Re: hot body?

August 14, 2001

Hi,

Has anyone's kids experienced episodes of what we call " hot body? " Every few

weeks or so, my son's torso becomes extremely hot to the touch, and he's

mostly irritable and lethargic These episodes last several days. He is not

" sick " during this time. This has been going on for over a year. Our regular

pediatrician blew us off with the line about giving him Tylenol if his temp

got too high. Our DAN doctor hasn't heard of any other complaints like this,

and kind of doubts bacteria or yeast would cause this, yhough he does not

rule out the possibility. My son has evidence of high amounts of gut bacteria

which has come down only slightly after two months of Pro-Culture Gold

probiotic. I suspect yeast also, and we are waiting for stool test results to

confirm.

Anyone have ideas about hot body? I feel my son is burning up from the inside

out today.

Thanks,

Debbie

August 14, 2001

F,

I wouldn't really consider this a fever. His buttocks, legs and arms stay

completely cool during these episodes. When I put my hand on his back, it

feels hot enough to fry an egg (if we ate eggs, which we don't), but then I

run my hand down his back to his bottom, and it's as though there's a line at

his waist where the temperature drops off to normal. It's really a distinct

difference. When he's truly sick with a fever, his whole body heats up, not

just his torso.

No, he's not being treated for yeast. I think he has yeast, but we're waiting

for test results to come back before treating. He's on probiotics for

bacteria, but has only been for two months. These hot body episodes have gone

on for over a year.

As far as speech, his speech has never been delayed or affected, so I can't

help you with your question about speech improving during a fever. That

really is interesting, though.

As far as an allergen causing the hot body, yes, I think this is a distinct

possibility, except that in so many instances, I can't think of a darn thing

that he'd eaten which could have caused a problem. I'm really hoping yeast

could cause this problem, because if it's not yeast, I'm out of ideas.

Thanks,

Debbie

August 14, 2001

Marita,

Except for the vomiting, which my son doesn't do, what your son had sounds

similar to what my son has. I hope my son outgrows it before he's eight - my

son in four now and when his body gets so hot, I can't imagine all the damage

being done internally.

Was your son tested for yeast and/or bacteria at the time he was gettign his

episodes? I'm hoping yeast is causing this and am waiting for test results to

get back.

Thanks,

Debbie

August 14, 2001

Yes!!!

This same thing happened with our child for a few years (seems to have

grown out of it now at 8).

Every two to three months he would become febrile with vomiting. He always

vomits with a fever. He never showed any signs of an infectious process - no

cold or flu symptoms, no urinary tract infections etc. It would last for

about 24 hours and then he would be flat for a couple of days and then we

would have a period of calmness where he was really good, calm, and stable.

This would last for a short while, before agitation etc flared up again. It

was a really weird thing, and we never found out the reason for it. But it

definately seemed to be a cyclical thing.

It hasn't happened now for about a year I think, maybe a bit longer. I

didn't click that it had stopped until one day he complained that he felt

hot and vomited, and we expected the same thing to happen again, but this

time he got a cold.

I don't know why it stopped, but about a year ago he started medication

(Zoloft) and we made big dietary changes (not gfcf then) - eliminating all

added colours, chocolate in any form, and caffeine. Whether that had any

positive affect I can't say as I have no idea where this sort of febrile

thing stems from.

We just put it down to one of those weird things that has happened as part

of his autism. I always believed that it was related to the autism as there

were positive changes in mood/behaviour and traits afterwards.

How old is your son?

Marita

>

> Has anyone's kids experienced episodes of what we call " hot body? " Every

few

> weeks or so, my son's torso becomes extremely hot to the touch, and he's

> mostly irritable and lethargic These episodes last several days. He is not

> " sick " during this time. This has been going on for over a year. Our

regular

> pediatrician blew us off with the line about giving him Tylenol if his

temp

> got too high. Our DAN doctor hasn't heard of any other complaints like

this,

> and kind of doubts bacteria or yeast would cause this, yhough he does not

> rule out the possibility. My son has evidence of high amounts of gut

bacteria

> which has come down only slightly after two months of Pro-Culture Gold

> probiotic. I suspect yeast also, and we are waiting for stool test results

to

> confirm.

>

> Anyone have ideas about hot body? I feel my son is burning up from the

inside

> out today.

>

> Thanks,

> Debbie

>

August 14, 2001

You know you are not crazy the body reacts with a fever to many things-he

could be just getting overheated though probably not the case as it lasts a

couple days. I t also could be another allergen-the body will react with

fever if it comes in contact with an allergen-you could see if his fevers

coincide with a common thing like a food or other substance. If he is bieng