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Wow. Sounds like you founds something that works for you. It makes me wonder

about myself. I crave sunlight like I'm thirsty. I live near Seattle and most

days (except maybe a handful every month) this time of year there are think

clouds overhead. You can't see shadows from things, and the lights inside the

house are often brighter than the light coming from outside. I have been taking

Vitamin D for a couple years. Along with some other things it helped my hair

grow back. But I wonder how much better my body would heal in sunlight? I was

going to go to Arizona to visit a friend this year, but with being sick, I

haven't had a break from school since I was diagnosed last June. All my work

ends up taking longer so I have no days off by the time I make up work from

previous quarter/etc. I miss sunshine sooo much! I had this feeling like if I

could just get somewhere sunny I could heal, but then, I am too weak to take

care of myself right now, so I'll have to wait to test that theory. Congrats on

getting yourself on the road to recovery! :)

Kat

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UC since June '09

SCD since Feb '10

Prednison 5mg, rhodiola rosea, iron, other suppliments, probiotics

>

> I have been SCD for 5 months now and although I haven't had a flare up since

thank God, there were definitely some times where I felt tenderness or had some

diarhea!

>

> Anyway, I was low on vitamin B and D and the Dr. suggested a D supplement and

a B shot but I decided I wanted to try and heal myself naturally. I went to a

sunny island (strictly SCD) and have been taking D drops since and never went

for the shots and guess what???? I just got my lab results back and the Dr.'s

words were " remarkable " ! My B and D levels were normal and all my inflammation

markers were back to normal/low levels!!!!

> I have a great Dr. to actually referred me to this diet as an alternative to

meds but even he said that he didn't expect this good results this soon!!!!

>

> I'm cautiously optimisitc because I know there are sometimes bumps in the road

with this diet but I pray they are non existent or very few. In the meantime, I

feel awesome and so validated that the Dr. was so impressed with my results.

Oh...and I'm barely anemic anymore, just slightly below normal!

>

> Thanx to all of you on this group who gave me support when I needed it I hope

this gives hope to those of you who need it!!! What an awesome day!

> Becky

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Congratulations!!! I really appreciate the encouraging story. Maybe a sunny

island is what I need!

>

> I have been SCD for 5 months now and although I haven't had a flare up since

thank God, there were definitely some times where I felt tenderness or had some

diarhea!

>

> Anyway, I was low on vitamin B and D and the Dr. suggested a D supplement and

a B shot but I decided I wanted to try and heal myself naturally. I went to a

sunny island (strictly SCD) and have been taking D drops since and never went

for the shots and guess what???? I just got my lab results back and the Dr.'s

words were " remarkable " ! My B and D levels were normal and all my inflammation

markers were back to normal/low levels!!!!

> I have a great Dr. to actually referred me to this diet as an alternative to

meds but even he said that he didn't expect this good results this soon!!!!

>

> I'm cautiously optimisitc because I know there are sometimes bumps in the road

with this diet but I pray they are non existent or very few. In the meantime, I

feel awesome and so validated that the Dr. was so impressed with my results.

Oh...and I'm barely anemic anymore, just slightly below normal!

>

> Thanx to all of you on this group who gave me support when I needed it I hope

this gives hope to those of you who need it!!! What an awesome day!

> Becky

>

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Kat, you take Rhodiola? I used to take that along with Ashwaghanda and

Cordyceps for my adrenals but stopped because I could not figure out if they are

SCD legal.

> >

> > I have been SCD for 5 months now and although I haven't had a flare up since

thank God, there were definitely some times where I felt tenderness or had some

diarhea!

> >

> > Anyway, I was low on vitamin B and D and the Dr. suggested a D supplement

and a B shot but I decided I wanted to try and heal myself naturally. I went to

a sunny island (strictly SCD) and have been taking D drops since and never went

for the shots and guess what???? I just got my lab results back and the Dr.'s

words were " remarkable " ! My B and D levels were normal and all my inflammation

markers were back to normal/low levels!!!!

> > I have a great Dr. to actually referred me to this diet as an alternative to

meds but even he said that he didn't expect this good results this soon!!!!

> >

> > I'm cautiously optimisitc because I know there are sometimes bumps in the

road with this diet but I pray they are non existent or very few. In the

meantime, I feel awesome and so validated that the Dr. was so impressed with my

results. Oh...and I'm barely anemic anymore, just slightly below normal!

> >

> > Thanx to all of you on this group who gave me support when I needed it I

hope this gives hope to those of you who need it!!! What an awesome day!

> > Becky

> >

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Kat - are you taking vitamin D? Or vitamin D3?

If you are craving sunshine that badly, you need to take

vitamin D3 in high doses.

