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I am not a moderator but wanted to respond and tell you how bad I feel about

you being flamed. No one should be flamed. I personally have never had that

happen to me or maybe was to dead in the head to notice.

I wish you would reconsider. I will miss your postings.

Angels hover ever near,

DS 4/11/01

Bowel obstruction 4/21/01

Dr Deveney @ OHSU

Starting wt 282, BMI 47

Current wt 222, BMI 37

Moderator or Co Moderator

> Would a moderator or comoderator of this list please

> email me, I have forgotten your names. I have a

> request. I want to know if all of my posts can be

> removed from the archives? Because I am flamed almost

> every time I post, I would prefer that none of my

> posts make it into the archives. If I believe I can

> contribute anything in the future i will email

> individuals or I will keep my information to myself.

> I really want my posts deleted from the archives.

> Please let me know if that is possible and how to go

> about doing it.

>

> This is truly not a very friendly list and I am only

> staying because i have learned alot not because it is

> pleasant or enjoyable to be here.

>

> Thank you

>

>

> _Marie60@...

>

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Moderator or Co Moderator

> Would a moderator or comoderator of this list please

> email me, I have forgotten your names. I have a

> request. I want to know if all of my posts can be

> removed from the archives? Because I am flamed almost

> every time I post, I would prefer that none of my

> posts make it into the archives. If I believe I can

> contribute anything in the future i will email

> individuals or I will keep my information to myself.

> I really want my posts deleted from the archives.

> Please let me know if that is possible and how to go

> about doing it.

>

> This is truly not a very friendly list and I am only

> staying because i have learned alot not because it is

> pleasant or enjoyable to be here.

>

> > Thank you

> >

> >

> > _Marie60@y...

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help?

> > Donate cash, emergency relief information

> > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/

> >

> >

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Moderator

Nevermind, I have figured out how to delete my posts

from the archives and I believe they are all gone.

What I will say at this point, is that as a MO person

all my life I have been treated like shit. I don't

come to this forum to be treated like shit by another

fatty who is talking out of her ample ass. If a

moderator does not step in and set us back on track,

this thread will continue on as long as liane's ass

has something to say. I will not be belittled and

called stupid, for god sakes the bitch doesn't even

know me.......i for one will not take it anymore, if

her ass responds, then so will I......I hope we get

some moderation soon cuz i am just plain tired of

liane's ass doing her talking for her.

--- LiliFrench@... wrote:

> Moderator or Co Moderator

> > Would a moderator or comoderator of this list

> please

> > email me, I have forgotten your names. I have a

> > request. I want to know if all of my posts can

> be

> > removed from the archives? Because I am flamed

> almost

> > every time I post, I would prefer that none of my

> > posts make it into the archives. If I believe I

> can

> > contribute anything in the future i will email

> > individuals or I will keep my information to

> myself.

> > I really want my posts deleted from the archives.

> > Please let me know if that is possible and how to

> go

> > about doing it.

> >

> > This is truly not a very friendly list and I am

> only

> > staying because i have learned alot not because

> it is

> > pleasant or enjoyable to be here.

> >

> > > Thank you

> > >

> > >

> > > _Marie60@y...

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help?

> > > Donate cash, emergency relief information

> > >

>

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/

> > >

> > >

>

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Lord..

Thank you for vindicating me. =)

I'm so terrible...

<WEG>

Liane

> > Moderator or Co Moderator

> > > Would a moderator or comoderator of this list

> > please

> > > email me, I have forgotten your names. I have a

> > > request. I want to know if all of my posts can

> > be

> > > removed from the archives? Because I am flamed

> > almost

> > > every time I post, I would prefer that none of my

> > > posts make it into the archives. If I believe I

> > can

> > > contribute anything in the future i will email

> > > individuals or I will keep my information to

> > myself.

> > > I really want my posts deleted from the archives.

> > > Please let me know if that is possible and how to

> > go

> > > about doing it.

> > >

> > > This is truly not a very friendly list and I am

> > only

> > > staying because i have learned alot not because

> > it is

> > > pleasant or enjoyable to be here.

> > >

> > > > Thank you

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _Marie60@y...

> > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help?

> > > > Donate cash, emergency relief information

> > > >

> >

> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/

> > > >

> > > >

> >

>

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no baby, only your fat ass was vindicated

--- " Lili F. " wrote:

> Lord..

