Re: Pork Roast and Diet Coke

[Guest guest]

Judi,I have read that pork meat can cause problems for UC/Crohns patients. There is no reasoning as to why, just that it is a noted pattern. The other thing is regarding diet Coke. I can't remember if it was Coke or Pepsi (or both) who admitted that their diet drinks weren't calorie free. It was made known many years ago that they willing pay the Truth In Advertising fine each year for lying about the calorie content because the product made so much more money than the fine it just made 'good' business sense. If you remember there was a huge deal about Pepsi Zero, all sorts of ads promoting it, but it didn't sell as well as the 'diet' Pepsi. What question no one asked was why was Pepsi promoting yet another 'diet' drink if they already had one that was 0

calories?I don't think one every two weeks or so is that much, but given it probably contains some sugar or starch, you might consider it suspect--at least until you determine what is bothering him.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 2:55:37 PMSubject: Pork Roast and Diet Coke

My 9 year old son(Crohn's Disease) has been on the diet for two years and has been doing great! He started slipping a bit after halloween and had periods of good and bad after that. He was eating a lot of almond butter brownies so I stopped them and he appeared to be doing better. I've been trying to keep a food log to try to figure out what has been bothering him. As 9 years of age he really is not any help in determining his problems. A few things I've noticed:

Pork Roast- does anyone has problems with unseasoned pork roast purchased at Roche Brothers? I may be seeing a pattern emerging here and unfortunately he loves pork roast so I don't want to take it away unnecessarily. Could there be something in it I am not aware of? Do I need to purchase it somewhere else?

Diet Coke - I have been letting him have a diet coke every two weeks or so. Does anyone have any problems with that?

[Guest guest]

The only thing I wonder is if there are any additives or flavorings used in the

processing of the pork roast?

I would not use diet coke as artificial sweeteners can cause problems and many

of them are illegal. You could make a drink with seltzer water and legal fruit

juice that he might like.

Congratulations on 2 years SCD with a 9 year old!

PJ

>

> My 9 year old son(Crohn's Disease) has been on the diet for two years and has

been doing great! He started slipping a bit after halloween and had periods of

good and bad after that. He was eating a lot of almond butter brownies so I

stopped them and he appeared to be doing better. I've been trying to keep a food

log to try to figure out what has been bothering him. As 9 years of age he

really is not any help in determining his problems. A few things I've noticed:

>

> Pork Roast- does anyone has problems with unseasoned pork roast purchased at

Roche Brothers? I may be seeing a pattern emerging here and unfortunately he

loves pork roast so I don't want to take it away unnecessarily. Could there be

something in it I am not aware of? Do I need to purchase it somewhere else?

>

> Diet Coke - I have been letting him have a diet coke every two weeks or so.

Does anyone have any problems with that?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think I've even had a pork roast since starting this but with ham, I have to be extremely careful or it kills me.  I have cooked boneless pork ribs and shredded them to make bbq.  If you can find a local source--and sometimes Wal-Mart buys local, it's less likely to have a bunch of additives added.  It depends on the chain if they also buy local or better yet, find a store that is from your state.  I haven't checked Whole Foods but I'm  sure they will have better choices.

 

Grape juice and perrier is great.  Sorry, not a lot of information.  Debbie houston cd

 

The only thing I wonder is if there are any additives or flavorings used in the processing of the pork roast?I would not use diet coke as artificial sweeteners can cause problems and many of them are illegal. You could make a drink with seltzer water and legal fruit juice that he might like.

Congratulations on 2 years SCD with a 9 year old!PJ >> My 9 year old son(Crohn's Disease) has been on the diet for two years and has been doing great! He started slipping a bit after halloween and had periods of good and bad after that. He was eating a lot of almond butter brownies so I stopped them and he appeared to be doing better. I've been trying to keep a food log to try to figure out what has been bothering him. As 9 years of age he really is not any help in determining his problems. A few things I've noticed:

> > Pork Roast- does anyone has problems with unseasoned pork roast purchased at Roche Brothers? I may be seeing a pattern emerging here and unfortunately he loves pork roast so I don't want to take it away unnecessarily. Could there be something in it I am not aware of? Do I need to purchase it somewhere else?

> > Diet Coke - I have been letting him have a diet coke every two weeks or so. Does anyone have any problems with that?>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Many meat processors inject all kinds of junk into their meats. Some

put it on the label---something like " up to 10% water and sodium

nitrate... " . They *have* to put that on if they are injecting over a

certain amount of water because it changes the weight of the meat and the

relative percentage of how much meat you are actually buying.

But, they can inject lower percentages mixed with all kinds of junk to

make the meat " tender " and not necessarily tell you.

