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--- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Judie Hensel " Said---

>.....I even got kicked off one of them for trying

> to explain the DS to one who was still searching! Its almost like

>the moderator would rather they have the RNY and suffer as she did

>than let it be known there is another better way......

>

> Judie

Judie-

I was in the ObesityHelp chat telling a newbie researching WLS about

the DS, & one of the RnYers asked me to leave because I was making HER

uncomfortable.. I told her that last I checked, ObesityHelp promotes

learning about ALL types of WLS, not just RnY, & while I was sorry she

was uncomfortable, I was not talking to her, & planned on finishing my

convo.. then someone else piped up saying that I had " an agenda " ...I

very sweetly said that it seemed to me that if two persons are having

a conversation in an open, unmoderated chat room and nothing

derogatory or untruthful is being said that those NOT involved in the

convo who are attempting to control the topic of conversation must

have the agenda... if they don't like what they are learning, it's

not my problem. It got very quiet for a while, & I went on talking to

the newbie.. I'm not going to be bullied out of the chatroom by a

bunch of insecure RnYers.

Hugs,

Liane

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That's right, stand up for whats right. How could you not tell that person

the other alternative some people just have major tunnel vision.

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Re: regain

> --- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Judie Hensel " Said---

> >.....I even got kicked off one of them for trying

> > to explain the DS to one who was still searching! Its almost like

> >the moderator would rather they have the RNY and suffer as she did

> >than let it be known there is another better way......

> >

> > Judie

>

> Judie-

> I was in the ObesityHelp chat telling a newbie researching WLS about

> the DS, & one of the RnYers asked me to leave because I was making HER

> uncomfortable.. I told her that last I checked, ObesityHelp promotes

> learning about ALL types of WLS, not just RnY, & while I was sorry she

> was uncomfortable, I was not talking to her, & planned on finishing my

> convo.. then someone else piped up saying that I had " an agenda " ...I

> very sweetly said that it seemed to me that if two persons are having

> a conversation in an open, unmoderated chat room and nothing

> derogatory or untruthful is being said that those NOT involved in the

> convo who are attempting to control the topic of conversation must

> have the agenda... if they don't like what they are learning, it's

> not my problem. It got very quiet for a while, & I went on talking to

> the newbie.. I'm not going to be bullied out of the chatroom by a

> bunch of insecure RnYers.

> Hugs,

> Liane

>

>

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In a message dated 9/8/01 4:50:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> Its almost like the

> moderator would rather they have the RNY and suffer as she did than let it

> be known there is another better way......

>

>

I believe they are jealous when we talk about how we can eat etc. I'm sure

there are many successful and happy RNYers but I don't understand the denial

when we try to give information. I personally think its important to know

EVERY type of WLS surgery so we can all make informed decisions. Whats great

for one of us is not for the other. I LOVE my results and I want to share

them just like all the RNY's want to share their results. It shouldnt be a

problem.

~~* AJ *~~

Age 37 5'8''

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 390.2 -24.9 lbs! -10.75 inches

08/16/01 BMI 58 387.0 -28.1 lbs! -11.25 inches

08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs! -15.5 inches

08/30/01 BMI 58 378.3 -36.8 lbs! -21.25 inches

My personal website: www.WLS4AJ.homestead.com

Check out the Bellingham Support Group at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

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I don't understand the denial

when we try to give information. >>>>>>

exactly! Im on one list where I was from the very beginning and Im the only

DSer there and Ive had no problems.....I have even met two of them last

June! But the other lists....you are just not accepted there if you are a

DSer and a success.....come to think of it, have you ever heard of a bad DS

or DSers regaining and panicing about their problems like the RNYers on the

ossg_hungry list?

Judie

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> I personally think its important to know

> EVERY type of WLS surgery so we can all

> make informed decisions.

I think post-op RNY folks who are behind the anger/attitude.

After all, if you had just spent every cent you had for a beat-up,

rusted out Dodge, wouldn't you be pissed off if somebody came along

and told you she got a Ferrari for the same price?

Tom

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> After all, if you had just spent every cent you had for a beat-up,

> rusted out Dodge, wouldn't you be pissed off if somebody

came along

> and told you she got a Ferrari for the same price?

Oh, I hate it when that happens. And you're right, Tom. I'd rather

they just didn't tell me if that were the case.

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> I think post-op RNY folks who are behind the anger/attitude.

>

> After all, if you had just spent every cent you had for a beat-up,

> rusted out Dodge, wouldn't you be pissed off if somebody came along

> and told you she got a Ferrari for the same price?

>

> Tom

Careful, Tom.. we have an '89 Dodge Ramcharger(no rust, tho..).. its

tough as nails, & when we took it to be inspected & it failed (leaky

exhaust manifold), the inspector STILL tried to buy it from us!

Pick a more appropriate clunker.. like ohhh, sayyyy a Yugo?

lol..

Hugs,

Liane

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