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I posted yesterday but never saw the email so maybe it

didn't go through. Here's what happened:

I went to my PCP yesterday. I gave him a letter I

wrote to him requesting the DS and why. I also gave

him a copy of Hull's Aetna letter (after taking

out all of the Aetna references).

My doc wasn't as enthusiastic as he was the last time

I saw him. Why do I have a feeling he just wants me

to accept the RNY and hush up? Maybe it's because he

told me not to be influenced by all of the people who

have had DS - after all, why would they say the DS was

bad? Or that he said alot of people have had the DNY

- it can't be THAT bad of a surgery.

I stayed calm and explained that alot of people don't

know about the RNY and I've heard alot of complaints

from RNYers - not DSers. (Has anyone here EVER said

they regret the DS Surgery????) I told him I didn't

want to have my stomach carved up, drink Meat

Tenderizer and go through the recovery only to regain

within 5 years.

He did say perhaps I should see a certain

endocrinologist who has a liquid diet program. At

that point, I nearly did lose it. I told him I did

the liquid diet and lost my gall bladder. No thank

you. Someday I'd have to eat again and I'd just

regain.

He did finally agree to write the letter. I hope he

does it soon. It took nearly a month to write the

Letter of Medical Necessity. (BTW, I took a peak at

it and it's two paragraphs long... it said I have

(conditions listed) and to see my first letter I'd

written to him requesting surgery. Next paragraph

says he agrees I need the surgery.) I hope he writes

a convincing letter for the DS!

Today, I went to the PCP again and gave him copies of

a screenshot showing Dr Rabkin's address, phone number

and hospital address. I also included a few emails

that I had received from people saying they had

Pacificare and had the DS. (I deleted names).

So now I wait again. PLEASEEEEEEE, I hope

Pacificare/Marin IPA approve me!

Also, I have an off-topic (I think) question. My

friend who is also overweight went to her doc and he

said she has something like Pickwickan Syndrome or

Pickwickian something. She said her brain shorted out

after that and she has no idea what it is. I did a

search and can't find out any info. Can someone

please help? Thanks!

=====

Dee

Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

313/Want to be 165

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> Also, I have an off-topic (I think) question. My

> friend who is also overweight went to her doc and he

> said she has something like Pickwickan Syndrome or

> Pickwickian something. She said her brain shorted out

> after that and she has no idea what it is. I did a

> search and can't find out any info. Can someone

> please help? Thanks!

Dee, good luck with your insurance issues! What a pain!

Regarding " Pickwickian Syndrome " - this is a rather derogatory term for

" obesity hypoventilation syndrome. " Its eponym came from (I think - someone

please correct me if I'm wrong on the author) a Dickinson story that has a

fat character named Pickwick who falls asleep all the time.

Basically, it's not obstructive sleep apnea, although it's often related and

many people who have the hypoventilation syndrome (OHS) also have apnea.

Also, symptoms of daytime sleepiness can also be associated with both

disorders. They can be difficult disorders to separate out! While not

completely understood, the OHS is felt to stem from a heavy chestwall

weight, preventing full inspiration and expansion of the lungs. Chronically,

it can lead to hypoxia (not enough oxygen reaching the blood). It can also

lead to carbon dioxide retention as well, and the combination of these two

can lead to sleepiness, mental confusion and cloudiness. Treatments include

treatment for apnea, if present, sometimes low-level oxygen during the day,

weight loss, exercise of chest muscles and increasing inspiratory strength.

Sleeping on the sides can help sometimes. There are some medicines that help

as well.

Take all this with a grain of salt. Just ramblings from a stranger on the

internet....

- SC

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OMG, I liked the sleep apnea answer earlier! When she

told me about the Pickwickan thing, the first thing I

thought of was Dickins. Wow.

Thank you so much for the info!

dee

--- DrSCB wrote:

> > Also, I have an off-topic (I think) question. My

> > friend who is also overweight went to her doc and

> he

> > said she has something like Pickwickan Syndrome or

> > Pickwickian something. She said her brain shorted

> out

> > after that and she has no idea what it is. I did

> a

> > search and can't find out any info. Can someone

> > please help? Thanks!

>

> Dee, good luck with your insurance issues! What a

> pain!

>

> Regarding " Pickwickian Syndrome " - this is a rather

> derogatory term for

> " obesity hypoventilation syndrome. " Its eponym came

> from (I think - someone

> please correct me if I'm wrong on the author) a

> Dickinson story that has a

> fat character named Pickwick who falls asleep all

> the time.

>

> Basically, it's not obstructive sleep apnea,

> although it's often related and

> many people who have the hypoventilation syndrome

> (OHS) also have apnea.

> Also, symptoms of daytime sleepiness can also be

> associated with both

> disorders. They can be difficult disorders to

> separate out! While not

> completely understood, the OHS is felt to stem from

> a heavy chestwall

> weight, preventing full inspiration and expansion of

> the lungs. Chronically,

> it can lead to hypoxia (not enough oxygen reaching

> the blood). It can also

> lead to carbon dioxide retention as well, and the

> combination of these two

> can lead to sleepiness, mental confusion and

> cloudiness. Treatments include

> treatment for apnea, if present, sometimes low-level

> oxygen during the day,

> weight loss, exercise of chest muscles and

> increasing inspiratory strength.

> Sleeping on the sides can help sometimes. There are

> some medicines that help

> as well.

>

> Take all this with a grain of salt. Just ramblings

> from a stranger on the

> internet....

>

> - SC

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> OMG, I liked the sleep apnea answer earlier! When she

> told me about the Pickwickan thing, the first thing I

> thought of was Dickins. Wow.

> Thank you so much for the info!

> dee

>

YES! Dickens! That's who I meant to say, sorry.

- SC

> > > Also, I have an off-topic (I think) question. My

> > > friend who is also overweight went to her doc and he

> > > said she has something like Pickwickan Syndrome or

> > > Pickwickian something. She said her brain shorted out

> > > after that and she has no idea what it is. I did a

> > > search and can't find out any info. Can someone

> > > please help? Thanks!

> > Dee, good luck with your insurance issues! What a

> > pain!

> >

> > Regarding " Pickwickian Syndrome " - this is a rather

> > derogatory term for

> > " obesity hypoventilation syndrome. " Its eponym came

> > from (I think - someone

> > please correct me if I'm wrong on the author) a

> > Dickinson story that has a

> > fat character named Pickwick who falls asleep all

> > the time.

> >

> > Basically, it's not obstructive sleep apnea,

> > although it's often related and

> > many people who have the hypoventilation syndrome

> > (OHS) also have apnea.

> > Also, symptoms of daytime sleepiness can also be

> > associated with both

> > disorders. They can be difficult disorders to

> > separate out! While not

> > completely understood, the OHS is felt to stem from

> > a heavy chestwall

> > weight, preventing full inspiration and expansion of

> > the lungs. Chronically,

> > it can lead to hypoxia (not enough oxygen reaching

> > the blood). It can also

> > lead to carbon dioxide retention as well, and the

> > combination of these two

> > can lead to sleepiness, mental confusion and

> > cloudiness. Treatments include

> > treatment for apnea, if present, sometimes low-level

> > oxygen during the day,

> > weight loss, exercise of chest muscles and

> > increasing inspiratory strength.

> > Sleeping on the sides can help sometimes. There are

> > some medicines that help

> > as well.

> >

> > Take all this with a grain of salt. Just ramblings

> > from a stranger on the

> > internet....

> >

> > - SC

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