Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

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Hi Amelia,

I was the one who wrote about LDN making me fatigued. It turned out that I was

taking too much (4mg). At 3mg, I have the same amount of fatigue I had pre-LDN.

I'm still no different then when I started LDN. I eat 2 cups of SCD yogurt a

day, and have begun a natural anti-fungal rotation. Last week I took garlic oil

everyday, and this week I'm taking olive leaf extract everyday. Next week I

might do grapefruit seed extract. I'm hesitant to try s. boulardii again,

because my last trial (last summer) gave me an annoying/disturbing ammonia-like

smell in my nose.

I'm also hesitant to go super low-carb and cut out all of the foods that are

supposed to be yeast triggers. I'd have a heck of a time getting enough calories

a day, not to mention that it would probably send me into a depression (I can

handle giving up all my favorite non-SCD foods, but don't know that I could

handle giving up the remaining SCD foods I love).

My eczema has been cleared up (with the exception of a quarter sized patch on

one palm) for several months. Epsom salt baths always helped when it was worse

though (when I started the diet, I broke out behind me knees really bad).

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

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> My husband is taking LDN and he isn't really seeing any difference. We did

notice his scalp started flaking more about the time he started it. Then we

noticed a small spot of eczema near the corner of one eye. I then started to

suspect, about 3 weeks later, that maybe he was having a problem with yeast. He

began taking s. boulardii at one capsule twice a day the first week, and is at

two capsules twice a day with 1 capsule of acidophilus twice a day. At this

point the eczema has spread to the corners of both eyes, both eyelids, and below

the eyes, under his arms, on his bum ; ) , and the scalp flaking is still there.

All this with feeling more fatigue again too. He did have a brief period of

feeling more rested, but as it is winter in the NE of Scotland, we are lacking

in sunshine at the moment!

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> Someone in the group had a problem similar, but I can't remember who. My

question is how long did it take to start improving, were you taking strong

probiotics/s. boulardii? Did you find any cream/essential oil to help? Did you

add/cut anything else out of your diet?

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> Thanks!

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> Amelia

> Husband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months

> LDN 3 mg.

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This may be OT to SCD but my old GYN doc (retired now) said because

the region we live in (Houston) is so humid that every female has

yeast issues.

Does that sound right? He mentioned not sleeping in sweats, taking off

pantyhose as soon as I got home--that type of thing. Completely

drying off after swimming or showering.

Any other ideas?

Debbie 40 cd

> Hey Eileen,

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> Did you get die off symptoms with nystatin? Tiredness, achiness, etc.

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>> I'm technically double diagnosed - celiac and crohns - though my 3rd GI

>> (the only one I slightly trust as he's open to SCD) said intestinal

>> corrosion based on other docs results-didn't want to label me with crohns

>> and I never really had crohns symptoms - just nausea - which is here as I

>> speak - so sick of this!! guessing it's yeast related but ???

>> also when he did his own scopes 9 months on SCD there was no corrosion for

>> him to see, so we'll never know what he would have said - oh well

>> Eileen 2 years scd

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Andy,He is doing o.k. The number of areas are increasing, but the severity isn't. Topically he is using Tea Tree oil lotion (just a good lotion containing 5% tea tree oil) and good quality coconut oil alternately. It seems to help it some. He is using coal tar shampoo (Neutrogena brand) for his scalp and it is helping a bit as well. He is taking s. boulardii and l. acidophilus capsules too. I think he will just have to work through this. At least he is keeping it at bay and is able to work and interact normally for now.Antibiotics are not going to help a fungal infection and will actually make it worse. The only time you would need the antibiotics is if you were to get a skin infection due to scratching too much. There are some

good over the counter creams to help with fungal infections -- basically anything labelled to help with 'jock itch' or 'athlete's foot' will help. I would try those and rotate with oil of oregano (mixed with a carrier oil like olive oil or almond oil) and grapefruit seed extract (again I think it needs to be in a carrier oil). Both are supposed to be very good both internally and externally for antimicrobial, yeast, parasites, etc. If taken internally, the extracts/oil can be mixed with edible oil or water/juice. I am so glad to hear that your colitis is under control! What great news!Progress may feel slow, but at least you are making it.AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 19 monthsLDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:41:29 AMSubject: Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

Amelia-

Sorry to hear about Sanjay. I hope he gets better. Has anything that you tried worked?

