Re: Re my submissions to this list apology

[Guest guest]

Phoenix Rising,

I have learned a long time ago that email can tick people off when it was

never intended to do that. Computerized mail removes the inflection that

would be in out voice that helps us to ascertain the intent.

You have never offend me but it is hard to do. I try not to take anything

personally unless it is sent that way.

Please know you can not please every one nor will you get by with out

offending some of the people some of the time. I feel it is the offended

persons problem if they become upset especially when it is not intended.

They are coming from areas that may be sensitive to them so they take it

personally.

I enjoy reading your posts. Do not let anyone or anything make you leave the

groups. I have seen to many good, knowledgeable people leave because of this

situation. My angel and friend Gobo left the lists because of this and a few

others too. Now we correspond privately but she really needs the group

because she is a recent post op and having some health issues.

So I say to you sensitive people please go on the belief that no one has

intended to offend.

Hugs to you Phoenix,

Angels hover ever near,

DS 4/11/01

Bowel obstruction 4/21/01

Dr Deveney @ OHSU

Starting wt 282

Current wt 222

Re my submissions to this list apology

>

> I seem to be so adamant about wanting to help with the experience I have

had

> that I inadvertently express my views in a way that Tick some people off,

> this is and never was my intention. In my years of illness I have tried

and

> experienced many things from medical procedures to hopeful fixes. There

has

> been alot of hurt in those years and I do not want anyone else to have to

> suffer what I have. My research into medical procedures and illnesses has

> led from Dr's offices, hospitals and medical text to the internet. My own

> Doctor's tell me I usually know more than they on different afflictions.

If

> you think this is a glorification statement it is not, it is a depressing

> fact of the medical system today. The frustration, and tears that come

with

> you look it up and give me the information " or on the topic of research

> drugs for MS, " you read about it and I will do what you want " leaves me

> exasperated to say the least. I did not go to Unversity to become a

Doctor,

> I am an Artist, business owner for liability purposes only, wife and a

> Mother. So I humbly apologize for my presentation on various topics

tonight

> and I wil refrain from comment from now on.

>

> Love and Hugs to all

> http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

> http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, I needed to hear that, I have good days and bad days. The bad

seem to be around far to often of late. I seem to be on a constant battle

fron,t three steps forward four back if you know what I mean and the support

around my home is less than desirable. Not being able to go out much

enhances the depression and tears, as I use to be very active and I was in

the public alot. I use to volunteer alot more, I was a School Trustee, I was

the first vice prsident of a Provincial Political party. I use to and I was

are in my life to much right now and Hopefully this operation will be the

milestone that reverses these statement to I am, and I can.

Love and Hugs to all

http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

-- Re: Re my submissions to this list apology

Phoenix Rising,

I have learned a long time ago that email can tick people off when it was

never intended to do that. Computerized mail removes the inflection that

would be in out voice that helps us to ascertain the intent.

You have never offend me but it is hard to do. I try not to take anything

personally unless it is sent that way.

Please know you can not please every one nor will you get by with out

offending some of the people some of the time. I feel it is the offended

persons problem if they become upset especially when it is not intended.

They are coming from areas that may be sensitive to them so they take it

personally.

I enjoy reading your posts. Do not let anyone or anything make you leave the

groups. I have seen to many good, knowledgeable people leave because of this

situation. My angel and friend Gobo left the lists because of this and a few

others too. Now we correspond privately but she really needs the group

because she is a recent post op and having some health issues.

So I say to you sensitive people please go on the belief that no one has

intended to offend.

Hugs to you Phoenix,

Angels hover ever near,

DS 4/11/01

Bowel obstruction 4/21/01

Dr Deveney @ OHSU

Starting wt 282

Current wt 222

[Guest guest]

She is having alot of problems with diarrhea. She seems a bit down to me.

She isn't writing much these days. She is having a hard time getting water

and protein in too.

She is all alone. No family in the area.

Cynce

Re: Re my submissions to this list apology

> Cynec,

> I agree with everything you said. By the way, how is Gobo doing? Ive

been

> thinking about her

>

> Judie

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

It will be. do not lose faith. The great thing is after the surgery

everything begins to change.

It is a rebirth.

Hugs,

Re: Re my submissions to this list apology

>

> Phoenix Rising,

> I have learned a long time ago that email can tick people off when it was

> never intended to do that. Computerized mail removes the inflection that

> would be in out voice that helps us to ascertain the intent.

> You have never offend me but it is hard to do. I try not to take anything

> personally unless it is sent that way.

> Please know you can not please every one nor will you get by with out

> offending some of the people some of the time. I feel it is the offended

> persons problem if they become upset especially when it is not intended.

> They are coming from areas that may be sensitive to them so they take it

> personally.

