Re: Question on vitamins--yeast issues

[Guest guest]

My son takes a few particular supplements - DHA, folate, zinc,

calcium/magnesium, vitamin D3. This way he gets exactly the amounts he

needs, without having to add yet another vitamin in a multi. But a

multi wouldn't hurt as long as you're getting the right amounts of what

is needed. Careful about mega-vtiamins. My son reacted badly to a

mega-multi-vitamin a few years ago, and it took several weeks to figure

out what was the culprit. I bet Nature Made is not legal.

No, not everyone on SCD has yeast issues. It just seems to be a

problem for some that are on the list. My son doesn't have yeast

issues.

Cathy

15 yo son w uc

scd 2007

On Sunday, February 21, 2010, at 03:36 PM, dontlikemeds wrote:

>  

> Hi all

>

> My son started the diet today (doing well so far) and I was wondering

> if a multi-vitamin is necessary. He has been on one (from Nature Made)

> since his diagnosis in Aug. but I don't think it would pass as SCD

> legal. I know there's good chance of malabsorption so it would make

> sense to add that in.

>

> Also, I have seen several posts about people struggling with yeast

> issues. Does that become a problem for everyone on SCD? I'm a little

> concerned about removing one issue for another.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sherry

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not to hijack but why does iron make it illegal? how can you supplement iron

then? thanks

liz

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > My son started the diet today (doing well so far) and I was wondering if a

multi-vitamin is necessary. He has been on one (from Nature Made) since his

diagnosis in Aug. but I don't think it would pass as SCD legal. I know there's

good chance of malabsorption so it would make sense to add that in.

> >

> > Also, I have seen several posts about people struggling with yeast issues.

Does that become a problem for everyone on SCD? I'm a little concerned about

removing one issue for another.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sherry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sherry

A multivitamin is a helpful supplement since so many of us

with digestive disorders deal with malabsorption issues until significant

healing has occurred. Let us know which multivitamin your son is using and we

can check out the ingredients and let you know if it is OK. There are plenty

of choices for a legal multivitamin.

Most people dealing with digestive disorders also have to

deal with a yeast overgrowth. It is part of having dysbiosis, or a gut ecology

that is out of balance, and also part of being on immune-suppressant

medications if they have an IBD. Some people have more severe yeast-related

symptoms so need to take extra measures, but many find that time on SCD will

also get their yeast levels back to normal.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi

all

My son started the diet today (doing well so far) and I was wondering if a

multi-vitamin is necessary. He has been on one (from Nature Made) since his

diagnosis in Aug. but I don't think it would pass as SCD legal. I know there's

good chance of malabsorption so it would make sense to add that in.

Also, I have seen several posts about people struggling with yeast issues. Does

that become a problem for everyone on SCD? I'm a little concerned about

removing one issue for another.

Thanks,

Sherry

[Guest guest]

Liz,Pathogenic bacteria need iron. In fact, the body will actually sequester it (hide/store it) so that the bacteria can't get it. It actually will put you in a state of anemia in order to slow the progress of the bad bacteria. It isn't widely recognized yet, but it has been scientifically proven. Elaine knew this and that is why she said to avoid iron supplement. Also, what no one tells you is that iron and calcium (which a lot of multi-vitamin makers put in the same supplement) bind to each other and you won't get either. Just like you need Vitamin C to absorb Iron, you need to avoid calcium at the time you take iron. If you really need the iron, I think the doctor can give you an injection and that way you get the iron but the bacteria in your gut

miss out. There are a couple of checks that your doctor can do to see if you are sequestering iron. I think it is by seeing if the Ferritin (storage iron) is in the normal to high range and the TIBC (total Iron Binding Capacity) is in the normal to low range. If you were not sequestering, the TIBC would be high trying to get the use of the iron as much as possible -- kind of like working overtime. If it isn't high while in the presence of good Ferritin levels but you are still 'anemic' in the hemaglobin levels, then that would mean you are sequestering.AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 20 monthsLDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 12:49:39 PMSubject: Re: Question on vitamins--yeast issues

Not to hijack but why does iron make it illegal? how can you supplement iron then? thanks

liz

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > My son started the diet today (doing well so far) and I was wondering if a multi-vitamin is necessary. He has been on one (from Nature Made) since his diagnosis in Aug. but I don't think it would pass as SCD legal. I know there's good chance of malabsorption so it would make sense to add that in.

> >

> > Also, I have seen several posts about people struggling with yeast issues. Does that become a problem for everyone on SCD? I'm a little concerned about removing one issue for another.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sherry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here is something Elaine said about it:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/iron_supplements.htm

Misty Kimble

> >

> > I get my multi vitamin at Lucyskitchen.com. It's a Freeda multi. If your

multi has iron in it, it's illegal. There are plenty of other ingredients that

could cause it be illegal but iron is a bigtime culprit.

> >

> > Yeast can be a problem for everyone but SCD on it's own can help. If you

have a yeast problem, you can to go the files section of the group and look at

the file Yeast or Candida information.

> >

> > Misty Kimble

> > CD - no meds

> > SCD - 2 years

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your responses...I did go to the files and read about candida. Now

I'm more confused (it doesn't take much apparently). Is candida the

yeast/bacteria that is actually causing the die off symptoms or is that

something entirely different?

According to the info that Misty left on iron, I did check the vitamins that my

son was on and they do indeed contain iron. I have not given him those since

last Friday. So, other than the ones we can get through Lucy's what others are

legal?

Thanks all,

Sherry

>

> Sherry

>

>

>

> A multivitamin is a helpful supplement since so many of us with digestive

> disorders deal with malabsorption issues until significant healing has

> occurred. Let us know which multivitamin your son is using and we can check

> out the ingredients and let you know if it is OK. There are plenty of

> choices for a legal multivitamin.

>

>

>

> Most people dealing with digestive disorders also have to deal with a yeast

> overgrowth. It is part of having dysbiosis, or a gut ecology that is out of

> balance, and also part of being on immune-suppressant medications if they

> have an IBD. Some people have more severe yeast-related symptoms so need to

> take extra measures, but many find that time on SCD will also get their

> yeast levels back to normal.

>

>

>

> Kim M.

>

> SCD 6 years

>

>

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> Hi all

>

> My son started the diet today (doing well so far) and I was wondering if a

> multi-vitamin is necessary. He has been on one (from Nature Made) since his

> diagnosis in Aug. but I don't think it would pass as SCD legal. I know

> there's good chance of malabsorption so it would make sense to add that in.

>

> Also, I have seen several posts about people struggling with yeast issues.

> Does that become a problem for everyone on SCD? I'm a little concerned about

> removing one issue for another.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

Do you have a Trader Joe's? I bought their multi with no iron, and am happy with

it. It's easy to swallow the pills too.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Thank you for your responses...I did go to the files and read about candida.

Now I'm more confused (it doesn't take much apparently). Is candida the

yeast/bacteria that is actually causing the die off symptoms or is that

something entirely different?

> According to the info that Misty left on iron, I did check the vitamins that

my son was on and they do indeed contain iron. I have not given him those since

last Friday. So, other than the ones we can get through Lucy's what others are

legal?

>

> Thanks all,

>

> Sherry