I didn't visit the forum but was following up the mails for a month. Because I didn't want to think about my illness, and just deal with it everyday.

I still have Prostatitis issues -- didn't take antibiotics.

I had fungal infection, which went away for after taking antibiotics but its back again now. Its on my genitals again. I don't know how to deal with it.

My colitis is under control, and I am able to eat more foods.

Why do so many of us have yeast issues? Is it an inherent issue with the diet that needs to be addressed? And how?

-Andy.

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Celiac alone would make sense because the intestinal corrosion would be a result

of the celiac.

I hope the rest of the issues clear up soon for you.

PJ

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> > > > > As you can tell, I am really rotten at who said what, but I was told a

story about yeast by a person on this (or the SCDUK) group. Her doctor told her

that research was done on yeast that showed it could take two forms--something

about a tail or a forked tail, something like that. Anyway, the point was they

could easily identify the forms. One form was more benign than the other. When

the yeast diet was followed -- i.e. cutting down/out fruit and honey, the yeast

tended to morph into the nastier form and became more difficult to kill off.

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> > > > > There, justification not to deny your little pleasures!

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> > > > > Husband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months

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Mara,What kind of dose would you suggest? I have one of the SAD lights, but he doesn't use it.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 11:16:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

That's not sufficient. You should get Vitamin D-3, a high dose. MaraDebbie,I think they would laugh us out of the clinic if we asked for that. I tried to ask to have his B12 tested, and basically, if you aren't dying from something, they don't test for it here. He is taking a multivitamin from Freedas that has D in it. I can tell you that nothing replaces sunshine, though. I knew I had depleted

my D reserves more than 5 years ago. Both of us are used to very sunny climates so I think it really bites hard living in a not so sunny climate. He starts complaining about the dark winter before it ever gets here! ; )

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5000 IUs for a while and then adjust down. In summer, especially if you spend much time outside, you don't necessarily needto take it. I stopped over the summer and fall, but now I'm back. MaraMara,What kind of dose would you suggest? I have one of the SAD lights, but he doesn't use it.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 11:16:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: Fighting Possible YeastThat's not sufficient. You should get Vitamin D-3, a high dose. MaraDebbie,I think they would laugh us out of the clinic if we asked for that. I tried to ask to have his B12 tested, and basically, if you aren't dying from something, they don't test for it here. He is taking a multivitamin from Freedas that has D in it. I can tell you that nothing replaces sunshine, though. I knew I had depleted my D reserves more than 5 years ago. Both of us are used to very sunny climates so I think it really bites hard living in a not so sunny climate. He starts complaining about the dark winter before it ever gets here! ; )

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Would rubbing coconut oil onto the affected, red areas be of any

help? It does have anti-fungal properties. What about using Lauricidin as part

of the anti-fungal rotation? (lauricidin.com)

Carol

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BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of blackguitarmaker

i've never had many " symptoms " per se but am having nausea again and

stool tests should tons of yeast and now fat and undigested foods - so it is

affecting me, my son has the same redness on his penis right now as you- 4

months into scd - i'm applying nystatin cream and he and I have no honey or

fruit and are only stage 3 (me) - he's just starting 3 today- you can get

calories w/o fruit and yeast triggers

In BTVC-SCD ,

" Andy Ram " wrote:

> I have yeast problem -- red and white coloration on my penis and foreskin.

I did take Diflucan, it went away only to come back.

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Eileen-

1. How and where did you do the stool test for yeast? Can regular MDs do it?

2. Is the basic idea to eliminate/minimize 'sugary' fruits and 'high carb'

veggies, including juices? Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans,

carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest

(at least for me).

I do see the Candida elimination diet in stages -- I don't get it?? How do you

get enough calories? I need ~1.5 to 2 K/day.

Some websites even suggest minimize 'yogurt' -- is that right? But SCD doesn't

say that -- may be because ours is fully fermented yogurt with tons of

probiotics.

3. Will S. boulardii help?

LIFE SUCKS.

I am sorry, I am pissed at the hand we're dealt with.

-Andy.