And maybe think about transferring for next year, if that

is at all feasible.

Mara

> Wow. Sounds like you founds something that works for you. It makes me wonder

about myself. I crave sunlight like I'm thirsty. I live near Seattle and most

days (except maybe a handful every month) this time of year there are think

clouds overhead. You can't see shadows from things, and the lights inside the

house are often brighter than the light coming from outside. I have been taking

Vitamin D for a couple years. Along with some other things it helped my hair

grow back. But I wonder how much better my body would heal in sunlight? I was

going to go to Arizona to visit a friend this year, but with being sick, I

haven't had a break from school since I was diagnosed last June. All my work

ends up taking longer so I have no days off by the time I make up work from

previous quarter/etc. I miss sunshine sooo much! I had this feeling like if I

could just get somewhere sunny I could heal, but then, I am too weak to take

care of myself right now, so I'll have to wait to test that theo!

> ry. Congrats on getting yourself on the road to recovery! :)

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> Kat - are you taking vitamin D? Or vitamin D3?

> If you are craving sunshine that badly, you need to take

> vitamin D3 in high doses.

Hi Mara,

Yes, I'm taking vitamin D3 at 10,000 IUs/day right now. I was prescribed

5,000/day three years ago for four years of hair loss with alopecia. I had tons

of other autoimmune skins disorders at the time too. I was also prescribed

Nordic Naturals cod liver oil, biotin (5,000mcg/day), and evening primrose oil.

The oils are for omega fatty acids. My hair did grow back almost all the way!

But unfortunately has started coming out again since I became very anemic and

got worse after I was put on prednisone. Anyway, yes. :) I'm on D3.

I just read an article that said that cholesterol is also needed as a precursor

to utilize D3 to make the hormone calcitriol, which is the fully activated form.

I know I am not digesting fats well - I tried a fatty piece of steak a couple

days ago as sort of a test, and I did not absorb much of the fat if any. I

haven't been able to fast for the blood test to find out how my cholesterol is

doing but intend to do that soon. I wonder if this could be a factor too. Or, if

I am just not absorbing the vitamin D to begin with because I am not absorbing

fats very well?

> And maybe think about transferring for next year, if that

> is at all feasible.

>

> Mara

>

I'm done, if all goes well, after summer quarter. I have to pick back up my work

tutoring if I am well enough to then before I can support myself while paying of

pretty massive loans, but I do intend to move to AZ (or Cali) as soon as I can -

probably next spring. I have a feeling there is more to getting enough sunlight

than taking D3 orally, at least for me.

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> Kat, you take Rhodiola? I used to take that along with Ashwaghanda and

Cordyceps for my adrenals but stopped because I could not figure out if they are

SCD legal.

>

Yeah, I'm not sure. I have the kind that is just the rhodiola plus capsule,

maybe some gellatin. My naturopath prescribed it and was the one to suggest the

diet, and checked all my meds to make sure they were legal. But other than that

I have no idea. I haven't reacted to it adversely I don't think. I'm still

bleeding so I really won't know for sure about anything until that stops.

I didn't think tiny bits of things would be a big deal, but I recently reacted

to (I think) a new brand of iron suppliment that my doc says is most easily

absorbed, but which has both spirulina and soy products. I guess a little bit

does go a long way! Or that I have an intollerance I suppose.

My doc also just attended a conference where she learned about DHEA, which

counters the effects of prednisone without compromising it's effectiveness. It

is a precursor to testosterone, estrogen and cortisol among other things. I

started it yesterday and I went from barely being able to move, pain everywhere,

especially in joints from the P, to having energy all day today! I am only on

5mg P and 5mg DHEA, but the P had wiped me out to the point of blurry vision,

inability to concentrate, recall or remember information, etc. Today is totally

different - all that is coming back. For anyone who is feeling the icky stick

side effects of prednisone, this DHEA stuff seems to work for me pretty well.

Kat

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Lame. :( Sorry for all the bad weather! I still bet you have the better end of

the stick though - from October to March, I'd say a good 50% of days are

completely cloudy with no sun whatsoever, and this time of year (late Feb to

mid-Apr) we get about 10% to 20% sunny days (or partly cloudy I guess). Not

uncommon to not see the sun for a good week straight. So I guess we didn't steal

your sunshine...the culprit is still at large!

>

> You don't want to be in Arizona right now, because it's been cloudy and rainy

for days! We've gotten more rain in the first two months of the year then we did

all of last year, and all of the reservoirs are full (definitely a good thing).

But I want my sunshine back!

