Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Thanks everyone for your feedback. Lilka - I'm not young but I'm not ancient...yet, haha. Jenn, keep in mind that I have had a kidney transplant, and that might make a difference. The lap band might be a good choice for someone like me, but it might not for someone else. Dr. Stiles told me that there is a problem with ulcers in the lower stomach sometimes with the lap band and it would be impossible to "see" them so this might be a real drawback. She also mentioned that there is a larger possibility of infection in the future. She is still in the deciding stage with me as far as which procedure. As far as I'm concerned, I will do whatever is best for me. Hope that helps and thanks again everyone for your input. in Cupertino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Lilka - with all due respect to your friend, I think he may have had a bit of a control problem. I can't imaging eating and throwing up - that would be awful. I gained my weight from steroids due to the transplant so I'm really hoping for the lap band. Thanks for the input - you're a sweetie! in Cupertino PS - are you going to the next meeting at SSF (third Saturday?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Jenn - I just got an order from www.bariatricadvantage.com. All their vitamins, B-12, Calcium, etc are chewable and not bad. I have all three and take them daily even though I haven't had the surgery yet. Hope that helps, in Cupertino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Let me get this straight, so now they offer the Lap Band? I think I would like that better than getting my stomach cut off. Wassup with that? Love, Jenn Jane wrote: I just had my appointment with Dr. Stiles on Friday (cool lady!!) and she mentioned that I may be eligible for the lap band procedure. Has anyone out there had this done yet? I'd be curious as to the outcome and how you feel about it. Also, what are the risks of the LB procedure? I'm surfing the web like crazy trying to find info but I think hearing from someone who has had it would help. Thanks! in Cupertino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Yes, they are now offering lap band but I think only to the young and the ancient, like me. But I sqeezed in just before they changed the policy. It is a safer procedure. It is not so invasive. You still have your stomach and its juices. You don't need extra vitamins. But it is bad for grazers (like me) because it is very easy to graze. I have a good friend who got it in Europe. He lost over a hundred pounds. When you start gaining they tighten the band again. Since he got it, he has survived open heart surgery and a skin tightening. He is happy. But here is the bad part. After eating an enormous dinner, he goes to the bathroom to throw it up. He returns to the table to finish off what is left on his plate. He does this 11 times a day. The last I saw him, he was gaining some weight back and he said he wished he had the other RNY procedure. He had the procedure because he had a weak heart so I think it has kept him alive, even through the open heart surgery. I would not want my large daughter to have RNY as it is so drastic and she would be dependent on vitamins all her life. That is not good. But I might approve this procedure. I would just hope she would not get into the habit of vomiting after every meal. I hope this helps. Lilka > I just had my appointment with Dr. Stiles on Friday (cool lady!!) and she mentioned that I may be eligible for the lap band procedure. Has anyone out there had this done yet? I'd be curious as to the outcome and how you feel about it. Also, what are the risks of the LB procedure? I'm surfing the web like crazy trying to find info but I think hearing from someone who has had it would help. > Thanks! > in Cupertino > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Hi there was a VERY interesting article regarding LAPS vs GBS in my paper in the last week or so....you might want to check it out...online tri-valley herald, which is an ANG newpaper, so go thru ang and then the Tri.... B Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 actually this is what I have heard about laps...you can eat huge portions and just adjust the band...You do not learn how to eat or to change anything...so not sure if I would have chosen it... but .... BLilka wrote: Yes, they are now offering lap band but I think only to the young and the ancient, like me. But I sqeezed in just before they changed the policy. It is a safer procedure. It is not so invasive. You still have your stomach and its juices. You don't need extra vitamins. But it is bad for grazers (like me) because it is very easy to graze. I have a good friend who got it in Europe. He lost over a hundred pounds. When you start gaining they tighten the band again. Since he got it, he has survived open heart surgery and a skin tightening. He is happy. But here is the bad part. After eating an enormous dinner, he goes to the bathroom to throw it up. He returns to the table to finish off what is left on his plate. He does this 11 times a day. The last I saw him, he was gaining some weight back and he said he wished he had the other RNY procedure. He had the procedure because he had a weak heart so I think it has kept him alive, even through the open heart surgery. I would not want my large daughter to have RNY as it is so drastic and she would be dependent on vitamins all her life. That is not good. But I might approve this procedure. I would just hope she would not get into the habit of vomiting after every meal. I hope this helps. Lilka> I just had my appointment with Dr. Stiles on Friday (cool lady!!) and she mentioned that I may be eligible for the lap band procedure. Has anyone out there had this done yet? I'd be curious as to the outcome and how you feel about it. Also, what are the risks of the LB procedure? I'm surfing the web like crazy trying to find info but I think hearing from someone who has had it would help.