> Thank you for vindicating me. =)

> I'm so terrible...

> <WEG>

> Liane

>

>

> > > Moderator or Co

> Moderator

> > > > Would a moderator or comoderator of this list

> > > please

> > > > email me, I have forgotten your names. I

> have a

> > > > request. I want to know if all of my posts

> can

> > > be

> > > > removed from the archives? Because I am

> flamed

> > > almost

> > > > every time I post, I would prefer that none

> of my

> > > > posts make it into the archives. If I

> believe I

> > > can

> > > > contribute anything in the future i will

> email

> > > > individuals or I will keep my information to

> > > myself.

> > > > I really want my posts deleted from the

> archives.

> > > > Please let me know if that is possible and

> how to

> > > go

> > > > about doing it.

> > > >

> > > > This is truly not a very friendly list and I

> am

> > > only

> > > > staying because i have learned alot not

> because

> > > it is

> > > > pleasant or enjoyable to be here.

> > > >

> > > > > Thank you

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _Marie60@y...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you

> help?

> > > > > Donate cash, emergency relief information

> > > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > > >

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At 14:56 -0700 9/15/01, J sat down at the computer, and sent this message:

>.I hope we get

>some moderation soon cuz i am just plain tired of

>liane's ass doing her talking for he

Wow! I hope nobody I know ever has to be your 'care' as a social

worker! What a great attitude, babe...

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...........

Did your mother teach you to talk like that?

If you have children is that how you speak to them?

I can curse with the best of them but you're testing the bounds of what is

reasonable on an open public list.

What a moderator will do is ban your posts to the public list; a happenstance

I for one would be thrilled to see happen. Liane's posts are not any better

but at least she is not attacking you verbally and as viciously as you seem

to be doing.

A wise person once said when you lose your temper you lose control. Why not

just stop and let the silence speak for itself!

J wrote:

> Moderator

>

> Nevermind, I have figured out how to delete my posts

> from the archives and I believe they are all gone.

> What I will say at this point, is that as a MO person

> all my life I have been treated like shit. I don't

> come to this forum to be treated like shit by another

> fatty who is talking out of her ample ass. If a

> moderator does not step in and set us back on track,

> this thread will continue on as long as liane's ass

> has something to say. I will not be belittled and

> called stupid, for god sakes the bitch doesn't even

> know me.......i for one will not take it anymore, if

> her ass responds, then so will I......I hope we get

> some moderation soon cuz i am just plain tired of

> liane's ass doing her talking for her.

>

>

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Best Regards,

Rich

" One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain "

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I have replied privately on this issue, and will copy my message here

for all to see. Please, let's get on with the business of the list and

not let this send us off on a prolonged tangent unrelated to our

charter. Thanks!

Sincerely,

----Included message----

The duodenalswitch Yahoo Groups mailing list was created as a place to

share information and support for the Duodenal Switch procedure. It is

not to be used as a forum to publicly expound on personal disputes or to

engage in slanderous attacks upon other individuals, surgeons, or

establishments. This type of behavior is against the group's rules of

conduct, and repeated infractions may result in the rule breaker(s)

being moderated and/or banned from the community.

We welcome everyone who wants to join, and we ask that all members abide

by the rules of the community in order to keep things helpful and

peaceful for everyone. This is a high volume mailing list, and angry

personal remarks and flame wars serve only to detract from our charter

and are ofensive to rule-abiding members.

Any questions or comments should be directed to the moderators at

duodenalswitch-owner . Thank you.

Sincerely,

Magruder, duodenalswitch moderator

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, please step away and take a breath. You're out

of control and might be banned from posting.

I did notice Liane's comment about you not being a doc

or something and the way she worded it sounded rude,

in my opinion. That's the only time I noticed her

putting you down but, then again, I wasn't looking for

it so I might have just missed it.

But I gotta say that if you were wrong in your

original posting, it's good you were corrected. Just

like I would want to be corrected if I posted

mis-info. I did think the first time she corrected

you she wasn't rude but the second time there was a

comment that probably shouldn't have been worded the

way it was. Anyway, this is just my opinion.

(Not that I thought Liane was evil or anything by her

wording, just that it came off as rude).

But your posts have become increasingly hostile and

profane and I think it's come to a point where you

have to get a reality check. It's not worth it to be

so angry. It's not worth it to you, to Liane, or to

the rest of us who are reading the posts.

