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My STARgrad wore her band from age 9 to 12 months. I dont know how far down the line they are saying but she is 7 now and doing great. I don't think I have heard of this happening and I have been a member since 2002

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Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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Marina,

That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!

Best,

Mom to Liam, 8 months

Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

STARBand since 25Feb09

From: mane5476 <mane5476@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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What kind of behavioral problems would banding cause " down the line " or no ?  I have read nothing that has mentioned this and I've read a fair amount.  The only behavioral issues (and I wouldn't call them issues really) are during the adjustment period when they get used to wearing it.  I'd be interested to know what your doctor is refering to.

Elaine (twin A) palgio & tort, 9mos, 2nd helmet since 1/5/09On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM, <theclarkclan05@...> wrote:

Marina,

 

That's interesting.  I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that.  I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line.  I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!

 

Best,

Mom to Liam, 8 months

Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

STARBand since 25Feb09

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Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?

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I would ask the doctor specifically what he meant and what research he has to back it up the information he gave you. I have found that professionals often get overloaded with minor detail things (for example my son Philly (doc band for 4 weeks) is in PT for tort and other issue and he is in the process of skipping crawling and going straight to cruising and walking - our PT made a huge deal out this saying that if he never crawls he will never be able to read - what the heck - I asked her to clarify the correlations between crawling and reading and she made up some excuse about him not being able to hold a book correctly if he never crawls - a little far fetched if you ask me).

So rest assured that this was probably a one time case that the doctor saw a child who wore a band who had behavioral problems later on and now correlates the band with behavior issues without taking any other factors into account such as the child's personality, environment etc....

K

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Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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He mentioned mainly hyperactivity... He's not really my doctor, I just called him to see if his treatments would be beneficial to my son and to see what experience he has with plagio..he did mention having patients with plagio but not too many. My opinion is that he doesn't have enough experience with plagio and he obviously prefers his treatment over the helmet.Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Lina Gabriev Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:54:09 -0500<Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: Behavior problems? What kind of behavioral problems would banding cause " down the line " or no ?  I have read nothing that has mentioned this and I've read a fair amount.  The only behavioral issues (and I wouldn't call them issues really) are during the adjustment period when they get used to wearing it.  I'd be interested to know what your doctor is refering to.Elaine (twin A) palgio & tort, 9mos, 2nd helmet since 1/5/09On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM, <theclarkclan05 > wrote: Marina, That's interesting.  I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that.  I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line.  I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!  Best,Mom to Liam, 8 monthsDiagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09STARBand since 25Feb09From: mane5476 <mane5476 >Plagiocephaly Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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My son also went through that adjustment phase... I just hope the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.. I also did some research but couldn't find anything indicating any behavior problems.. I think the DO doesn't have enough experience with plagio!Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:04:53 -0800 (PST)<Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: Behavior problems? Marina, That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already! Best,Mom to Liam, 8 monthsDiagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09STARBand since 25Feb09From: mane5476 <mane5476 >Plagiocephaly Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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My son also went through that adjustment phase... I just hope the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.. I also did some research but couldn't find anything indicating any behavior problems.. I think the DO doesn't have enough experience with plagio!Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:04:53 -0800 (PST)<Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: Behavior problems? Marina, That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already! Best,Mom to Liam, 8 monthsDiagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09STARBand since 25Feb09From: mane5476 <mane5476 >Plagiocephaly Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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How long do you consider an adjustment phase? My son got his helmet at 4 months old and he is now a bit over 5 and his personality has really changed. Maybe its his age? Im not totally convinced that the helmet hasnt changed my sons behavior but he will soon be out of it.

mom to Justice 5 months old starband since 1-26-09

From: mane5476@... <mane5476@...>Subject: Re: Behavior problems?Plagiocephaly Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 5:00 PM

My son also went through that adjustment phase... I just hope the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.. I also did some research but couldn't find anything indicating any behavior problems.. I think the DO doesn't have enough experience with plagio!

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Marina,

That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!

Best,

Mom to Liam, 8 months

Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

STARBand since 25Feb09

From: mane5476 <mane5476 (DOT) com>PlagiocephalySent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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i know this isnt excatly long term but my daughter who is 9 now and has behavioral problems, adhd and bipolar disorder showed symptoms before she was 2, so to me 2 years old would be a good age.  Anyway wore the docband from 9-12 months and he is 27 mo now and still a laid back little guy, he gets upset when frustrated which is common in 2 yr olds but considering his severe speech delay so he doesnt really talk at all, I would think his would be worse than the average 2 yr old and it is not, actually he is better than many

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Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?

