday tried eating some well cooked beets with plain hamburger for iron. In the time I was

doing good on SCD and was taking only a little but of medicine I could tolerate almond flour well, steamed carrots, juices, apple cider, raisins, and a bunch of other things. I have cut all that out because I don't want to make things worse than they already are. I'm worried about losing too much weight. I'm already at a lower weight than I was when I wrestled in high school, and I had to run around with a plastic bag around my body to lose that weight!Should I eat the foods I could tolerate before to try and gain some weight back?my biggest concerns right now are blood loss since i'm starting to get pale, and weight.Suggestions for moving forward from here? I don't have the option of increasing my meds right now because of health insurance.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a day

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I'll take the spices out of everything except for the chicken and beef that I already have in the fridge. I took the yogurt out to see if that was my problem but I don't think so anymore, so i'll add that back in.I've been eating the livers from the chickens that I buy. Is beef liver just as good? Fortunatly I love the taste of liver, but I was always told not to eat too much of it.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a dayTo: BTVC-SCD From: pmazd@...Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:37:13 -0700Subject: Re: After almost a year I notice how much i've been doing wrong. So, back to basics but need advice.

Hi,

I would recommend to start writing down what you eat including the intensity of your symptoms and trips to the restroom. I would also re comment to add yogurt and Lyo Sun capsules and also minimize the sugar (even from fruits) in your diet. The dose of Asacol that you are taking is so small that I am afraid with all the foods that you are adding this is just too much for your intestine at this point as you are not healed. I would also remove pepper from your diet ( no spices at this point). Eat everything fresh ( no more that 48 hours old), no fry food, made from scratch chicken soup could help a lot to heal and liver ( for the iron).

Best,

From: T <scdguy26 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>Subject: After almost a year I notice how much i've been doing wrong. So, back to basics but need advice.To: btvc-scd Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 12:16 PM

I've been on SCD since for about 9 months so far and with my most recent flare I started looking at what i've been doing. Since the past 4 months before this flare I was doing fine and then with the need to take antibiotics which killed my insides, I think I have to start over. I'm having alot of trouble identifying what foods I am reacting to right now. I think the problem is that I am weening off my medicine too quickyl, but I have no choice in that matter. So, as i'm weening off the meds i'm also trying to introduce new foods one at a time. It seems like i'm reacting to everything because i'm getting progressively worse and not better no matter what I take out or add in as far as new foods. I'm eating plain beef and plain chicken from the crock pot with pepper and salt. Sometimes I add marjoram but very little. I am also eating ripe avocado and just yesterday tried eating some well cooked beets with plain hamburger for iron. In the time I was

doing good on SCD and was taking only a little but of medicine I could tolerate almond flour well, steamed carrots, juices, apple cider, raisins, and a bunch of other things. I have cut all that out because I don't want to make things worse than they already are. I'm worried about losing too much weight. I'm already at a lower weight than I was when I wrestled in high school, and I had to run around with a plastic bag around my body to lose that weight!Should I eat the foods I could tolerate before to try and gain some weight back?my biggest concerns right now are blood loss since i'm starting to get pale, and weight.Suggestions for moving forward from here? I don't have the option of increasing my meds right now because of health insurance.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a day

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Hi ,

It doesn't look to me like you are doing anything wrong food-wise. I'm

concerned about you weaning off the meds. I know people have done that, but to

me, the time to try that is when you are stable, not when you are getting worse.

It hate that you have to decrease the Asacol, which seems to have worked. I know

of drug companies that have made arrangements for people who have had difficulty

buying meds. The recent recession has left a lot of people without health

insurance. I know that doctors are aware of this and don't want their patients

to stop their medication. Maybe your doctor has some drug samples or can switch

you to another medication? Is there a free clinic in your area or relatives that

can help? I know in the past that you have responded to prednisone, which is not

very expensive.I hope you can get some medication. I'm concerned that by saving

money on Asacol while you are not doing well, that you may end up feeling worse

which is a lot more expensive ( and miserable ) to fix in the long run.

Staying on SCD in the long run will help, but losing weight and blood will not

help you heal at the moment. Yes, cutting back to soups and bland foods help,

but you have tried this and may need some more help to get this under control.

