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This is very interesting. I never heard of this being done. So,

you guys

who've had this don't have a belly button? How does that feel?

Micky

FEEL? Well, it was something I obsessed about for a while-- a body image

thing-- there was a whole string of posts about how to replace it--

surgery, tattoos-- got pretty funny-- do a search on tattoos and it

should kick up ( I think it was on this list, not the ds_usc list)

During the early healing stages, there was a tender spot on the upper

edge of the incision which my brain told me was just inside my belly

button-- and one of the nurses confirmed that was what was once at that

spot. I don't spend a lot of time staring at my belly in the mirror, and

if I did, the absence of the navel might be weird, but right now, what is

weird is the giant shallow open incision. My plan is to get a tattoo

once my weight loss is done and any additional panni is accomplished. I

figure they can build a new one ( which is what is usually done) in the

last panni removal, but if I can't have the one I was born with and was

used to for 49 years, then I'd rather have a nice design-- or maybe just

a tattoo of your basic four hole button.

Nan E.

5'2 " , 368

20 pounds off in panni

waiting for a DS date with Dr. Anthone in CA

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Tom,

Was all for this until I read / saw your files. This is absolutely

barbaric looking. How many of these has he done, how many were as

bad as yours, does he still leave the open wound?

Thanks

GH

> > > Nan E.

> > > 5'2 " , 368

> > > 20 pounds off in panni

> > > waiting for a DS date with Dr. Anthone in CA

> > >

> > How did you get a panni without the wls?

>

> Hi GH:

>

> Nan and I have the same surgeon, and we've both had the pre-DS

> panni. To read more about it than you'd ever want to know, follow

> this link, <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/duodenalswitch/files/>

> then look for the folder titled: Tom's_Pre-DS_Panniculectomy

>

> Tom

>

> Panniculectomy, Dr. Anthone, 11/10/2000

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I am pre-DS, but had a panni following a 75 lb. WT loss in March 1999.

The panni weighted 17 lbs, and was pinching my femoral nerve. This

caused my rt leg to become numb and collapse at odd moments. The area

underneath the panni was constantly infected and raw--despite 2

showers daily and holding up the panni with one hand so I could dry

underneath it with a blow dryer set to low! I had to hire a lawyer to

fight my ins co, but they backed down and paid for it. I still have my

original but slightly revised belly button. The surgeon did say he

might not be able to save it. In that case my plan was to change my

name to Eve. However, I think the button tattoo is a good idea!

Pre-op with Dr. Pomp 10/3 and tired of waiting but haven't heard

anything from Mt. Sinai since 8/1 when my surgery was postponed.

Getting VERY annoyed.

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> Was all for this until I read / saw your files. This is absolutely

> barbaric looking. How many of these has he done, how many were as

> bad as yours, does he still leave the open wound?

Tom was an exceptional case-- he got an infection of no small

porportions that made his recovery a real nightmare! Mine has not

been a picknic, but my incision came apart, which isn't the norm,

either. Dr. A reserves this treat for those who have high BMI to do

two things 1) improve mobility ( a big hangin apron of fat can make

walking difficult) and 2) to reduce the BMI and make surgery a little

less risky. I think that getting the hanging apron off also makes

things less stressful on the vertical DS incision. The giant

horizontal incision freaks a lot of people out-- freaked out my home

nurse something awful the first week out of the hospital. Once I

went back in for the vacum assisted wound closure, and reduced the

depth of the incision from 6 inches to two, it was a whole lot easier

to cope with. Remember that the abdominal wall is not involved in

this surgery, just the external fat and skin, so it is not as

difficult a surgery as it might be.

Nan E.( tired of waiting for her DS DATE)

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Good grief Tom! Couldn't they have used a packing material that

wouldn't stick so bad?

http://wwwcanada.mmm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/SH_help_faq.d2w/

report#Q60

Kathleen F

Open Duodenal Switch

Drs. Rabkin/Jossart

01/02/01 - 374#

09/06/01 - 254#

http://www.webniche.com/wls/

> Hi GH:

>

> ..snip.., <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/duodenalswitch/files/>

> then look for the folder titled: Tom's_Pre-DS_Panniculectomy

>

> Tom

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> > Was all for this until I read / saw your files. This is

absolutely

> > barbaric looking. How many of these has he done, how many were

as

> > bad as yours, does he still leave the open wound?

>

>

> Tom was an exceptional case-- he got an infection of no small

> porportions that made his recovery a real nightmare! Mine has not

> been a picknic, but my incision came apart, which isn't the norm,

> either.

Are there any stats on how many ran into the same problems as you and

Tom? I think its a great idea and would love to do it (I am

stressing my knees in the gym on the bike because my knees hit my

belly) but I want it to be sewed up.

The giant

> horizontal incision freaks a lot of people out-- freaked out my

home

> nurse something awful the first week out of the hospital

Gotta good laugh here. My ma just got out of hospital and had home

nurse for physical therapy. The nurse was just out of school, and

having a tough time - and just thinking about her seeing your open

gaping wound - she would have run from the room !!

Remember that the abdominal wall is not involved in

> this surgery, just the external fat and skin, so it is not as

> difficult a surgery as it might be.

So, again, why can't they just sew it up like a regular incision. It

just seems to be asking for trouble.

>

> Nan E.( tired of waiting for her DS DATE)

Thans for the info, and hope you get your date soon,

GH

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