Also, almost all processors are bathing their meats in some kind of

stuff, often a citric acid (from corn) solution.

Reading labels can help you with the obvious contamination. But the

only way to tell for sure is to try a product.

I've found a pork roast at my usual supermarket that has nothing listed

on the label and which I tolerate well. I can't eat the chicken parts from

the same supermarket---they bother me.

So I have to go to a different supermarket and buy their chicken parts

which I tolerate just fine.

So I'd suggest checking the labels and trying different sources for the

meat.

Hope you find one he can tolerate,

Sue R

[Guest guest]

>

> Elaine said that we could have the occasional diet soda, although most diet

sodas these days are sweetened with aspartame, not saccharin.

And they weren't when Elaine was alive - when they had the same recipes?

It's not like Diet Coke has changed in the last decade or so.

And, for example, when I joined the SCD LI list, Carol F. used to talk about how

she had diet coke once a

week. Which, given her level of extreme fanaticism, gave me the very strong

impression, that it

was legal.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Current ingredients (some which are pretty questionable) are:

The ingredients in Diet Coke (as formulated in the United States), listed in

order of greatest to least amount:[13]

* Carbonated water

* Caramel color

* Aspartame

* Phosphoric acid

* Potassium benzoate (to protect taste)

* Natural flavors

* Citric acid

* Caffeine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_Coke#United_States

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >And they weren't when Elaine was alive - when they had the same recipes?

> >

> >It's not like Diet Coke has changed in the last decade or so.

> >

> >And, for example, when I joined the SCD LI list,

> >Carol F. used to talk about how she had diet coke once a

> >week. Which, given her level of extreme

> >fanaticism, gave me the very strong impression, that it

> >was legal.

>

> I'm not saying that the formulas have or haven't changed.

>

> LOL! I still remember the New Coke Controversy in

> 1985, when they changed from cane sugar to high

> fructose corn syrup. (Both, of course, illegal.)

>

> No arguments about Carol F's view of fanatical

> adherence. Guess I never paid particular

> attention to her drinking sodas, mainly because

> she always spoke about sweetening things with

> saccharin, which I, personally, dislike.

>

> Please understand that I am not saying that a

> single soda once every two weeks might not be

> legal. What I am saying is that some people --

> like me -- might react to aspartame, and might do better without it.

>

> My assumption -- for me, not anyone else -- is

> that my cravings for starches when I have

> aspartame suggests that the aspartame wakes up

> the bad bugs and has them demanding their

> favorite food in MY gut, not necessarily anyone else's.

>

>

>

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

mmmmm, sooooooo tempting! Who wouldn't want to drink this?

Licia

colitis/SCD Feb 2006

no meds since July 2007

>

> Current ingredients (some which are pretty questionable) are:

>

> The ingredients in Diet Coke (as formulated in the United States), listed in

order of greatest to least amount:[13]

>

> * Carbonated water

> * Caramel color

> * Aspartame

> * Phosphoric acid

> * Potassium benzoate (to protect taste)

> * Natural flavors

> * Citric acid

> * Caffeine

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_Coke#United_States

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

>

[Guest guest]

You know, some people cook pork roast with a can of coke to make it tender--which is why I haven't had any in a looong time ;-).

 

mmmmm, sooooooo tempting! Who wouldn't want to drink this?Liciacolitis/SCD Feb 2006no meds since July 2007

>> Current ingredients (some which are pretty questionable) are:> > The ingredients in Diet Coke (as formulated in the United States), listed in order of greatest to least amount:[13]> > * Carbonated water

> * Caramel color> * Aspartame> * Phosphoric acid> * Potassium benzoate (to protect taste)> * Natural flavors> * Citric acid> * Caffeine> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_Coke#United_States

> > Holly> Crohn's> SCD 12/01/08> >

[Guest guest]

I can practically feel it eating out the lining of my stomach and gut,

even just reading about it! Ugh.

> The ingredients in Diet Coke (as formulated in the United

States), > listed in order of greatest to least amount:[13]

>

> * Carbonated water

> * Caramel color

> * Aspartame

> * Phosphoric acid

> * Potassium benzoate (to protect taste)

> * Natural flavors

> * Citric acid

> * Caffeine

[Guest guest]

Guys, it's really impolite to keep making nasty comments about other people's foodchoices, choices which are legal on the diet. Sometimes the purer than thou quotient gets abit much. MaraI can practically feel it eating out the lining of my stomach and gut, even just reading about it! Ugh.> The ingredients in Diet Coke (as formulated in the United States),> listed in order of greatest to least amount:[13]>> * Carbonated water> * Caramel color> * Aspartame> * Phosphoric acid> * Potassium benzoate (to protect taste)> * Natural flavors> * Citric acid> * Caffeine