> Thanks!> in Cupertino> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Ohhhhh!!! I am So Excited! I am going to ask if I can have this done instead! Great Article! Thanks B! Love, Jenn P.S. Here is the link. Thanks again! http://www.insidebayarea.com/search/ci_3746192 BEEisMe wrote: Hi there was a VERY interesting article regarding LAPS vs GBS in my paper in the last week or so....you might want to check it out...online tri-valley herald, which is an ANG newpaper, so go thru ang and then the Tri.... B Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Ya, I know. I want to "ask for it" but I will ultimately go with whatever is best for me too. I'm stubborn, but not that stubborn! hahaha I am 51 bmi (is that what they call it) and I have almost all of the Co-Morbidities. I am 40. I think personally I would be a better candidate for Lap Band surgery because I find it hard to take, find, purchase all those darn vitamins. We'll see what happens. I will be bringing it up to them on May 17th when I go to my SSF meeting. I read in that article that Richmond is doing it now, that's where I am supposidly going to have surgery, so..... Thanks for the info again! Love, Jenn valkrey1@... wrote: Thanks everyone for your feedback. Lilka - I'm not young but I'm not ancient...yet, haha. Jenn, keep in mind that I have had a kidney transplant, and that might make a difference. The lap band might be a good choice for someone like me, but it might not for someone else. Dr. Stiles told me that there is a problem with ulcers in the lower stomach sometimes with the lap band and it would be impossible to "see" them so this might be a real drawback. She also mentioned that there is a larger possibility of infection in the future. She is still in the deciding stage with me as far as which procedure. As far as I'm concerned, I will do whatever is best for me. Hope that helps and thanks again everyone for your input. in Cupertino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Richmond is the only Kaiser facility doing Lap Band surgery now. However, according to the article recently posted, Kaiser SSF and other facilities will be coming up to speed soon. Sooooo, we may see more and more lap band procedures done! I, for one am doing the Happy Dance! in Cupertino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I went to orientation in Richmond on April 18th and they said there that they were doing the Lap Band now where it's merited. It sounds like it's a decision made by the doctor -- but, it's best to be a part of all those decisions if at all possible. I don't know anything about the Lap Band but I'm going to read that article now. Why would so many of you prefer it? I don't know. I need to read more about it. Thanks for the information. Sherri Hadsell wrote: Hey Everyone!If enough people wanted the Lap Band Procedure then Kaiser may be moreapt to give it to us if it is in our best interest.I for one, am going to ask about getting it.I feel that maybe since this has/is taking me so long to acheive (10%)then maybe this is why?I am not deathly afraid of surgery but I am upset that I need my stomachtaken out/removed (I know it's left in). But it was/is a upsetting thingto say the least.Hope anyone that would like to explore this issue with any of the Kaiseremployees, that you get back to us with what you say because I don't goagain to anything until May 17th.Thanks!Love,Jenn> Hi> there was a VERY interesting article regarding LAPS vs GBS in my paperin the last week or so....you might want to check it out...online>> tri-valley herald, which is an ANG newpaper, so go thru ang and thenthe Tri....>> B>> ---------------------------------> Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo!FareChase>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Yes, Richmond just started doing the Lap Band procedure this month, Fremont plans to start in June, and SSF sometime after they get more surgeons. I was told that the RNY is still the preferred method, but Kaiser will offer the Lap Band in select cases where the person may be too high risk for the RNY. I thought that the Lap Band might be suggested for me as I have multiple medical problems, including kidney disease, but my surgeon said that the RNY would be more beneficial. The Lap Band is less invasive, is a restrictive method only (not malabsorptive), and technically can be reversed, but isn't done with that intention. From what I have read, the negatives are that weight loss is slower, the overall loss is less (about 50% of your excess weight vs about 70% with the RNY), it can slip or become imbedded in your stomach, and it is easier