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

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Kat,That is pretty interesting about the DHEA! So would you say that the amount of DHEA required is equal to the Prednisone being taken? If you have any literature/studies links, I would be interested in reading them. If not, no worries, just curious--would like to know for a future 'just in case' scenario.AmeliaTo:

BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 7:59:06 AMSubject: Re: amazing results!!!

>

> Kat, you take Rhodiola? I used to take that along with Ashwaghanda and Cordyceps for my adrenals but stopped because I could not figure out if they are SCD legal.

>

Yeah, I'm not sure. I have the kind that is just the rhodiola plus capsule, maybe some gellatin. My naturopath prescribed it and was the one to suggest the diet, and checked all my meds to make sure they were legal. But other than that I have no idea. I haven't reacted to it adversely I don't think. I'm still bleeding so I really won't know for sure about anything until that stops.

I didn't think tiny bits of things would be a big deal, but I recently reacted to (I think) a new brand of iron suppliment that my doc says is most easily absorbed, but which has both spirulina and soy products. I guess a little bit does go a long way! Or that I have an intollerance I suppose.

My doc also just attended a conference where she learned about DHEA, which counters the effects of prednisone without compromising it's effectiveness. It is a precursor to testosterone, estrogen and cortisol among other things. I started it yesterday and I went from barely being able to move, pain everywhere, especially in joints from the P, to having energy all day today! I am only on 5mg P and 5mg DHEA, but the P had wiped me out to the point of blurry vision, inability to concentrate, recall or remember information, etc. Today is totally different - all that is coming back. For anyone who is feeling the icky stick side effects of prednisone, this DHEA stuff seems to work for me pretty well.

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Kat, Iron supplements feed bad bacteria. Perhaps that is why you reacted.

> >

> > Kat, you take Rhodiola? I used to take that along with Ashwaghanda and

Cordyceps for my adrenals but stopped because I could not figure out if they are

SCD legal.

> >

>

> Yeah, I'm not sure. I have the kind that is just the rhodiola plus capsule,

maybe some gellatin. My naturopath prescribed it and was the one to suggest the

diet, and checked all my meds to make sure they were legal. But other than that

I have no idea. I haven't reacted to it adversely I don't think. I'm still

bleeding so I really won't know for sure about anything until that stops.

>

> I didn't think tiny bits of things would be a big deal, but I recently reacted

to (I think) a new brand of iron suppliment that my doc says is most easily

absorbed, but which has both spirulina and soy products. I guess a little bit

does go a long way! Or that I have an intollerance I suppose.

>

> My doc also just attended a conference where she learned about DHEA, which

counters the effects of prednisone without compromising it's effectiveness. It

is a precursor to testosterone, estrogen and cortisol among other things. I

started it yesterday and I went from barely being able to move, pain everywhere,

especially in joints from the P, to having energy all day today! I am only on

5mg P and 5mg DHEA, but the P had wiped me out to the point of blurry vision,

inability to concentrate, recall or remember information, etc. Today is totally

different - all that is coming back. For anyone who is feeling the icky stick

side effects of prednisone, this DHEA stuff seems to work for me pretty well.

>

> Kat

>

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If you have to take iron, perhaps something like this would go over better:

http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec/product_id/12118/nm/Gentle+Iron . I've

read that chelated iron (or iron Ferrous Bisglycinate) is much better on the

gut, and easily absorbed (less food for gut bugs).

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > Kat, Iron supplements feed bad bacteria. Perhaps that is why you reacted.

> >

> >

>

> I've been taking iron supplements since December due to the continued

bleeding. It has been believed by both my gastroenterologist and my naturopath

that started me on SCD that the risk of feeding the bad bacteria was less than

the risk of letting me get more anemic, especially since I am symptomatic of

anemia even when the numbers are fairly high but not normal - fainting, fatigue,

all that.

>

> I keep thinking I should stop taking the supplements, but I am still losing a

little blood every day. I am eating beef, I can tolerate beef liver, but I don't

know that the amount of iron in those would make up for what I am losing in my

stool. The treatment plan was to keep me on the iron supplements until my anemia

was totally gone (just got some ferretin levels to get up at this point - all

else normal!), then stop the supplements.

>

> Do you think this is possibly a more harmful way to go? My thinking is that

the faster I can kill off the bacteria the better, even if it means I have to

get an iron shot - I have heard people get those - I'm a little afraid of the

pain, but I can deal with it. I am worried about prolonging the battle in my

guts and causing more harm. I would rather lose a little iron intake personally

and instead stop bleeding, but feel weird going against what my doctor

recommended, and looking at my record, the bleeding probably won't stop anyway,

at least for some time. If the bacteria are not getting too much carbs anymore,

will the iron really make a difference?

>

> Ack! Too many questions. Thanks everyone for helping me figure this out!

>

> Kat

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