Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Perhaps you should consider letting her kids live with you for a while - it would be better than foster care, but perhaps also better than growing up with a mentally defective mother till Mom is well. I know, you probably think you don't have the room for them or the money and stuff but where there is a will there is a way? s. Re: Waaaay OT - Bipolar Disorder questions I wish her other family could help! They aren't really in any position to, however. Her mother has similar problems, and she doesn't feel like she can turn to her dad. My husband is her only sibling, and she is so afraid of disappointing him, I end up talking to her instead of him. They've had a rocky past themselves due to their mother's mental health issues, and were in foster care on and off throughout their childhood. That's part of why my husband doesn't consider a child protection order much of an option. He's a social worker and knows much more about the way the system works and doesn't want the two girls to go through what he did as a child. It is a complicated mess. And I come from the Leave it to Beaver family so this is completely new to me! > > > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone > here > > > as > > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has > > > been > > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital > yesterday > > > after > > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > > > > reasons: > > > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > > months) > > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the > > > place, > > > > herself and the kids > > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls > us > > > for > > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't > want > > > her > > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't > deserve > > > > that! > > > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken > care > > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to > > find > > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local > NAMI > > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get > into > > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll > do. > > > And > > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > > behaviors > > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > > daughter's > > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an > > > entire > > > > family! > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here as any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has been diagnosed as bi-polar. Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday after having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several reasons: 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 months) and I'm concerned about their safety 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the place, herself and the kids 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us for help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want her living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve that! But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care of....where to start??? I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to find out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. And the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her behaviors go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her daughter's pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an entire family! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Is she on any medications? Someone I know has bipolar disorder and she usually has these manic episodes when she forgets to take her meds. > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here as > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has been > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday after > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > reasons: > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 months) > and I'm concerned about their safety > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the place, > herself and the kids > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us for > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want her > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve > that! > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care > of....where to start??? > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to find > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. And > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her behaviors > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her daughter's > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an entire > family! > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 She was taking Paxil, then some other antidepressant, but they only made her manic episodes work. She did go off the meds, and that was what contributed to her breakdown. Now she's taking Depakote and Xyprexa, which are both specifically for Bipolar, although Depakote can also be used for seizure prevention. I've just found another message board that may be helpful. I'm hoping the social worker I'm going to talk to tomorrow will have some good advice! I do fear for her children. > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here > as > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has > been > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday > after > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > > reasons: > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 months) > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the > place, > > herself and the kids > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us > for > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want > her > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve > > that! > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care > > of....where to start??? > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to find > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. > And > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > behaviors > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > daughter's > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an > entire > > family! > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I know it can be scary. This person I know has these episodes in a very bad way. She hurts herself, although I don't know if she's ever tried to harm anyone else. Your SIL definitely needs to be watched over - at least until the the disorder is under control with other/new meds. It just may take some time so don't take it all on your shoulders. Let other family members get involved. > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here > > as > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has > > been > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday > > after > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > > > reasons: > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > months) > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the > > place, > > > herself and the kids > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us > > for > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want > > her > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve > > > that! > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to > find > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. > > And > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > behaviors > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > daughter's > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an > > entire > > > family! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I wish her other family could help! They aren't really in any position to, however. Her mother has similar problems, and she doesn't feel like she can turn to her dad. My husband is her only sibling, and she is so afraid of disappointing him, I end up talking to her instead of him. They've had a rocky past themselves due to their mother's mental health issues, and were in foster care on and off throughout their childhood. That's part of why my husband doesn't consider a child protection order much of an option. He's a social worker and knows much more about the way the system works and doesn't want the two girls to go through what he did as a child. It is a complicated mess. And I come from the Leave it to Beaver family so this is completely new to me! > > > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone > here > > > as > > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has > > > been > > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital > yesterday > > > after > > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > > > > reasons: > > > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > > months) > > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the > > > place, > > > > herself and the kids > > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls > us > > > for > > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't > want > > > her > > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't > deserve > > > > that! > > > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken > care > > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to > > find > > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local > NAMI > > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get > into > > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll > do. > > > And > > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > > behaviors > > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > > daughter's > > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an > > > entire > > > > family! > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 It's a tough thing to go through. If she lives close enough to you then maybe it would be easier to just check up on them throughout the day and make sure everything is ok. Or, if possible, even getting the children into a daycare of some sort for most of the day could help get things through until good treatment is established. > > > > > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone > > here > > > > as > > > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that > has > > > > been > > > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital > > yesterday > > > > after > > > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for > several > > > > > reasons: > > > > > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > > > months) > > > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of > the > > > > place, > > > > > herself and the kids > > > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She > calls > > us > > > > for > > > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't > > want > > > > her > > > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't > > deserve > > > > > that! > > > > > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken > > care > > > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to > > > find > > > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local > > NAMI > > > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get > > into > > > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll > > do. > > > > And > > > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > > > behaviors > > > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > > > daughter's > > > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into > an > > > > entire > > > > > family! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 This is my area of law and I can tell you from the MULTITUDES of reports and legal proceedings I deal with every day, this is not a family issue any longer. (Please..... verify my identity, 13th Judicial Circuit, Juvenile Dependency, Hillsborough County, Florida, Assistant to General Magistrate Joan Montagno, .) Terrible things happen every day to the unfortunate children of parent with bi-polar disorder and other mental health issues (including issues with anger management). The LAST thing you want to do is bring this situation into your household. Most people with these types of disorders don't readily agree to psy evals and/or services to improve their lives until ordered (by the courts) to do so, and sometimes not even then. The safety of the children is primary. Report this situation immediately to Child Protective Services. They will analyze the situation and they have the authority to assist the courts to ORDER the necessary evals and/or services for the mother and father to keep these children safe. You have taken very loving and hopeful steps, however, if there are verifiable mental health issues, these people may not be capable of making positive choices for themselves or their children. As a post script,.............I wanted my first posting here to say thanks. As I shared with Faith earlier, as I am preparing my horrible dockets, I sometimes check my personal email. Everytime I check, there are the most wonderful postings from this site! It brings a smile to my heart as I am preparing the Magistrate's notes (involving abusers, molesters, and the like) and is much appreciated. God Bless, I hope this helps!! > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here as > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has been > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday after > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > reasons: > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 months) > and I'm concerned about their safety > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the place, > herself and the kids > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us for > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want her > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve > that! > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care > of....where to start??? > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to find > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. And > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her behaviors > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her daughter's > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an entire > family! > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 We've talked about that, and although we have room, we really can't afford daycare for 3 kids. Not even considering our daycare is at least $100/week less than most around here. If she lived with us, we could swing it financially because we wouldn't need daycare for the girls. Even though we are a two income family, my husband is works with DD adult and makes squat and I don't make nearly enough to support him staying home with the kids. He did say that if it came down to it though, he'd consider getting another job on the weekends to pay for them staying with us. It would suck, but I know he'd be willing to do that to keep the girls in his family and safe. If the father of the girls does try to get custody, I do know we'll be fighting him in court, and will be getting that second job. > > > > > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone > > here > > > > as > > > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that > has > > > > been > > > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital > > yesterday > > > > after > > > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for > several > > > > > reasons: > > > > > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > > > months) > > > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of > the > > > > place, > > > > > herself and the kids > > > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She > calls > > us > > > > for > > > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't > > want > > > > her > > > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't > > deserve > > > > > that! > > > > > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken > > care > > > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to > > > find > > > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local > > NAMI > > > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get > > into > > > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll > > do. > > > > And > > > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > > > behaviors > > > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > > > daughter's > > > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into > an > > > > entire > > > > > family! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 My mom is classic bipolar. The problem with people experiencing this ....literally, affliction, is they don't tend to stay on their meds. They start to feel " normal " and think, " I don't need this stuff " . It doesn't matter how many times they've yo-yo'd before, they always think " this time I'll be ok. The problem is the meds don't allow them to have extreme highs or lows.. the stay somewhere in the middle. When my mom isn't on her meds she can be in a " manic faze then suddenly within seconds be angry and depressed. It'll absolutely blow your mind if you don't know what's going on. Mom takes a rather high dosage of Zoloft. She was on Prozac once for about a month and it just turned her into a cool tempered *itch. She'd look at me evenly while I was getting ready to go to school and tell me I was dressed like a slut...(I could be wearing overalls--- it didn't matter) It was awful. I was never in any kind of physical danger though.... The biggest problem is the impulsiveness and emotional crutches they use. My mom was ALWAYs in an enormous amount of debt. Her crutch was loser men. The sicker they were the better... it took the focus off her to " save " them.She has issues with sex addiction too. She tends to equate sex with power and love... plus, I'm sure it has something to do with dopamine levels. Anyway, growing up with my mom was crazy. She brought a crack addict into our lives for a few years who would occasionally get into trouble with his dealers. They often came to bang on our door, and he stole everything he could get his hands on more than once. The guy after that was an alcoholic...after that a bum ex-musician who almost " made it " and never gave up trying. He ringed us out of thousands of dollars and once drew a gun on my mom. (This guy is the reason I left home when I graduated). Having said all that, until I was ready to leave, I would have been insanely furious at anyone who would have tried to take me away from her(of course I was older-- 12 when she divorced my stepdad). She was hurtful, unpredictable, and impulsive, but under it all, I KNEW she loved me. Sometimes her monetary impulses meant spoiling me rotten..or sending me to Europe. She always wanted the best for me, she just couldn't stop screwing up her own life to save mine. If the kids are in real danger, I'd say do all you can. But until they can either ask for help, or you think they are in real eminent physical danger... I don't know how much you should get involved legally. I know that sounds awful.I would " be there " as much as you can be. I know there are social workers who visit homes to help parents " cope " with life and their children...maybe that's an option. Your best bet is to just make sure she stays on her meds. Most bi-polar victims are just fine when they comply. The other thing you have to remember is, while they have some volition, it IS a real sickness. She doesn't act crazy because she's a bad person. It took me YEARS to understand this concept in more than a clinical way. Now I can forgive her when she's nuts. kannhoudek wrote: She was taking Paxil, then some other antidepressant, but they only made her manic episodes work. She did go off the meds, and that was what contributed to her breakdown. Now she's taking Depakote and Xyprexa, which are both specifically for Bipolar, although Depakote can also be used for seizure prevention. I've just found another message board that may be helpful. I'm hoping the social worker I'm going to talk to tomorrow will have some good advice! I do fear for her children. > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here > as > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has > been > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday > after > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > > reasons: > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 months) > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the > place, > > herself and the kids > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us > for > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want > her > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve > > that! > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care > > of....where to start??? > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to find > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. > And > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > behaviors > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > daughter's > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an > entire > > family! > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I think I would have been willing to live with a relative as long as I knew it wasn't a legal arrangement. YEs, I agree that would have been better than living with my mother while she was in one of her phases. kannhoudek wrote:We've talked about that, and although we have room, we really can't afford daycare for 3 kids. Not even considering our daycare is at least $100/week less than most around here. If she lived with us, we could swing it financially because we wouldn't need daycare for the girls. Even though we are a two income family, my husband is works with DD adult and makes squat and I don't make nearly enough to support him staying home with the kids. He did say that if it came down to it though, he'd consider getting another job on the weekends to pay for them staying with us. It would suck, but I know he'd be willing to do that to keep the girls in his family and safe. If the father of the girls does try to get custody, I do know we'll be fighting him in court, and will be getting that second job. > > > > > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone > > here > > > > as > > > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that > has > > > > been > > > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital > > yesterday > > > > after > > > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for > several > > > > > reasons: > > > > > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > > > months) > > > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of > the > > > > place, > > > > > herself and the kids > > > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She > calls > > us > > > > for > > > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't > > want > > > > her > > > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't > > deserve > > > > > that! > > > > > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken > > care > > > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to > > > find > > > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local > > NAMI > > > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get > > into > > > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll > > do. > > > > And > > > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > > > behaviors > > > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > > > daughter's > > > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into > an > > > > entire > > > > > family! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Thank you so much for sharing your story. My mother-in-law is also bi-polar, and my husband and his sister grew up in and out of foster care. His father was also an alcolholic, they were very poor, etc etc etc. Later in life, when the kids were old enough to choose, my husband decided to live with his dad. His dad had stopped drinking and worked his butt off to afford his trailer and the piece of land he now owns some 30 years later. His mom hasn't ever really worked, likely due to her mental illness. His sister decided, when she was old enough, to live with her mother. We wonder sometimes if perhaps this contributed to her current decision making. She has had three kids, the first one she gave up for adoption almost 10 years ago, and the other two she has with her. As you were saying about your mother, we KNOW absolutely she loves those girls and would do anything she is capable of to help them. Right now, however, she isn't even capable of taking care of herself. We are really hoping that once her medications kick in (Depakote and Xyprexa), that she'll figure things out and get back on her feet. But, we know that some time down the line, whether it is 1 year or 10 years from now, she's going to end up right back where she is now. I really do understand that most of her behaviors are due to her disorder, and that she doesn't mean to harm others. I'm struggling more with the thought that she can't recognize that having dirty diapers on the floor is not healthy for her kids. I know she cares about them, but loving them isn't going to change diapers, feed them and keep them safe. KWIM? Sometimes loving just isn't enough. And that's what my husband and I have to figure out....and why we would prefer that she stabilizes enough so we can have her live with us so we can make sure the basics are taken care of for her girls so she can concentrate on what she is really good at - loving the girls. We are also very afraid that her ex is going to take the girls away from her, and that means us to. He doesn't talk to his own family, and hasn't for over 10 years. We know if he has them, we won't ever get to see them again. It already breaks my husband's heart that he can't see his nephew because he was adopted. Family is so important to him.....more so than even me. I know it is because his has been torn apart by mental illness. He had to see his mom being carted off in an ambulance many times growing up because of her mental illness, and then now sees his sister in the same situation. Plus, she has a history of attempting suicide. He says that the way she is now, is how she was when she tried last time. That is his biggest fear...that the girls will find her. I'm thinking I may give her a call to talk...I'm learning that I have to be very careful so she doesnt' think I'm calling to check up on her though. I joined another message board specifically for this and have gotten some fantistic information from others who are bipolar. It is a complex and frightening thing...for both the people who have it, and those who see their loved ones dealing with it. I think it is amazing when I hear of stories like your's, and how strong children can be...and resiliant. You should be extremely proud of yourself for coming out the other end! > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here > > as > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has > > been > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday > > after > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several > > > reasons: > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > months) > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the > > place, > > > herself and the kids > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us > > for > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want > > her > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve > > > that! > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to > find > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. > > And > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > behaviors > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > daughter's > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an > > entire > > > family! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 That's exactly what my husband has said too. He didn't like foster care at all. The families treated him differently and he was a very smart boy. He figured a lot of stuff out much earlier than most kids do. He said if he had been able to stay with his aunt and uncle, any of them, it would have been so much easier to cope with. He still resents his mom for everything that happened, even though he does know that is wasn't entirely her fault. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if > anyone > > > here > > > > > as > > > > > > any experience dealing with a friend or family member that > > has > > > > > been > > > > > > diagnosed as bi-polar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital > > > yesterday > > > > > after > > > > > > having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for > > several > > > > > > reasons: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 > > > > months) > > > > > > and I'm concerned about their safety > > > > > > 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of > > the > > > > > place, > > > > > > herself and the kids > > > > > > 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She > > calls > > > us > > > > > for > > > > > > help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't > > > want > > > > > her > > > > > > living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't > > > deserve > > > > > > that! > > > > > > > > > > > > But I also want to make sure she and her children are > taken > > > care > > > > > > of....where to start??? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally > to > > > > find > > > > > > out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her > local > > > NAMI > > > > > > representative. We've also given her numbers to call to > get > > > into > > > > > > some transitional housing....but we have no idea what > she'll > > > do. > > > > > And > > > > > > the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her > > > > > behaviors > > > > > > go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her > > > > > daughter's > > > > > > pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry > into > > an > > > > > entire > > > > > > family! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I, too, have a SIL who is bi-polar. I am happy to report that she is neither married or a parent. Every time my MIL comes to visit us from out east, my SIL has an episode of some sort and occupies all of her time, which has been very frustrating for my DH because he wants his mom to come and see his kids and family, etc. She has regularly stolen from him/us, asked for money continually for " medication " and we also feel that she was involved in a break-in at our house. We have chosen to cut her off, but that is because we can. Your situation is more difficult because there are children involved and that is so hard. I unfortunately don't have any particular advice, but I offer support in whatever you decide to do. Best wishes to you! --- kannhoudek wrote: --------------------------------- I know this is way off topic, but I wanted to see if anyone here as any experience dealing with a friend or family member that has been diagnosed as bi-polar. Long story short, my SIL just got out of the hospital yesterday after having a manic episode. I'm looking for resources for several reasons: 1. There are kids involved (she has 2 girls, age 3 and 18 months) and I'm concerned about their safety 2. She needs a place to live, and support to take care of the place, herself and the kids 3. How the heck do my husband and I deal with her? She calls us for help sometimes and I have no idea what to do. We can't afford to take her kids in our house, and I don't want her living with us, putting Aleksander in danger. He doesn't deserve that! But I also want to make sure she and her children are taken care of....where to start??? I have contacted a licensed clinical social worker locally to find out what we can do, and I've also got a number for her local NAMI representative. We've also given her numbers to call to get into some transitional housing....but we have no idea what she'll do. And the father of the kids isn't too much better. He let her behaviors go unchecked for several months until she snapped at her daughter's pre-school and had to be taken to the hospital. Ugh...in-laws! It is really too bad you have to marry into an entire family! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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