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In a message dated 9/8/01 12:37:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

duodenalswitch writes:

<< t says " suicidality "

----which I gather to mean thoughts and feelings of suicide and

death, most depression leads to an apathy about life--nothing excites

you or impresses you--you donn't neccessarily have a death wish--

rather, feelings of just not waking up may be present without any

overt thinking of ending it all. >>

Thats kind of what I was thinking. I have been depressed most of my life,

but not suicidal most of my life or I wouldn't still be here!

Carole

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most depression leads to an apathy about life--nothing excites

> you or impresses you--you donn't neccessarily have a death wish--

> rather, feelings of just not waking up may be present without any

> overt thinking of ending it all. >>

> Thats kind of what I was thinking. I have been depressed most of

my life,

> but not suicidal most of my life or I wouldn't still be here!

> Carole

Carole--

There is a chronic low grade form of depression-called dysthymia.

This is very responsive to meds and and some behavior modification-

esp. in how you " talk " to yourself and respond to things around you.

Pammi

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> ok Liane

> i thought i could perhaps post to this group the same

> as anyone else on it........but i can see that u hold

> grudges and that i will not be able to post anything

> whether i have the knowlege or not or maybe that i

> possibly have more knowledge than u.

But that is just it.. you do not have the knowledge you claim to have.

It is not a flame.. I have responded to many other than you who have

reported incorrect information. If you see it as being " flamed " then

perhaps you should reexamine your motives here.. I seem to recall

seeing quite a few posts recently from you, and the only one I

responded to contained incorrect information (actually, now I have

responded to TWO incorrect posts from you).

.......i dont

> appreciate u flaming every post i make........if u

> can't keep your opinion to yourself or address me

> offlist, which would be most proper,

This from the person who attempted to drag my personal live OFF of

this list onto the list? Please.. I have nothing to say to you that

is so personal that it need be sent privately. Perhaps if your

information were correct, I would not feel compelled to respond to it.

I don't need attention.. I get it based on my merits, not because I

spread disinformation. I suppose is flaming you too? She said

essentially the same thing, yet you were appropriate in your response

to her. You just have issues.. and I don't care to get into that here.

You know well that if I wanted to do so, I could share quite a bit

more about you than I have.. but I have not, because you are (despite

what you seem to think) just not that important to me.

but not somthing

> i believe u are capable of doing because u like the

> attention.........you will never get me to leave this

> list tho u have earnestly tried.......i just wont post

> my experience or knowledge to the group and therefore

> noone will get the benefit of what i might have to

> say.....

When you actually have experience and knowledge, feel free to post..

but if you post something that is not correct, expect to hear about

it. As I said before.. I am not the only one who feels your post was

incorrect.. and yet you accuse only me of " flaming. " Please.. just

grow up. I don't care if you stay here or leave.. I have a life &

plenty of friends both on & offline.. Just post correct information &

do not try to appear as something that you are not, & I don't care

what you say. Heck, for that matter, post whatever you please.. if its

wrong, I'll just let someone else correct you.. and they will.

...i refuse to go round and round with u on

> this.......so consider this over.......you my sweet

> have won.......and i will never post again.......i did

> have your posts blocked for a long time, and its seems

> necessary to do that again.........i dont understand

> why we cant live and let live, but u apparetnly have a

> bee in your bonnnet and someone appointed u god. so

> get over it......do not direct another post to me, i

> will not engage in a flame war with u as u started

> last time.........if anyone wants my expertise about

> something...........shameful as it is, they will have

> to mail me privately, because lianne cannot tolerate

> when I post to the group. NOW who is being the grown

> up about this? if I can help anyone, please mail me

> privately, that way we wont frustrate or perturb

> liane, and god forbid we do that. And trust me baby I

> will tell Janice that u think that she does a useless

> job spouting useless knowldege that wont help anyone

> and of course Janice isn't the pinnacle of knowledge

> of any kind.

>

Oh my sweet Jesus.. you are getting help from a qualified health

professional about this conviction that you are so important to the

entire functioning of the world, aren't you?

By the way.. Janice(once again.. dragging my offlist life onto this

list) actually IS a social worker who does a fine job... She is very

intelligent and dedicated. YOU, on the other hand.. well.. you've

proven yourself thoroughly.. so enjoy.. I pity you, .. I really

do.

To anyone else wondering about this, feel free to ask offlist..

despite our girl's conviction that I'm out to get her, I'm not.. but I

don't care to post my offlist life online.

And .. if you assalt Janice in the office again.. you may lose

that job. Try to be professional, would you?

Sigh.. I knew this was coming.. but I won't be bullied into silence

because of this person.. bad information is bad information.

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