> I enjoy reading your posts. Do not let anyone or anything make you leave

the

> groups. I have seen to many good, knowledgeable people leave because of

this

> situation. My angel and friend Gobo left the lists because of this and a

few

> others too. Now we correspond privately but she really needs the group

> because she is a recent post op and having some health issues.

> So I say to you sensitive people please go on the belief that no one has

> intended to offend.

> Hugs to you Phoenix,

> Angels hover ever near,

>

> DS 4/11/01

> Bowel obstruction 4/21/01

> Dr Deveney @ OHSU

> Starting wt 282

> Current wt 222

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, the thing is you get hope and then it is dashed to pieces and you

say I will not get my hpes up again, and wallla You've done it again, crash

and burn. One wonders how many crashes and burns one can take.

Love and Hugs to all

http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

-- Re: Re my submissions to this list apology

It will be. do not lose faith. The great thing is after the surgery

everything begins to change.

It is a rebirth.

Hugs,

Re: Re my submissions to this list apology

> Thank you, I needed to hear that, I have good days and bad days. The bad

> seem to be around far to often of late. I seem to be on a constant battle

> fron,t three steps forward four back if you know what I mean and the

support

> around my home is less than desirable. Not being able to go out much

> enhances the depression and tears, as I use to be very active and I was in

> the public alot. I use to volunteer alot more, I was a School Trustee, I

was

> the first vice prsident of a Provincial Political party. I use to and I

was

> are in my life to much right now and Hopefully this operation will be the

> milestone that reverses these statement to I am, and I can.

>

>

>

> Love and Hugs to all

> http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

> http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

[Guest guest]

Sorry for the delay in response, I am on about 26 lists so you can imagine

the email load. also I look after my almost 3 year old grandaughter. Whoooo!

Thank you for your thoughts

Love and Hugs to all

http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

-- Re: Re my submissions to this list apology

You don't need to apologize. I've had the same experience. I'm one of those

people that obsess over information. So, when something happens I research

it to death. I, too, usually know more about stuff than my drs. do. I find

it very frustrating. In fact this is what led me to this group. Having

severe diarrhea and my dr. telling me " It will take time " . I knew there had

to be something I could do about it. And I've found the help here. From

people like you who do know stuff. So, please don't deprive us of your

valuable knowledge.

Micky

Re my submissions to this list apology

>

> I seem to be so adamant about wanting to help with the experience I have

had

> that I inadvertently express my views in a way that Tick some people off,

> this is and never was my intention. In my years of illness I have tried

and

> experienced many things from medical procedures to hopeful fixes. There

has

> been alot of hurt in those years and I do not want anyone else to have to

> suffer what I have. My research into medical procedures and illnesses has

> led from Dr's offices, hospitals and medical text to the internet. My own

> Doctor's tell me I usually know more than they on different afflictions.

If

> you think this is a glorification statement it is not, it is a depressing

> fact of the medical system today. The frustration, and tears that come

with

> you look it up and give me the information " or on the topic of research

> drugs for MS, " you read about it and I will do what you want " leaves me

> exasperated to say the least. I did not go to Unversity to become a

Doctor,

> I am an Artist, business owner for liability purposes only, wife and a

> Mother. So I humbly apologize for my presentation on various topics

tonight

> and I wil refrain from comment from now on.

>

> Love and Hugs to all

> http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

> http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

You don't need to apologize. I've had the same experience. I'm one of those

people that obsess over information. So, when something happens I research

it to death. I, too, usually know more about stuff than my drs. do. I find

it very frustrating. In fact this is what led me to this group. Having

severe diarrhea and my dr. telling me " It will take time " . I knew there had

to be something I could do about it. And I've found the help here. From

people like you who do know stuff. So, please don't deprive us of your

valuable knowledge.

Micky

Re my submissions to this list apology

>

> I seem to be so adamant about wanting to help with the experience I have

had

> that I inadvertently express my views in a way that Tick some people off,

> this is and never was my intention. In my years of illness I have tried

and

> experienced many things from medical procedures to hopeful fixes. There

has

> been alot of hurt in those years and I do not want anyone else to have to

> suffer what I have. My research into medical procedures and illnesses has

> led from Dr's offices, hospitals and medical text to the internet. My own

> Doctor's tell me I usually know more than they on different afflictions.

If

> you think this is a glorification statement it is not, it is a depressing

> fact of the medical system today. The frustration, and tears that come

with

> you look it up and give me the information " or on the topic of research

> drugs for MS, " you read about it and I will do what you want " leaves me

> exasperated to say the least. I did not go to Unversity to become a

Doctor,

> I am an Artist, business owner for liability purposes only, wife and a

> Mother. So I humbly apologize for my presentation on various topics

tonight

> and I wil refrain from comment from now on.

>

> Love and Hugs to all

> http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

> http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

>

>