Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Ceep, There is a sublingual in the same family as the Wellbutrin. I can't remember what the name is, Zoloft maybe, but it might be worth checking into. She might want to check into a liquid form of anti-depressant as well. I am a little surprised about not being able to grind the Wellbutrin though. I did for 3 months with no adverse side effects. Of course, if she is throwing up it won't make much difference. Other then the medication, some therapy right now might help her until she can get back on the meds. I know journaling also helped me a lot early on. I usually started each journal entry with a gratitude list (minimum 5 items.) The gratitude list would allow me to focus on the positive more then the negative. Hope this helps some. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/335/??? On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 20:00:09 EDT lacorona@... writes: > Dear brave souls: > There is a person who has been in touch with me this evening by > email; PLease > those of you who have any similar issues, write to me onlist or > privatly with > your advice and opinion? Here is the situ. The person is about 4 > weeks post > op, and WAS taking a cocktail pre-op of 300mg Effexor,400 mg > Wellbutrin,and > 60mg of Dexedrine. Her shrink nixed the Wellbutrin because she has > not been able > to eat, is having throwing up probs (ds), and can't " grind the > medication. " > The Dexedrine was nixed because she cannot eat and doc is concerned > " re: more > gastric distress for her. " However, she has been pitched into a near > > full-blown depression and is suffering deeply. She is aware that > this situ is > relatively uncharted territory for gbers. > > What do you think? I think we have to think in terms of risk vs > benefit, and > she knows to run everything by her doc. I wouldn't normally ask, but > I am > concerned very much to hear any one else's experience or hunches. > > Thank you, you guys are great. > love, > ceep > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Is she trying to take the Effexor xr capsules. There are regular small 75mg pills. She can take one at a time throughout the day with crackers. Also a once a day prilosec type of pill will help. The pills are bitter so she has to get them back quickly. She will not survive without her meds. If need be get her back into the hospital so she can get it in IV until her stomach is under control. Also as a suicide prevention. Fay Bayuk **300/168 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Click for My Profile <A HREF= " http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008 " >http:\ //obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 My opinion on this matter is that severe depression is very, very dangerous. It can be life threatening. I don't know what specific advice to give, but IMHO, any doctor who really understood about depression would in no way take someone off of it cold turkey, with no replacement, for any reason. Some doctors don't have a clue how serious depression can be. It slows down the healing process at best, and it can kill you at worst. As I'm sitting here thinking about it, I'm so mad at that doctor I could spit. It is irresponsible to take someone off depression meds cold turkey. Even though she is having trouble taking the Wellbutrin, instead of just nixing it, he needs to find a way for her to take it, or find another antidepressent. There is no reason that Wellbutrin cannot be crushed, as long as it is not the time-released kind. I think it is imperative to treat the depression aggresively at this point, and soon. This whole situation scares me silly. Please do something soon. As you may have guessed, I speak from experience. Barbara Jean PLEASE help Ceep?? > Dear brave souls: > There is a person who has been in touch with me this evening by email; PLease > those of you who have any similar issues, write to me onlist or privatly with > your advice and opinion? Here is the situ. The person is about 4 weeks post > op, and WAS taking a cocktail pre-op of 300mg Effexor,400 mg Wellbutrin,and > 60mg of Dexedrine. Her shrink nixed the Wellbutrin because she has not been able > to eat, is having throwing up probs (ds), and can't " grind the medication. " > The Dexedrine was nixed because she cannot eat and doc is concerned " re: more > gastric distress for her. " However, she has been pitched into a near > full-blown depression and is suffering deeply. She is aware that this situ is > relatively uncharted territory for gbers. > > What do you think? I think we have to think in terms of risk vs benefit, and > she knows to run everything by her doc. I wouldn't normally ask, but I am > concerned very much to hear any one else's experience or hunches. > > Thank you, you guys are great. > love, > ceep > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 In a message dated 6/29/03 5:38:13 PM, ray@... writes: << Finding the right medication to treat depression in an individual can be a trial and error process. Even without a gastric bypass, what will work for one will do nothing for another. I take a 40 mg tablet of Paxil and that seems to help me. Ray Hooks For WLS nutrition info, visit http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com >> Thanks Ray, I appreciate your telling your experience. I will pass it along to her. Poor soul, she is suffering. all best ceep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Finding the right medication to treat depression in an individual can be a trial and error process. Even without a gastric bypass, what will work for one will do nothing for another. I take a 40 mg tablet of Paxil and that seems to help me. Ray Hooks For WLS nutrition info, visit http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com lacorona@... wrote: > > Dear brave souls: > There is a person who has been in