Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Dear se, I so totally understand where you are at. I have been going through some of the same struggles. I have gained back some of my weight this past year and am no where near my goal weight. There are some things that I have had to come to terms with. The biggest one is that the more carbs I ate the hungry I got and the more carbs I ate and the hungry I got. Eating carbs is a vicious cycle. Once I stopped eating carbs and started eating protein as my first priority, the hunger stopped. I know it is hard. It nearly drove me crazy. The other thing I would like to mention here is that you have gone from 324 lbs to 208 lbs. Although not at your ideal weight, it is certainly a good weight loss. I, for one, am very proud of you. Give yourself credit for a job well done. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Fri, 16 May 2003 07:31:29 EDT SheDreamz@... writes: > Well...it has been a long, long, long time since I posted. > > I've been having a hard time lately and I have started to gain > weight. My > lowest ever was 196. I am now at 208. 12 pounds heavier than my > lowest and > I am feeling pretty firghtened. > > I think what's scaring me is I can't seem to manage the high > pressure job and > the focus on diet/exercise/personal health. It's like when the > situation > gets tough work wise, my only means of comfort seems to be eating, > eating, > eating. > > I hardly see the trainer anymore. I don't ever exercise on my own > anymore. > I order ONLY crap for meals. And eat the whole portion and then > some! And I > snack, snack, snack. Plus there's the drinking. Been going out > 2-3x a week > and consuming one drink after another without any realization of the > calories > involved. > > And I can't seem to get full. But I feel physically hungry > virtually all the > time. Like right now. I had a whole bagel and here I am still > hungry. > Literally WANTING food. Fighting back the desire. And eventually > it just > takes over and I will give in. > > I so loved this surgery because it seemed to stop the constant > hunger I've > always felt. And my ability to consume large quantities of food was > > eliminated. Now, it's not like that anymore. > > I'm scared. > > I want to talk to a doctor but my doctor is no help with the failure > of his > work! He just seems so disinterested in my weight gain. Tells me > it's > normal!!!!!!!!!! > > > > se > Baltimore, MD > Open RNY 11/22/99, Dr. Sweet, Reading, PA > <A > HREF= " http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336 " >http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336</A> > > > > 11/22/99 324, BMI 51 > 12/6/99 301, BMI 47 > 1/27/00 280, BMI 44 > 2/22/00 270, BMI 42 > 3/16/00 262, BMI 41 > 5/31/00 244, BMI 38 (no longer extremely obese... just plain > obese) > 7/22/00 224, BMI 35 > 9/23/00 220, BMI 34 (and still obese) > 10/16/00 216, BMI 34 > 11/7/00 210, BMI 33 (65 pounds from goal!!!) > 5/8/01 196, BMI 31 (new goal 157; I am 5'7 " that would give > me a BMI > of 24.6; 39 pounds to go) > 9/13/01 196, BMI 31 (Stuck!) > 4/2/02 200, ARGH! Very frightening moment. Hopefully I can > lose back > down to 190 quickly! > 4/28/02 201 (started a starch-free, 4 hours a week of exercise > > program...weighed in at the gym) > 9/22/02 Tummy Tuck, Thigh Lift, and Lower Back Lift, Dr. > Shermack, s > Hopkins, Bayview, > Baltimore, MD -- 12 pounds of skin removed!! > 5/15/03 208!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ouch. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 se, I'm so sorry you're having to go through this. Your surgery was just a few months after mine, and I know how motivated you were and how hard you worked at it. I have no great words of wisdom except that there are times when we all go through these slumps and just hope to lift ourselves out of it before too much damage has been done. Your motivation will hit again, it's only a matter of time, I'm sure of it. Just come here and scream and cry and do whatever you want...you know we all understand, and we share your fear. Hugs, in NJ ************************ > Well...it has been a long, long, long time since I posted. > I've been having a hard time lately and I have started to gain weight. My lowest ever was 196. I am now at 208. 12 pounds heavier than my lowest and I am feeling pretty firghtened. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Hey se - just wanted you to know you are not alone in any of these thoughts, feelings and experiences. You have an excellent grasp of what you're doing wrong, and what needs to be done right. This is not something I'd blame on your doctor - it's just the way it is, and it is within your control to change. It's frustrating that it's so hard to change. I sit and stare at the food choices, know the healthy vs. the unhealthy one, and all to often intentionally make the wrong choice! I find that it helps to tackle one small area at a time for me, rather than turning my world upside down. Four weeks ago I gave up sugar (again!!). So now that I feel okay with that and the worst of the cravings are gone, I am giving up bread. I know where my weaknesses are It's harder to readjust my thinking in a world where sugar seems to be the reward for everything, but it is apparently possible. Good luck se! We're with you. Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Hi Vicki, Thanks so much for your post...I'm glad I'm not the only one struggling with munchies due to stress. I've been on this site for a while, but not much of a poster -- had open RNY 4/11/01; panniculectomy 12/19/02; started at 305, now around 172; joined a new gym a month ago and started working out with a trainer, so hoping to tone and lose another 15 lbs. Work and life have been stressful this summer, and I've found myself eating a lot of things I had stopped thinking about. Yesterday was not an easy one and found myself ordering pizza before I'd even thought about it...after I got off the phone I thought " well, that was stupid, but at least I'll have lunch for the week now. " Thanks for helping me realize that life's stressful for everyone, and what I'm going through is not unique and that it will pass. Hope things get better for you! - > 24. Struggling > >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 24 > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:36:59 -0000 > >Subject: Struggling > >Howdy all, > >I just have to put this out there. I am really white knuckling it >right now. The munchies have got me bad. I know the reasons...lots >of small stuff, all inconsequential by themselves, but they add up to >stress and boredom. I also know the answer, but I feel terribly >unmotivated right now. > >It is so weird. A month ago I was gung ho and couldn't imagine >living any other way. But I guess the old bad habits can rear their >ugly heads when we least expect it. Another reminder that this is a >lifetime battle, not just a temporary fix. > >Luckily I haven't gained any weight, but if I don't straighten up, it >is just a matter of time. > >I will try to go back to the gym today despite my ripped out >shoulder. Even if I only do half an hour on the bike, it should >relieve stress and at least make me feel like I did something good >for myself. > >I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but I wouldn't be >surprised if I'm in for a long haul with my husband being out of >work. It's nice having him around because now he has a very positive >attitude. But people here near Silicon Valley are out of work 1-2 >years, even the quite experienced people. There's just no work. I >need to be especially attentive to staying on an even keel if it >should take hubby awhile to find something. I don't worry >financially, but it definitely takes an emotional toll on the job >seeker. Hopefully I won't be the target, if you know what I mean. > >Well, that all may not happen and I will keep a positive attitude >both for myself, my hubby and my family. But forewarned is >forearmed. This three day slip is a good warning to me that I need >to be more in tune with what is happening inside me. > >There's nothing that can happen which stuffing my face will make >better. > >Onward ho! > >Smiles, > >Vicki A. > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 , I think we all go through this. I also think that just like " normal " people this is something we will ALWAYS have to deal with. I have a size 6 sister who couldn't gain weight if she tried (and believe me she has!). She stress eats! You would NOT believe how much food she can consume. It startles me every time I have dinner with her. I have finally adjusted to the fact that she got the skinny gene and I got the fat one! What a pain in the back side. We both would be happy with the middle of the road gene! Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice -----Original Message----- From: Freeman Hi Vicki, ................Thanks for helping me realize that life's stressful for everyone, and what I'm going through is not unique and that it will pass. Hope things get better for you! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 The whole point of radio talk show people is to keep the pot stirred up and create divisiveness. It's their job, so I wouldn't take him too seriously. Also, I'm 5 years out and my WLS did help me head a whole heck of a lot. I'm finally able to apply with relative ease some of the stuff I learned in the nutrition classes I took during liquid fasts. It ain't me, I promise. It's the surgery. I'm not trying to be divisive, but " knock on wood, " it's been easy for me to eat well. I wish I had never been obese, but I thank heaven every day for the relief. Kinda' like it feels so good to stop banging my head against the wall. Since I moved out of my house for remodeling, I threw away 5 years of Bon Appetit magazine. I stared at my Cuisinart and wondered what in the heck I'd ever us it for, but it was too expensive to toss. Food is great, but it just stopped being as important when I got stapled. I am one grateful person. Just a little different view from a different person, in Austin RNY April 1998 Re: Struggling > Vicki, > Thanks for sharing. I have heard one radio talk show person here > in the DFW area bashing the weight loss surgeries because he sees it as > the easy way out. It is not and has never been the easy way out for me. > I suspect that is true for most of us. What so many people don't realize > is that the cravings are still there. Then brain did not get an attitude > adjustment. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > SRVG 7/16/01 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > 479/335/??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 I hadn't really thought if the whole head thing quite that way. I must admit that my eating is better then it ever has been and I can now use the nutrition class info better today then ever before. The nutrition classes actually make sense now. However, it has not completely taken away the some of the food cravings. I don't always give into my cravings. Infact, most of the time I don't. But my mind has a wonderful way of justifying my slips. They are just slips though and not a complete way of life anymore. Thanks for the input. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/335/??? On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:24:36 -0500 " YahooDave " writes: > The whole point of radio talk show people is to keep the pot stirred > up and > create divisiveness. It's their job, so I wouldn't take him too > seriously. > > Also, I'm 5 years out and my WLS did help me head a whole heck of a > lot. > I'm finally able to apply with relative ease some of the stuff I > learned in > the nutrition classes I took during liquid fasts. It ain't me, I > promise. > It's the surgery. > > I'm not trying to be divisive, but " knock on wood, " it's been easy > for me to > eat well. I wish I had never been obese, but I thank heaven every > day for > the relief. Kinda' like it feels so good to stop banging my head > against > the wall. Since I moved out of my house for remodeling, I threw > away 5 > years of Bon Appetit magazine. I stared at my Cuisinart and > wondered what > in the heck I'd ever us it for, but it was too expensive to toss. > Food is > great, but it just stopped being as important when I got stapled. I > am one > grateful person. > > Just a little different view from a different person, > in Austin > RNY April 1998 > > Re: Struggling > > > > Vicki, > > Thanks for sharing. I have heard one radio talk show > person here > > in the DFW area bashing the weight loss surgeries because he sees > it as > > the easy way out. It is not and has never been the easy way out > for me. > > I suspect that is true for most of us. What so many people don't > realize > > is that the cravings are still there. Then brain did not get an > attitude > > adjustment. > > > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > > SRVG 7/16/01 > > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > > 479/335/??? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 My feeling about " slips " is that I try to enjoy them as thoroughly as possible and drop the guilt-trip when they're satisfied. If I'm going to eat a half or 3/4 of a cookie, I'm going to enjoy every single bite of it. I remember asking my surgeon if I'd ever eat a cookie again. He dryly replied, " You may eat one, but you won't be eating two. " Take care, in Austin RNY April 1998 Re: Struggling > I hadn't really thought if the whole head thing quite that way. I must > admit that my eating is better then it ever has been and I can now use > the nutrition class info better today then ever before. The nutrition > classes actually make sense now. However, it has not completely taken > away the some of the food cravings. I don't always give into my > cravings. Infact, most of the time I don't. But my mind has a wonderful > way of justifying my slips. They are just slips though and not a > complete way of life anymore. Thanks for the input. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > SRVG 7/16/01 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > 479/335/??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Dave, I am just curious though ... have you ever eaten 5 or 6 at one time post-op? That was happening to me. I was finding I would eat one. Walk out of the kitchen. Walk back in, eat another, etc. It scared me to think that I was doing this. For me, it's better just not to have the cookies around. A year ago I could do the one half, even one cookie. But today I believe I could polish off an entire bag of cookies in one night ... one cookie at a time. I don't believe that everyone is like that. I just believe that I happen to be one of those people who is addictive. Re: Struggling > I hadn't really thought if the whole head thing quite that way. I must > admit that my eating is better then it ever has been and I can now use > the nutrition class info better today then ever before. The nutrition > classes actually make sense now. However, it has not completely taken > away the some of the food cravings. I don't always give into my > cravings. Infact, most of the time I don't. But my mind has a wonderful > way of justifying my slips. They are just slips though and not a > complete way of life anymore. Thanks for the input. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > SRVG 7/16/01 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > 479/335/??? > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Raggedy, I've never eaten 5 or 6 at one time post-op. One is plenty and then I get woozy. I *do* still practice " environmental control " and don't keep a bag in the cupboard or anything. I still wouldn't eat 5 or 6 at one time, but I'd definitely be eating one a day. I really don't keep a lot of food around the house. I usually have whole wheat woven crackers from Whole Foods. Sometimes I keep some kind of cheese spread, like pimiento cheese. And some olives. Otherwise, it's all take-out in portions that are decided at the store. I stop by a store at night and buy a protein, usually fish, and some kind of greenish vegetable. Later on, in the evening, I wish I had bought more, but survive without it. I bought what I wanted at the time. in Austin RNY April 1998 Re: Struggling > Dave, I am just curious though ... have you ever eaten 5 or 6 at one time post-op? That was happening to me. I was finding I would eat one. Walk out of the kitchen. Walk back in, eat another, etc. It scared me to think that I was doing this. > For me, it's better just not to have the cookies around. A year ago I could do the one half, even one cookie. But today I believe I could polish off an entire bag of cookies in one night ... one cookie at a time. > > I don't believe that everyone is like that. I just believe that I happen to be one of those people who is addictive. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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