Please, this is a group for people who are (or were)

very obese. We have enough problems in our lives with

trying to live with our large bodies... being subject

to discrimination... trying to fight the insurance

battle... jumping through the rest of the hurdles to

have the surgery which will literally save our lives.

Please, let's get back to supporting each other. This

should be a safe place for all of us.

dee

> J wrote:

>

> > Moderator

> >

> > Nevermind, I have figured out how to delete my

> posts from the archives and I believe they are all

gone.

> > What I will say at this point, is that as a MO

> person all my life I have been treated like shit. I

> don't come to this forum to be treated like shit by

> another fatty who is talking out of her ample ass.

If a moderator does not step in and set us back on

> track, this thread will continue on as long as

liane's ass has something to say. I will not be

belittled and called stupid, for god sakes the bitch

doesn't even know me.......i for one will not take it

anymore, if her ass responds, then so will I......I

hope we get some moderation soon cuz i am just plain

tired of liane's ass doing her talking for her.

> >

> >

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Whoops, sorry , I didn't see your posting

before I sent off mine.

dee

--- Magruder wrote:

> I have replied privately on this issue, and will

> copy my message here

> for all to see. Please, let's get on with the

> business of the list and

> not let this send us off on a prolonged tangent

> unrelated to our

> charter. Thanks!

>

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/

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> What I will say at this point, is that as a MO person

> all my life I have been treated like shit. I don't

> come to this forum to be treated like shit by another

> fatty who is talking out of her ample ass. If a

> moderator does not step in and set us back on track,

> this thread will continue on as long as liane's ass

> has something to say. I will not be belittled and

> called stupid, for god sakes the bitch doesn't even

> know me.......i for one will not take it anymore, if

> her ass responds, then so will I......I hope we get

> some moderation soon cuz i am just plain tired of

> liane's ass doing her talking for her.

>

Since I have no knowledge of this argument, I am taking no sides in

this, but I do wish to express my opinion on this statement. ,

you claim to have been treated like shit for all of your MO life, and

yet when you chose to argue with Liane, you attack her weight. If

you disagree with her, or hate her...whatever your feelings are,

don't be reduced to name calling about her weight on a forum

concerning weight issues and WLS.

I am appalled by this post on so many levels I don't know where to

start, but if I get nothing else across, the slanders over her weight

are beyond belief. I feel like I just flew back 20 years and are

listening to kids in a playground picking on the " fat kids " . Argue

the merits of your issue, don't attack on such a petty level. It is

no different then attacking someones race or physical limitations.

It is no different then picking on a blind girl for her lack of

sight, or an amputee for his missing limb.

In light of this weeks tragedy I am going to intrude with my own 2

cents. Again, I am not taking sides or getting involved in the

actual content of these arguments. Please, stop this pissing

contest. 5000 people are dead. Lives and families are destroyed.

if you have a problem with Liane, get over it. Its not worth

it. I have spoken with Liane before and she seems very nice, but not

everyone always likes everyone else. Whatever the issues are they

pale in light of what has occured on Sept. 11 and I for one will

hopefully be a better person for it.

To get back to this actual post and its content I will hope never to

again see a post where another poster is being called a " fatty " . It

is a physical judgement call that no one deserves and as a pre-op who

could still be defined as a " fatty " myself, I am offended. I have

had enough name calling to last me a lifetime...haven't you?

I came to this list to find info and in the process have come across

wonderful people (like Judie and others). Oddly enough, in the

process of gathering information, I have found my life experience

mirrored in the lives of others on this list. SO many of us have had

similar experiences, many of them not so fun. I can't even imagine

condemning anyone on this list for their obesity...we get enough of

that from society, strangers, and often from well meaning friends and

family. I guess thats all I have to say.

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In a message dated 9/15/2001 3:06:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

lisa_marie60@... writes:

<< I don't

come to this forum to be treated like shit by another

fatty who is talking out of her ample ass. >>

This is getting absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what issues you have, but

as you said, you have been treated bad because you are MO. What gives you the

right to make a statement such as this one. I do not appreciate reading

profanity on this list. If you feel the need to use profanity again, would

you be so kind as to send it in private e-mails please. I for one, do not

want to read ANYTHING like this again. Enough is enough.

Kim B.

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