Feel better,

PJ

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> I've been on SCD since for about 9 months so far and with my most recent flare

I started looking at what i've been doing. Since the past 4 months before this

flare I was doing fine and then with the need to take antibiotics which killed

my insides, I think I have to start over. I'm having alot of trouble identifying

what foods I am reacting to right now. I think the problem is that I am weening

off my medicine too quickyl, but I have no choice in that matter. So, as i'm

weening off the meds i'm also trying to introduce new foods one at a time. It

seems like i'm reacting to everything because i'm getting progressively worse

and not better no matter what I take out or add in as far as new foods. I'm

eating plain beef and plain chicken from the crock pot with pepper and salt.

Sometimes I add marjoram but very little. I am also eating ripe avocado and just

yesterday tried eating some well cooked beets with plain hamburger for iron. In

the time I was doing good on SCD and was taking only a little but of medicine I

could tolerate almond flour well, steamed carrots, juices, apple cider, raisins,

and a bunch of other things. I have cut all that out because I don't want to

make things worse than they already are. I'm worried about losing too much

weight. I'm already at a lower weight than I was when I wrestled in high school,

and I had to run around with a plastic bag around my body to lose that weight!

>

> Should I eat the foods I could tolerate before to try and gain some weight

back?

>

> my biggest concerns right now are blood loss since i'm starting to get pale,

and weight.

>

> Suggestions for moving forward from here? I don't have the option of

increasing my meds right now because of health insurance.

>

> -

> UC - 1+ years

> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.

> Asacol - 5 pills a day

>

>

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>

>

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Can you ask your doctor about whether colazal would work for you or not

viz. the sulpha?

I have a ton I would be happy to donate to you from when I stopped it

last year.

And PJ is right that the doctor may have some asacol samples - I know my

doctor gave me a bunch of colazal samples on a few occasions - they

may certainly have some lying around.

>

> Hi ,

> It doesn't look to me like you are doing anything wrong food-wise. I'm

concerned about you weaning off the meds. I know people have done that, but to

me, the time to try that is when you are stable, not when you are getting worse.

>

> It hate that you have to decrease the Asacol, which seems to have worked. I

know of drug companies that have made arrangements for people who have had

difficulty buying meds. The recent recession has left a lot of people without

health insurance. I know that doctors are aware of this and don't want their

patients to stop their medication. Maybe your doctor has some drug samples or

can switch you to another medication? Is there a free clinic in your area or

relatives that can help? I know in the past that you have responded to

prednisone, which is not very expensive.I hope you can get some medication. I'm

concerned that by saving money on Asacol while you are not doing well, that you

may end up feeling worse which is a lot more expensive ( and miserable ) to fix

in the long run.

>

> Staying on SCD in the long run will help, but losing weight and blood will not

help you heal at the moment. Yes, cutting back to soups and bland foods help,

but you have tried this and may need some more help to get this under control.

>

> Feel better,

>

> PJ

>

>

>

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>> I've been on SCD since for about 9 months so far and with my most recent

flare I started looking at what i've been doing. Since the past 4 months before

this flare I was doing fine and then with the need to take antibiotics which

killed my insides, I think I have to start over. I'm having alot of trouble

identifying what foods I am reacting to right now. I think the problem is that I

am weening off my medicine too quickyl, but I have no choice in that matter. So,

as i'm weening off the meds i'm also trying to introduce new foods one at a

time. It seems like i'm reacting to everything because i'm getting progressively

worse and not better no matter what I take out or add in as far as new foods.

I'm eating plain beef and plain chicken from the crock pot with pepper and salt.

Sometimes I add marjoram but very little. I am also eating ripe avocado and just

yesterday tried eating some well cooked beets with plain hamburger for iron. In

the time I was doing good on SCD and was tak!

> ing only a little but of medicine I could tolerate almond flour well, steamed

carrots, juices, apple cider, raisins, and a bunch of other things. I have cut

all that out because I don't want to make things worse than they already are.

I'm worried about losing too much weight. I'm already at a lower weight than I

was when I wrestled in high school, and I had to run around with a plastic bag

around my body to lose that weight!

>>

>> Should I eat the foods I could tolerate before to try and gain some weight

back?

>>

>> my biggest concerns right now are blood loss since i'm starting to get pale,

and weight.

>>

>> Suggestions for moving forward from here? I don't have the option of

increasing my meds right now because of health insurance.

>>

>> -

>> UC - 1+ years

>> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.