to regain weight with the Lap Band. It has to be adjusted* about 4 times a year for life; * " the surgeon can control the amount of saline in the band by entering the reservoir with a fine needle through the skin. " You can read about the positive aspects of the Lap Band and see an interesting webcast of the procedure on this site: http://www.lap-band.com/about.html Rosemarie > Richmond is the only Kaiser facility doing Lap Band surgery now. However, > according to the article recently posted, Kaiser SSF and other facilities will > be coming up to speed soon. Sooooo, we may see more and more lap band > procedures done! I, for one am doing the Happy Dance! > > in Cupertino > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 One thing to consider very seriously is that the lap band procedure does not necessarily have the same effect on those of us who are diabetic as RNY. My understanding is that the American Diabetes Assn. recognizes RNY as the only " cure " for type II diabetes, but that lap band doesn't have as high a rate of reversing the disease. . . can anyone corroborate this? I used to feel that I would be better off having a " reversible " or " less drastic " procedure than RNY. However, after looking at the long-term effects and success rates, and at the way I eat (my personal patterns of behavior) I have come to believe that RNY is going to be a better choice for me. Cathy C. > Hi > there was a VERY interesting article regarding LAPS vs GBS in my paper in the last week or so....you might want to check it out...online > > tri-valley herald, which is an ANG newpaper, so go thru ang and then the Tri.... > > B > > --------------------------------- > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Lilka, I am by far no officianado on the subject, but it seems to me that if your friend is vomitting during and after each meal, there's something wrong on a psychological level. I mean, why else would anyone [especially someone who's had a surgical procedure to lose weight] go through all that? Most of what I know of the Lap Band procedure, I learned here... so it's not much. But if Kaiser is offering it as an alternative to RNY, it must have its merits. I cannot imagine throwing up is one of them. Ron Re: Lap Band Yes, they are now offering lap band but I think only to the young and the ancient, like me. But I sqeezed in just before they changed the policy. It is a safer procedure. It is not so invasive. You still have your stomach and its juices. You don't need extra vitamins. But it is bad for grazers (like me) because it is very easy to graze. I have a good friend who got it in Europe. He lost over a hundred pounds. When you start gaining they tighten the band again. Since he got it, he has survived open heart surgery and a skin tightening. He is happy. But here is the bad part. After eating an enormous dinner, he goes to the bathroom to throw it up. He returns to the table to finish off what is left on his plate. He does this 11 times a day. The last I saw him, he was gaining some weight back and he said he wished he had the other RNY procedure. He had the procedure because he had a weak heart so I think it has kept him alive, even through the open heart surgery. I would not want my large daughter to have RNY as it is so drastic and she would be dependent on vitamins all her life. That is not good. But I might approve this procedure. I would just hope she would not get into the habit of vomiting after every meal. I hope this helps. Lilka> I just had my appointment with Dr. Stiles on Friday (cool lady!!) and she mentioned that I may be eligible for the lap band procedure. Has anyone out there had this done yet? I'd be curious as to the outcome and how you feel about it. Also, what are the risks of the LB procedure? I'm surfing the web like crazy trying to find info but I think hearing from someone who has had it would help.> Thanks!> in Cupertino> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Oh boy, I didn't even consider that. I have horrible diabetes. I am on max. dosages on all my pills plus a little insulin lately. Totally forget it then! I'll have to go back thinking no stomach:( oh well, I knew this feeling was too good to be true! No big deal, I mean, I gotta have it done. Love, Jenn Cathy wrote: One thing to consider very seriously is that the lap band procedure does not necessarily have the same effect on those of us who are diabetic as RNY. My understanding is that the American Diabetes Assn. recognizes RNY as the only "cure" for type II diabetes, but that lap band doesn't have as high a rate of reversing the disease. . . can anyone corroborate this?I used to feel that I would be better off having a "reversible" or "less drastic" procedure than RNY. However, after looking at the long-term effects and success rates, and at the way I eat (my personal patterns of behavior) I have come to believe that RNY is going to be a better choice for me. Cathy C.> Hi> there was a VERY interesting article regarding LAPS vs GBS in my paper in the last week or so....you might want to check it out...online > > tri-valley herald, which is an ANG newpaper, so go thru ang and then the Tri....> > B> > ---------------------------------> Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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