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Bob,

My point was not that the DS is investigational, as I have devoted

hundreds of hours to disproving that notion. However, the fully

laprascopic DS IS investigational. The data are simply not sufficient

to prove that lap DS is as safe as open. The suregons are not very

experienced with this procedure done laprascopically. With only 1

report on only 40 cases, I would be hard to make an argument

otherwise. By comparison, the open DS has well over 1000 reported

cases in the literature with over 10 years of data.

The real question is: Is getting a smaller scar and maybee a day or

two less time in the hospital worth the increased risk? There is no

proof that Lap DS gives any better outcome.

Now the lap assisted DS that Rabkin does might be argued to be at

least somewhat established. With over 100 procedures published an

excellent results, I would be less concerned about the lap assisted

procedure.

Hull

> > My point is that

> > the lap DS is in its " investigational " period and as they

say " caveat

> > emptor " .

> >

> > Hull

>

> I'm glad you don't work for my insurance company. By your

logic,

> Coronary Arterial Bypass Graft (CABG) surgery is still

investigational.

> They still have leaks, arrhythmias, and deaths. Cardiac bypass has

a

> published mortality rate of about 1.2% and 11% of patient have had a

> previous bypass (see http://heart-surgeon.com/coronary-

bypass.html .) Makes

> the DS stats look real good. It really is a good thing that most

medical

> folks use efficacy and outcomes to declare a procedure as common

practice.

>

> Bob

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