>> Asacol - 5 pills a day

>>

>>

>>

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Relatives will help, and if I had to I could go to my mom to get the money... It's my own fault i'm so stubborn with not wanting to take medicine, and i'm even more stubborn when it comes to asking people for help. I'm going to call the doc once they are open tomorrow and get more prednisone so I have something to get me through. It's less than $10.00 so that should be ok for now. Gotta do what we gotta do I guess when it comes to medicine. Then I plan on re-filling all the scripts in the beginning of april once the insurance kicks in and go from there. I will be much more careful about weening off the meds this time. My concern before was that they would cover up any food reactions which is why I went down so quickly.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a dayTo: BTVC-SCD From: smdsmom2008@...Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:55:32 +0000Subject: Re: After almost a year I notice how much i've been doing wrong. So, back to basics but need advice.

Hi ,

It doesn't look to me like you are doing anything wrong food-wise. I'm concerned about you weaning off the meds. I know people have done that, but to me, the time to try that is when you are stable, not when you are getting worse.

It hate that you have to decrease the Asacol, which seems to have worked. I know of drug companies that have made arrangements for people who have had difficulty buying meds. The recent recession has left a lot of people without health insurance. I know that doctors are aware of this and don't want their patients to stop their medication. Maybe your doctor has some drug samples or can switch you to another medication? Is there a free clinic in your area or relatives that can help? I know in the past that you have responded to prednisone, which is not very expensive.I hope you can get some medication. I'm concerned that by saving money on Asacol while you are not doing well, that you may end up feeling worse which is a lot more expensive ( and miserable ) to fix in the long run.

Staying on SCD in the long run will help, but losing weight and blood will not help you heal at the moment. Yes, cutting back to soups and bland foods help, but you have tried this and may need some more help to get this under control.

Feel better,

PJ

>

>

> I've been on SCD since for about 9 months so far and with my most recent flare I started looking at what i've been doing. Since the past 4 months before this flare I was doing fine and then with the need to take antibiotics which killed my insides, I think I have to start over. I'm having alot of trouble identifying what foods I am reacting to right now. I think the problem is that I am weening off my medicine too quickyl, but I have no choice in that matter. So, as i'm weening off the meds i'm also trying to introduce new foods one at a time. It seems like i'm reacting to everything because i'm getting progressively worse and not better no matter what I take out or add in as far as new foods. I'm eating plain beef and plain chicken from the crock pot with pepper and salt. Sometimes I add marjoram but very little. I am also eating ripe avocado and just yesterday tried eating some well cooked beets with plain hamburger for iron. In the time I was doing good on SCD and was taking only a little but of medicine I could tolerate almond flour well, steamed carrots, juices, apple cider, raisins, and a bunch of other things. I have cut all that out because I don't want to make things worse than they already are. I'm worried about losing too much weight. I'm already at a lower weight than I was when I wrestled in high school, and I had to run around with a plastic bag around my body to lose that weight!

>

> Should I eat the foods I could tolerate before to try and gain some weight back?

>

> my biggest concerns right now are blood loss since i'm starting to get pale, and weight.

>

> Suggestions for moving forward from here? I don't have the option of increasing my meds right now because of health insurance.

>

> -

> UC - 1+ years

> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.

> Asacol - 5 pills a day

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm glad you're getting better with pred.

I don't know why everybody is so afraid of azathioprine. It gave me back my life

for ~3 years -- had a great time. I doubt if there are serious side-effects, if

you monitor your liver function.

Also, it is important to get your bleeding under control, gain some health to

fight the disease even if it means on the medications for a while.

-Andy

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> I'm glad you're getting better with pred.

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> I don't know why everybody is so afraid of azathioprine. It gave me back my

life for ~3 years -- had a great time. I doubt if there are serious

side-effects, if you monitor your liver function.

People don't like it because it is a long term immuno-suppressant. Immuno-

suppression may be medical conventional wisdom in the West at this point,

but it seems like a really stupid way of trying to promote someone's long term

health. It's when your immune system is working well, full out, that you are

the healthiest. This is why many of us onlist like the idea of LDN, which does

precisely that.

On another note, I used 6MP for several years, before I had a clue what I was

doing

with my health, and it didn't seem to do a bit of good for me - at the

most, it kept me from getting worse (which I was never sure), but didn't make me

better.

Mara