Marina

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there is some info that says UNTREATED plagios may have an increased risk of adhd but there havent been any large scale studies

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:50 AM, <mane5476@...> wrote:

He mentioned mainly hyperactivity... He's not really my doctor, I just called him to see if his treatments would be beneficial to my son and to see what experience he has with plagio..he did mention having patients with plagio but not too many. My opinion is that he doesn't have enough experience with plagio and he obviously prefers his treatment over the helmet. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: Lina Gabriev Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:54:09 -0500<Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: Behavior problems?

What kind of behavioral problems would banding cause " down the line " or no ?  I have read nothing that has mentioned this and I've read a fair amount.  The only behavioral issues (and I wouldn't call them issues really) are during the adjustment period when they get used to wearing it.  I'd be interested to know what your doctor is refering to.

Elaine (twin A) palgio & tort, 9mos, 2nd helmet since 1/5/09

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM, <theclarkclan05@...> wrote:

Marina,

 

That's interesting.  I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that.  I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line.  I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!

 

Best,

Mom to Liam, 8 months

Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

STARBand since 25Feb09

From: mane5476 <mane5476@...>Plagiocephaly

Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?

Marina

-- -household executive, maid, chef (ok thats a stretch), taxi driver, domestic engineer or, best of all, just " mommy "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1088463/Why-time-forget-pushchair-sling-baby-sleep.htmlhttp://midscbwers.blogspot.com/

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Some babies (though rare) don't take to the helmet well at all, even after being

in it for a while. He could have another adjustment after he's done wearing it,

and go back to being good-natured. You also need to take into consideration his

development and other factors at that age: is he teething? transitioning to baby

food? loosing sleep because of the helmet or teething or both? etc. Those are

things that can easily throw a good-natured baby out of whack. What Marina was

talking about was long term behavior problems down the road in school-aged

children (which there is no evidence to support). At this point, some babies are

just fussier than others, and hopefully he'll be happier once he's out of his

helmet.

Jake-2.5 (DOCBand Grad 9/08)

Jordan-5

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> My son also went through that adjustment phase... I just hope the doctor

doesn't know what he's talking about.. I also did some research but couldn't

find anything indicating any behavior problems.. I think the DO doesn't have

enough experience with plagio!

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> That's interesting.  I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that.  I have

noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy.....but that

could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down

the line.  I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!

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> Best,

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> Mom to Liam, 8 months

> Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

> Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

> STARBand since 25Feb09

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> Hello,

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> I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the

helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down

the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone

has noticed behavioral problems in their children?

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> Marina

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Amazing that you have got such good results in a month!

I was wondering whether you did see improvement with facial assymetry (if there) in addition to head shape.Zhyldyz

From: C <cobb6family@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 1:18:50 PMSubject: Re: Behavior problems?

How long do you consider an adjustment phase? My son got his helmet at 4 months old and he is now a bit over 5 and his personality has really changed. Maybe its his age? Im not totally convinced that the helmet hasnt changed my sons behavior but he will soon be out of it.

mom to Justice 5 months old starband since 1-26-09

From: mane5476 (DOT) com <mane5476 (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Behavior problems?PlagiocephalyDate: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 5:00 PM

My son also went through that adjustment phase... I just hope the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.. I also did some research but couldn't find anything indicating any behavior problems.. I think the DO doesn't have enough experience with plagio! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:04:53 -0800 (PST)<Plagiocephaly>Subject: Re: Behavior problems?

Marina,

That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!

Best,

Mom to Liam, 8 months

Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

STARBand since 25Feb09

From: mane5476 <mane5476 (DOT) com>PlagiocephalySent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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My son was 9 months when he got the helmet so he was more aware of the helmet being on him. He was fine during the day but was very uncomfortable at nights for around 2 weeks. He was also teething so I think that also had something to do with the fussiness. Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: C Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:18:50 -0800 (PST)<Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: Behavior problems? How long do you consider an adjustment phase? My son got his helmet at 4 months old and he is now a bit over 5 and his personality has really changed. Maybe its his age? Im not totally convinced that the helmet hasnt changed my sons behavior but he will soon be out of it. mom to Justice 5 months old starband since 1-26-09 From: mane5476 <mane5476 >Subject: Re: Behavior problems?Plagiocephaly Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 5:00 PMMy son also went through that adjustment phase... I just hope the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.. I also did some research but couldn't find anything indicating any behavior problems.. I think the DO doesn't have enough experience with plagio!Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:04:53 -0800 (PST)<Plagiocephaly>Subject: Re: Behavior problems?Marina, That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already! Best,Mom to Liam, 8 monthsDiagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09STARBand since 25Feb09From: mane5476 <mane5476 (DOT) com>PlagiocephalySent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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After banding my daughter developed a behavior problem called " the terrible

twos " ;-) It is continuing into age 3. Her teacher tells me she's perfectly

normal and a lot of help at school, since she likes to " take care of " the little

ones.

