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Hi...I just want some different opinions on vaccines. I homeschool my kids so I

do not have the school situation to have to deal with. However, I do worry

about whether I am making the right decision in not having any more vaccines at

this point. is 7, and has not had his 5 year boosters in anything. I

am absolutely sure that the MMR is what triggered his problems. He was

absolutely healthy up until that point, and within a couple weeks after MMR

vaccine, started having autistic tendencies, lost speech that he had for a

while, and developed an eye problem (far-sighted and an eye that has had a

tendency to cross over). What are your opinions on this??...Should I wait until

he is older??..What about the DPT and all????....My instincts tell me to avoid

the MMR....One thing I have learned is that I need to listen to these instincts,

which also told me not to have him vaccinated when he was in for a check up

after he had been sick. He was still running a low-grade fever, but the doctor

insisted he needed to have his MMR...wish I had trusted my insticts then.

Anyway, what are your opinions about this?????

Thank much,

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advice on vaccines

Hi...I just want some different opinions on vaccines. I homeschool my kids so I

do not have the school situation to have to deal with. However, I do worry

about whether I am making the right decision in not having any more vaccines at

this point. is 7, and has not had his 5 year boosters in anything. I

am absolutely sure that the MMR is what triggered his problems. He was

absolutely healthy up until that point, and within a couple weeks after MMR

vaccine, started having autistic tendencies, lost speech that he had for a

while, and developed an eye problem (far-sighted and an eye that has had a

tendency to cross over). What are your opinions on this??...Should I wait until

he is older??..What about the DPT and all????....My instincts tell me to avoid

the MMR....One thing I have learned is that I need to listen to these instincts,

which also told me not to have him vaccinated when he was in for a check up

after he had been sick. He was still running a low-grade fever, but the doctor

insisted he needed to have his MMR...wish I had trusted my insticts then.

Anyway, what are your opinions about this?????

Thank much,

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I would have his titers checked. I do not know the percentages, but many

kids do not even need the second round of the MMR.

Jen

At 09:32 AM 7/21/01 -0400, you wrote:

> advice on vaccines

>

>Hi...I just want some different opinions on vaccines. I homeschool my

>kids so I do not have the school situation to have to deal with. However,

>I do worry about whether I am making the right decision in not having any

>more vaccines at this point. is 7, and has not had his 5 year

>boosters in anything. I am absolutely sure that the MMR is what triggered

>his problems. He was absolutely healthy up until that point, and within a

>couple weeks after MMR vaccine, started having autistic tendencies, lost

>speech that he had for a while, and developed an eye problem (far-sighted

>and an eye that has had a tendency to cross over). What are your opinions

>on this??...Should I wait until he is older??..What about the DPT and

>all????....My instincts tell me to avoid the MMR....One thing I have

>learned is that I need to listen to these instincts, which also told me

>not to have him vaccinated when he was in for a check up after he had been

>sick. He was still running a low-grade fever, but the doctor insisted he

>needed to have his MMR...wish I had trusted my insticts then. Anyway,

>what are your opinions about this?????

>

>Thank much,

>

>

>

>

>

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This is such a personal decision to make but IMHO I would have the titers

drawn to see if its even needed. If it is then its a hard decision to

make,if you do decide to-make sure he is not sick and has not been sick

recently-seperate the shot into three if possible and space it out a few

months between. Good luck-I will be facing this decision soon myself and not

looking forwrd to it. Lis AF

advice on vaccines

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> Hi...I just want some different opinions on vaccines. I homeschool my

kids so I do not have the school situation to have to deal with. However, I

do worry about whether I am making the right decision in not having any more

vaccines at this point. is 7, and has not had his 5 year boosters

in anything. I am absolutely sure that the MMR is what triggered his

problems. He was absolutely healthy up until that point, and within a

couple weeks after MMR vaccine, started having autistic tendencies, lost

speech that he had for a while, and developed an eye problem (far-sighted

and an eye that has had a tendency to cross over). What are your opinions

on this??...Should I wait until he is older??..What about the DPT and

all????....My instincts tell me to avoid the MMR....One thing I have learned

is that I need to listen to these instincts, which also told me not to have

him vaccinated when he was in for a check up after he had been sick. He was

still running a low-grade fever, but the doctor insisted he needed to have

his MMR...wish I had trusted my insticts then. Anyway, what are your

opinions about this?????

>

> Thank much,

>

>

>

>

>

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I liked the post a while back about asking your doc to check your child's

titer levels, since most do not need the booster at all. Here it is:

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This will probably only be of interest to you if:

(1) your ASD child has not yet started kindergarten;

(2) you plan to use any kind of traditional school (vs. 100% home

schooling);

(3) you think there could be link between vaccines and autism.

If the above applies to your family, you may already know this, but just

in

case...

it is very likely that your child is fully immunized against MM & R, and

does

NOT need the MMR booster. " MMR booster " is a misnomer -- 95% of kids who

got

the original MMR are immunized for life and do NOT need " boosting " . The

MMR

booster prior to kindergarten is just to capture the 5% of kids for whom

the

original vaccine never took properly.

Your pediatrician can give you a lab req. for the MMR titers. (Most DAN!

docs do this as a matter of course if your child is in the correct age

range). If you're doing other blood draws anyway (nutritional testing,

chelation checks), you can just have a little extra blood drawn to run

the

MMR titers. Chances are very good your child will show immunization. If

so,

your pediatrician can just add a brief letter to the GA state

immunization

form (there is no " box " for this on the form), stating that the child has

demonstrated immunization and additional boosting is not medically

required.

That should be perfectly acceptable for any conventional school.

Any time from age 4 to 6 yrs is acceptable. If you want to do this, try

to

do it as early as possible -- just in case your child is in the 5% of

kids

who were not immunized the first time. That will give you a bit of

extra

time to review your options and if you want to immunize, to spread out

the

single vaccines over time.

(To paraphrase the esteemed Dr. Andy Wakefield, there is no guarantee

that

getting the full-blown disease won't be worse for these children

developmentally than getting a small dose of the live virus, so not

vaccinating isn't an easy decision either!).

We did the above for our son: his titers showed he was fully immunized

and

his school accepted our pediatrician's letter in lieu of the MMR booster.

______________________________________________

I personally intend to do this with my NT children who are not yet

school-aged. It's " too late " for my autistic son, who is almost 9 and

had all the shots. He, however, didn't have a specific reaction to the

MMR, but I believe was in the spectrum right from day one of the first

shot he ever got, which had Thermerisol in it. I intend to make sure my

doc uses shots with no mercury in them for remaining shots I need for my

younger kids. Many already use Thermerisol-free vaccinations.

Alison

Mom to (8) , ASD, Ben, Isaac, and , all NT, ages 7, 4, and 2.

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