Re: Re: No physician will see me

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I do not know what JIB is but I do know her surgeons and they don't do

JIB, the do a standard VBG with a silastic ring. She also has not

followed the program, and, in my opinion, probably has made poor eating

choices. She was also told that there was nothing mechanically wrong

with her surgery - no sld's, etc. So why would the insurance company

cover that? Why would a doctor want to do surgery on her? That is all I

am saying. She has to have more of a valid reason then not loosing the

weight with a BMI of less then 35 or 40.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:44:23 -0000 " watnext2001 "

writes:

> Well, not necessarily. When I had a staple line disruption, my BMI

> was 35. Dr. Gagner said it was a question of them seeing the

> benefit

> of doing it now or waiting until I gained all the weight back.

> Thank

> G*d, they had the foresight to approve the transection.

>

> But, that was in Aug. of 2000 (Horizon BC/BS of NJ), and they may

> not

> be that liberal now. But, Kourt was talking about them approving

> the

> JIB, which is not done in this country any more, is considered too

> dangerous, and her insurance approved it.

>

> I told her to go to the www.asbs.org website, and copy whatever info

>

> she could find on the dangers of the JIB, hire an attorney, if

> necessary, and demand they cover a more current, safer surgery. I

> don't know if it will work, but it's worth a shot.

>

> in NJ

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>

>

> > If you are expecting insurance to cover this, you will need to

> meet

> > certain criteria including a BMI of at least 40 and a need to

> loose

> about

> > 80 to 100 lbs minimum. Most surgeons, or at least the good ones,

> > wouldn't want to do the surgery on you either. So it doesn't

> really

> > matter which surgery you are looking at, if you don't meet the

> criteria,

> > they won't do the surgery.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > SRVG 7/16/01

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> >

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JIB:Jejuno-ileal bypass involved joining the upper small intestine to the

lower part of the small intestine, bypassing a large segment of the small

bowel, which is thus taken out of the nutrient absorptive circuit.

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Re: Re: No physician will see me

I do not know what JIB is but I do know her surgeons and they don't do

JIB, the do a standard VBG with a silastic ring. She also has not

followed the program, and, in my opinion, probably has made poor eating

choices. She was also told that there was nothing mechanically wrong

with her surgery - no sld's, etc. So why would the insurance company

cover that? Why would a doctor want to do surgery on her? That is all I

am saying. She has to have more of a valid reason then not loosing the

weight with a BMI of less then 35 or 40.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

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I had what was called the Mason Bypass. Here's the link:

http://www.asbs.org/html/story/chapter4.html Figure 6. I am now a true RNY.

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Re: No physician will see me

If anyone's interested, here's the link to the ASBS website,

explaining the procedure and why it's no longer done here...

http://www.asbs.org/html/story/chapter2.html

Jac, this isn't what you had before, is it?

in NJ

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> JIB:Jejuno-ileal bypass involved joining the upper small intestine

to the lower part of the small intestine, bypassing a large segment

of the small bowel, which is thus taken out of the nutrient

absorptive circuit.

>

> Jac

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Ya'll really have to excuse me today. I think I have left my brain

somewhere or I missed a post somewhere. I'm going to blame it on PMS and

the heat though okay. I vaguely remember her saying something about

this. I may have her confused with someone else.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:35:12 -0000 " watnext2001 "

writes:

> I really don't know what's going on, but in a private email, she did

>

> tell me that her surgeons only do the VBG, but have done a very few

>

> JIB's for patients who have either gained back their weight or

> haven't lost much. She also said she does have a copy of her op

> report.

>

> I know that if someone doesn't follow the program with a VBG, they

> can easily gain, but the JIB is a very highly malapsorptive

> procedure, so it's very strange that she has not lost anything in

> the

> 3 weeks since surgery. Also, according to the ASBS, the JIB surgery

>

> was abandoned because of a 30% chance of it causing liver disease,

> in

> addition to the typical malapsorptive problems. That's why it's no

>

> longer done in this country. So, if that is, indeed, the surgery

> they did, she's questioning how the insurance company could have

> approved it.

>

> So, would this be an exception to the typical BMI of 35-40 rule? If

>

> it were me, I'd pull out the big guns and fight for a safer, modern

>

> surgery.

>

> in NJ

> *************************

>

> > I do not know what JIB is but I do know her surgeons and they

> don't

> do JIB, the do a standard VBG with a silastic ring. She also has

> not

> > followed the program, and, in my opinion, probably has made poor

> eating choices. She was also told that there was nothing

> mechanically wrong with her surgery - no sld's, etc. So why would

> the insurance company cover that? Why would a doctor want to do

> surgery on her? That is all I am saying. She has to have more of a

>

> valid reason then not loosing the weight with a BMI of less then 35

>

> or 40.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > SRVG 7/16/01

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> >

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