touch with me this evening by email; PLease > those of you who have any similar issues, write to me onlist or privatly with > your advice and opinion? Here is the situ. The person is about 4 weeks post > op, and WAS taking a cocktail pre-op of 300mg Effexor,400 mg Wellbutrin,and > 60mg of Dexedrine. Her shrink nixed the Wellbutrin because she has not been able > to eat, is having throwing up probs (ds), and can't " grind the medication. " > The Dexedrine was nixed because she cannot eat and doc is concerned " re: more > gastric distress for her. " However, she has been pitched into a near > full-blown depression and is suffering deeply. She is aware that this situ is > relatively uncharted territory for gbers. > > What do you think? I think we have to think in terms of risk vs benefit, and > she knows to run everything by her doc. I wouldn't normally ask, but I am > concerned very much to hear any one else's experience or hunches. > > Thank you, you guys are great. > love, > ceep > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Zoloft is easy on my pouch. I take a relatively small dose of 50 mg once a day. I take 1/2 of a 100mg tablet. It is about the size of a slightly elongated pea and should fit through almost any stoma. I have a sensitive pouch, but Zoloft has never bothered me... in fact... it gave me back myself when I didn't even know I was missing... Deb > > > Thanks Ray, I appreciate your telling your experience. I will > pass it along > to her. Poor soul, she is suffering. > all best > ceep > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Okay, in defense of the doctor though, you must be off some antidepressants for a period of 7 days or so before you can be put on another one or the drug combination could be lethal. I don't know if that is the case with Wellbutrin but I know that you have to be off of Seratonin and Paxil for atleast 7 days before starting anything else. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/335/??? On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:36:50 -0700 " Barbara Jean " writes: > My opinion on this matter is that severe depression is very, very > dangerous. > It can be life threatening. I don't know what specific advice to > give, but > IMHO, any doctor who really understood about depression would in no > way take > someone off of it cold turkey, with no replacement, for any reason. > Some > doctors don't have a clue how serious depression can be. It slows > down the > healing process at best, and it can kill you at worst. As I'm > sitting here > thinking about it, I'm so mad at that doctor I could spit. It is > irresponsible to take someone off depression meds cold turkey. Even > though > she is having trouble taking the Wellbutrin, instead of just nixing > it, he > needs to find a way for her to take it, or find another > antidepressent. > There is no reason that Wellbutrin cannot be crushed, as long as it > is not > the time-released kind. I think it is imperative to treat the > depression > aggresively at this point, and soon. This whole situation scares me > silly. > Please do something soon. As you may have guessed, I speak from > experience. > > Barbara Jean > > > PLEASE help Ceep?? > > > > Dear brave souls: > > There is a person who has been in touch with me this evening by > email; > PLease > > those of you who have any similar issues, write to me onlist or > privatly > with > > your advice and opinion? Here is the situ. The person is about 4 > weeks > post > > op, and WAS taking a cocktail pre-op of 300mg Effexor,400 mg > Wellbutrin,and > > 60mg of Dexedrine. Her shrink nixed the Wellbutrin because she has > not > been able > > to eat, is having throwing up probs (ds), and can't " grind the > medication. " > > The Dexedrine was nixed because she cannot eat and doc is concerned > " re: > more > > gastric distress for her. " However, she has been pitched into a > near > > full-blown depression and is suffering deeply. She is aware that > this situ > is > > relatively uncharted territory for gbers. > > > > What do you think? I think we have to think in terms of risk vs > benefit, > and > > she knows to run everything by her doc. I wouldn't normally ask, > but I am > > concerned very much to hear any one else's experience or hunches. > > > > Thank you, you guys are great. > > love, > > ceep > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Well, yeah, I guess you're right there. I just reread my post. Do ya think maybe I'm just a little emotional about about this stuff? I'm certainly not angry, dammit! : ) Barbara Jean PLEASE help Ceep?? > > > > > > > Dear brave souls: > > > There is a person who has been in touch with me this evening by > > email; > > PLease > > > those of you who have any similar issues, write to me onlist or > > privatly > > with > > > your advice and opinion? Here is the situ. The person is about 4 > > weeks > > post > > > op, and WAS taking a cocktail pre-op of 300mg Effexor,400 mg > > Wellbutrin,and > > > 60mg of Dexedrine. Her shrink nixed the Wellbutrin because she has > > not > > been able > > > to eat, is having throwing up probs (ds), and can't " grind the > > medication. " > > > The Dexedrine was nixed because she cannot eat and doc is concerned > > " re: > > more > > > gastric distress for her. " However, she has been pitched into a > > near > > > full-blown depression and is suffering deeply. She is aware that > > this situ > > is > > > relatively uncharted territory for gbers. > > > > > > What do you think? I think we have to think in terms of risk vs > > benefit, > > and > > > she knows to run everything by her doc. I wouldn't normally ask, > > but I am > > > concerned very much to hear any one else's experience or hunches. > > > > > > Thank you, you guys are great. > > > love, > > > ceep > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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