I haven't heard anything about plagio and behavior problems. So many kids are

diagnosed as hyperactive these days, I'm sure some will be plagio kids. My

daughter is just over 3 yrs, but I really don't anticipate any latent problems

from banding.

-christine

sydney, 3 yrs, starband grad

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> > Marina,

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> > That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I

> > have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as

> > happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there

> > aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this,

> > it's plenty already!

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Mom to Liam, 8 months

> > Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

> > Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

> > STARBand since 25Feb09

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> > *From:* mane5476 <mane5476@...>

> > *To:* Plagiocephaly

> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AM

> > *Subject:* Behavior problems?

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> > Hello,

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> > I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the

> > helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child

> > down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if

> > anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?

> >

> > Marina

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My son's behaviour problems didn't start until this past year when he hit

the terrible 3's :>) I don't think he is any worse than his brothers were

at this age. In fact the whole 3-5 year old period is pretty bad from my

experience and that was with two kids that weren't banded and the one that

was banded seems to be following in their footsteps.

If you plan on seeing the doctor again I would ask him to show you the

studies that say that banding causes behaviour problems.

Molly

Novato, California

Nicolas, 3, tort & plagio, STARband (CIRS Oakland) 4/24/06-9/12/06,

Graduate!

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That's very interesting. I'm aware of some of the neuropsychological findings in kids with ADHD and it's curious that plagio could somehow be related. We do know that it's the front of the brain that is involved, but the doctor's sear that the skull shape doesn't have anything to do with the actual brain inside.

Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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If a misshapen skull would apply uneven pressure to or misshape the brain enough to cause any kind of long term behavioral issues, wouldn't correcting the skull shape so the brain has as even a pressure and a " regular " shape as possible help to lessen behavior issues and not create more then?   Just seems to make more logical sense then banding causing long term issues.

 

Elaine (twin A) plagio & tort, 9mos, 2nd band since 1/5/09

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM, <melanie.watson@...> wrote:

That's very interesting. I'm aware of some of the neuropsychological findings in kids with ADHD and it's curious that plagio could somehow be related. We do know that it's the front of the brain that is involved, but the doctor's sear that the skull shape doesn't have anything to do with the actual brain inside.

Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?

Marina

-- -household executive, maid, chef (ok thats a stretch), taxi driver, domestic engineer or, best of all, just " mommy "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1088463/Why-time-forget-pushchair-sling-baby-sleep.html

http://midscbwers.blogspot.com/

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There has been a slight change in his facial assymentry but Im not happy with that at all yet. Which is why the 2nd helmet is being considered. But over all it went fast and his head is great!!

mom to Justice 5 months starband since 1-26-09

From: mane5476 (DOT) com <mane5476 (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Behavior problems?PlagiocephalyDate: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 5:00 PM

My son also went through that adjustment phase... I just hope the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.. I also did some research but couldn't find anything indicating any behavior problems.. I think the DO doesn't have enough experience with plagio! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:04:53 -0800 (PST)<Plagiocephaly>Subject: Re: Behavior problems?

Marina,

That's interesting. I will have to ask Liam's orthotist about that. I have noticed in the first week that he has been more fussy, not as happy....but that could just be the adjustment period. I really hope there aren't more issues down the line. I think for parents that go through this, it's plenty already!

Best,

Mom to Liam, 8 months

Diagnosed with Deformational Positional Plagiocephaly 3NOV08

Re-Diagnosed with Severe Bracycephaly 17Feb09

STARBand since 25Feb09

From: mane5476 <mane5476 (DOT) com>PlagiocephalySent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:56:01 AMSubject: Behavior problems?

Hello,I was talking to a DO today and he told me that he's not too fond of the helmet and he believes it might cause some behavioral problems in the child down the line. I was wondering if anyone else heard something similar or if anyone has noticed behavioral problems in their children?Marina

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