Re: Post-op snacking

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I snack frequently. Usually I snack on cheese or nuts. Sometimes I have

something sweet.

Dawn----South suburban chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5' 4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

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Pam, Not only do I get the urge from time to time, but I indulge!!

The difference is that much less satisfies me. I'll have one of

those Hershey's miniature chocolates, maybe two, then I'm done. I

always get my protein first, and my vitamins, but then I have

whatever I want. I didnt do this to diet the rest of my life. I

dont feel out of control, I'm very relaxed about my eating now. And

my surgery is working just fine, -48lb in 9 weeks. Meli

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., pamjams2@a... wrote:

> Hi Gang,

>

> I was just sitting here thinking about 's post about the dream

she had

> about eating carbs.........and I was wondering something. DO you

post-ops

> snack? And when and if you do, WHAT do you snack on, and how much

do you

> snack on? It just really made me curious after reading 's

post. Right

> now, I am 7 3/4 weeks out, and I haven't had any urges to snack at

all. But

> I KNOW that they will come. Some have even reported that those

urges return

> " with a vengeance. So, I would like to know, please, is this true

for some

> of you? And if it is, how have you, or did you handle it?

>

> Thanks so much.

>

> Hugs,

>

>

> Pam in MD

> BPD/DS - July 9, 2001

> Dr. Vanguri

>

>

>

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In a message dated 8/31/01 4:10:40 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<<

At 2:34 PM -0400 8/31/01, pamjams2@... wrote:

>... DO you post-ops snack?

>>

This is a really good question. I find that I snack mostly at times when I'm

not that hungry to eat a meal.... Sometimes I just don't feel like eating or

get full really quickly and can't finish something. Then, I will find myself

snacking. I eat similar things that

Steve mentioned (pretty high protein - except that I love Pistachios and so

far I haven't experienced any ill effects. I found out they actually come in

HUGE 2lb bags, too and I got two bags two weeks ago - almost done with the

second. Of course, my kids help me out here).

I'll also snack on non-high protein stuff on occasion, but I try to stick to

the high protein and/or ensure that my protein is gotten with meals and/or

shake/supplement. I've found that I am most likely to NOT want to eat on

plateaus -- when my body slows down and tries to retain nutrients. Then, I

become quite ravenous (although I could never eat as much as pre-op) when I

start losing again!

If I'm eating well (ie. a solid meal three times a day), I don't find a great

need to snack in between except in the late afternoon (we usually have dinner

a bit late). I am full with my meals and satisfied. But, I will snack more

frequently when I eat much smaller amounts and don't really have 'square

meals' at any time.

My snacks often include low fat yogurt, soy nuts,

peanuts/almonds/pistachios/cashews, cheese, cottage cheese, fruit....

Needless to say, I DO EAT when I'm hungry. Sometimes a solid meal will

satisfy my hunger wheras other times I just cannot eat that much and get

hungrier faster as a consequence.

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. Gagner, Mt. Sinai, NYC

seven months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 1/2 " )

now: 224

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Pam in MD.....

I snack mostly on healthy foods like cheese, peaches, watermellon and

grapes. Sometimes its a Luna bar or protein frappe drink. Occasionally

something wicked like a donut!! <g>

Judie

[Guest guest]

> I was just sitting here thinking about 's post about the dream she

had

> about eating carbs.........and I was wondering something. DO you post-ops

> snack? And when and if you do, WHAT do you snack on, and how much do you

> snack on? It just really made me curious after reading 's post.

Right

> now, I am 7 3/4 weeks out, and I haven't had any urges to snack at all.

But

> I KNOW that they will come. Some have even reported that those urges

return

> " with a vengeance. So, I would like to know, please, is this true for

some

> of you? And if it is, how have you, or did you handle it?

> Pam in MD

Hi Pam -

I've definitely had to make some adjustments to my eating schedule, and

while I don't know if I'd call it snacking, per se, it's been somewhat

difficult and definitely different than what I expected. My answer is sorta

rambly (as is my wont), and has a couple questions to add to yours at the

end, for anyone up to reading it.

Prior to DS (I'm almost 10 weeks out), my usual eating regimen would go

something like this: about 6:30 or 7 a.m., I'd have a bagel with cc, or a

danish, and 6 shots of espresso over ice. Lunch at noon was a 50/50

proposition - half of the time I'd have none, and half of the time I'd get a

quick pita sandwich or slice of pizza or salad, etc. Dinner, somewhere

between 7-9pm, was where I had a big meal. Usually I got take-out or ate

out, and it could be anything: sushi, a burger, burrito, Asian or Italian

foods, fish, etc. - but it was usually a big meal because by that time I'd

be hungry, esp if I'd had no lunch. Since I don't have a kitchen at home, if

I ate at home it may have been a deli sandwich or just a bag of chips!

Rarely would I indulge in sweets....if I had a bag of cookies in the house,

it would usually be thrown out a month later.

Now, after DS, I get hungry every 2-4 hours! I have found it sooooo annoying

to have to give thought to a high-protein meal 3-5 times per day, in very

small quantity. It's been difficult lifestyle-wise for me, and I have not

enjoyed the task of packing up stuff to take to work (esp since the

convenient stuff is the least palatable, IMHO). The convenience items I've

found tolerable include pistachios, yogurt, protein bars, instant mashed

potatoes/bean soup from Trader Joe's.

Probably my biggest " binge " item prior to DS was potato chips. With or

without a sour cream dip. Since I unfortunately have oily discharge, I have

avoided these high-fat items like the plague, but in truth have not craved

them much. I've found since DS, I've wanted sugary things more than before,

but I think it's still pretty minor. I've had one mini chocolate eclair

since surgery, and usually once a day add a splash of cranberry juice to a

glass of water. That's been it. Oh - and I had some Coke cravings after

surgery when I was so nauseated and had one a day for a while, but that's

over, finally...never liked sodas much anyway.

What I miss most is: my daily 6 shots of espresso over ice, with a half-inch

of 1/2 & 1/2!!! Also cheeses!!! Darn, I LOOOVE good cheeses: blues and

smelly old cheddars and goudas and goat cheeses/chevres, and limbergers,

herbed bries, camenberts, etc. Even the thought of Shropshire bleu makes my

mouth water! Alas, I am just too annoyed by my oily anal discharge to

attempt them, although I desperately hope later on I'll be able to.

When did people attempt a small steak? I'm afraid it will sit in my belly

like lead, but I've been craving that.

Does the frequent hunger dissipate for people further out? I was quite happy

eating usually twice a day, and would love to have that be the regular deal

again.

Pam, thanks for your question, although I'm not sure I've provided any real

answers. Thanks also to everyone who bothered to read my rambles this far,

and TIA for answers to my questions, as well as to Pam's.

- SC

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In a message dated 08/31/2001 6:41:56 PM Central Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> right ! I think the closer to medium you get the less chance of it

> " sitting in your stomach like a rock " , it becomes!

>

>

I have also resorted to being a " child " and use a lot of catsup with my

steak!! I eat steak at least one, often twice a week! I love it. I think

it is responsible for my iron levels being so good also!!

Dawn----South suburban Chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5' 4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

[Guest guest]

Hi SC!

You asked:

When did people attempt a small steak? I'm afraid it will sit in my belly

like lead, but I've been craving that.

I started eating fillet mignon and prime rib at about 2-3 months out. It

was so delicious and I tolerated it well. We eat steak often now.

I firmly believe if you are craving steak then your body needs it! Listen

to your body!! Give it what its craving.......!!

One way you can get around the daily grind of preparing proteins 3-5 times a

day is to go vegetarian a little bit. You can get some good proteins from

bean dishes and things like that. I often have refried beans with black

olives, chiles, green onions and those kind of things mixed in the beans and

add some sirloin ground beef to that too. Then sprinkle on any kind of

cheeses you like (the more the better) and top that with sour cream and

avacado and eat with fritos scoops! Wonderful protein packed meal!! Or,

just have a luna bar or shake if you are really lazy!

I too go thru the frequent hunger and Im 9 months out.....I find it

irritating sometimes too and miss the satiety I once had and not needing

more than a couple meals a day......

I think the closer you get to your goal the hungrier you are and the weight

just begins to slow wayyyyyyyy down! Perhaps thats natures way of making

sure you dont keep losing weight until you disappear!

Judie

[Guest guest]

> Judy, thanks for your answers and good suggestions. I think I'll

consider

> trying a small steak soon, then. Mmmmm.

I can tolerate it too, provided it's at least medium rare, or a

twinge closer to rare. I'm 8 weeks out today.

[Guest guest]

Judy, thanks for your answers and good suggestions. I think I'll consider

trying a small steak soon, then. Mmmmm.

> I started eating fillet mignon and prime rib at about 2-3 months out. It

> was so delicious and I tolerated it well. We eat steak often now.

> I firmly believe if you are craving steak then your body needs it! Listen

> to your body!! Give it what its craving.......!!

<<<SNIP>>>

> I too go thru the frequent hunger and Im 9 months out.....I find it

> irritating sometimes too and miss the satiety I once had and not needing

> more than a couple meals a day......

> I think the closer you get to your goal the hungrier you are and the

weight

> just begins to slow wayyyyyyyy down! Perhaps thats natures way of making

> sure you dont keep losing weight until you disappear!

> Judie

DARN! Well, I am a bit disappointed to think I won't be back down to eating

once or twice a day any time soon, then. O, well. There are worse

alternatives. *g*

- SC, kinda chatty today in case ya noticed

[Guest guest]

SC....dont give up now.....you just might get the satiety back later, Im

guessing anyway. (I hope we do!) But as long as we do not gain, who cares

if we end up eating alot more? <g>

I know exactly what you mean though and I dont care for cooking either becuz

I cooked for 38 yrs and sometimes i get very sick of it! So, things like

shish kabobs, steak, grilled salmon, barbqued chicken....those things are

quick and so good for us that we rarely have to have other things with it

even if its 4-5 times a day. When I get sick of cooking anything I will

have a protein drink....gets the protein in and satisfies me for about 2

hours.....(by the way when you make shish kabobs, make enough so that you

have some for breakfast and dinner the next day!!!! its wonderful at

breakfast time!!)

As for the steak....make sure you use tender steaks like the mignon and dont

cook them to death becuz that might be where the sitting like a rock will

come from! We grill ours till they are just a little red and juicy and oh

yummmmmmmmm! Delish! We can eat an 8 ounce steak now and sometimes a 12

ouncer! (with the 12 ouncer, we eat nothing else with it)

Judie

[Guest guest]

I can tolerate it too, provided it's at least medium rare, or a

twinge closer to rare. I'm 8 weeks out today.

>>>>>

right ! I think the closer to medium you get the less chance of it

" sitting in your stomach like a rock " , it becomes!

Judie

Re: Post-op snacking

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> > Judy, thanks for your answers and good suggestions. I think I'll

> consider

> > trying a small steak soon, then. Mmmmm.

>

> I can tolerate it too, provided it's at least medium rare, or a

> twinge closer to rare. I'm 8 weeks out today.

>

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Dawn,

Im into lots of ketchup too especially with my meatballs! I pile it on

LOL....sometimes I crave my meatballs for breakfast....isnt that weird?

Judie