Re: Recommending surgeons on this forum

[Guest guest]

Well... I don't know about that.. I love doctors and am married to a

very good one and rely on them with my health and wellbeing many

times. However... what makes them any different than other

professionals? The best reward is telling family and friends when

they do a good job but if they and I am in NO means saying my dr has

made any medical mistakes but if they don't treat patients with

respect we're supposed to smile and keep quiet out of respect for

them!!!! I'm sorry I am missing the boat here. I am no dummy I am

not going to state any names and " slander " them or hinder their

practice on the internet. But to say we shouldn't complain or

question the things that are done to us? That's our right. I know

the dr knows more about his or her field than I do but FACE IT PEOPLE

dr's DO make mistaskes occasionally because believe it or not they

are human. You better believe if I make a sexist comment or treat a

child with disrespect NO ONE is going to smile and be courtious to me

and they shouldn't. I'm going to have some angry parents at my door

and probably at my bosses door and immediately the phones are ringing

and the whole community here will know about it. It probably will

make the paper. I would never treat anyone like their mental state

is not important or disregard their suffering as if it is their

fault. Sorry after being through the ringer I am in no means feeling

that my questions, complaints are discourteous, unprofessional, but

just the truth and also a learning tool for screening your own dr and

taking my mistakes in letting things slide by (being too courteous in

my mind) and using them to avoid making your own. This is a support

group and I wouldn't have even searched for this if I felt hunky

dorey and was totally prepared. There are more of the majority that

have great experiences and I have used that to be prepared when I

wasn't informed. But I feel the testimonies, the concerns of

results, the COMPLAINTS are all part of the support process. Sorry

if I offended anyone but after 8 weeks I pretty much have had it!

Jane

> > >

> > > Not the best idea ever offered, posting specifically about

docs,

> with

> > > names.

> > >

> > > Most of us do indeed think our surgeons were quite wonderful.

And

> some

> > > of those have been named. But someone who succumbs to the yen

to

> vent

> > > negative blasts, for whatever reason, about a doc (or anyone

else

> > > named) opens him or herself to legal liabilities. I think.

[Guest guest]

Well put, Cammie, from a wealth of experience. I think it's better to

use one's energies for a more positive use than fighting in the

courts.

>

> Friends, and I feel you ARE my friends...

>

> I'm just trying to keep us all out of litigation.

>

> Hey! we need the $$$ to pay the surgeons who do right by us, no?

>

> Yes. YES!!! Voice your concerns to your docs, therapists, anybody

> else. But don't voice them to a big other world out there. You can

> spend months, years, even decades in very expensive courtrooms

> defending things you posted that health care providers (and their

> attorneys) may find beyond the pale.

>

> That said, I will tell you that I believe I and my spouse have

> actionable cases against at least a couple of foul docs (not

orthos,

> nor oral surgeons), but would not bring suit because it would be a

> source of undying pain for us at a time when we do not need it.

>

> Courtrooms are not places I want to be.

>

> No way am I suggesting that you swallow your troubles. Talk long,

> well, honestly and earnestly with your caregivers. And if you find

> them unresponsive, and can document their mishandling of your case,

> sue the pants off of them, and plan to pay your lawyer lavish fees.

> Most of the judgment, in fact. And I've never had a problem with a

> doc. Ours have all been really wonderful.

>

> But I really believe that such malpractice cases are few and far

> between. I think most docs work that hard because they want to help

> folks. They want the money, too. But they really do want to help.

>

>

> Of course, Jane, you should be vocal with your docs about your

> complaints, and I don't blame you -- as I hope you know -- for the

> ones you've voiced here.

>

> I also think you should be vocal, orally, with friends who might

> find themselves or their children in the care of this person.

( " nuff

> said? I believe in word of mouth, too.)

>

>

> But I think you would be opening yourself to unwelcome and

> unnecessary troubles to post something negative on the internet.

>

> Docs may not have the time to read it, but they do indeed have the

> money to hire folks who used to be known as " clip services " in the

> old days of paper and hot type, to keep track of what's being said

> about them. Sad that it's all come to this, I know.

>

> And oh, CPT Bob -- " How would you feel if a lay person started

> second

> guessing your ability to do your job without having all of the

> facts?

> It is not just about liability but rather about courtesy and

> professionalism. "

>

>

>

> Honey chile. I am a journalist. We've had an awful spate here

lately

> of priests who needed a bunch of second-guessing. -care

> systems which needed likewise. All of us, including moi, need to

> take our lumps with the best of it. Just not do it in an actionable

> circumstance, if we haven't sufficient back-up documentation. And

> that doesn't mean " I said. He said. She said. " Not enough to hit

> print, methinks.

>

> I just lately had a public embarrassment over a story I wrote,

which

> had something I'd checked and double checked with sources before it

> went into print. But my major boss pulled the carpet out from under

> me, with no discussion of the matter.

>

> There are 15 people daily who want to tell me how to do my job.

> (I've been in the biz for 30-some years now.) Even though they

> haven't a clue that if I let my newspaper say that, um, Jack -- of

> the beanstalk fame -- might be a mass killer -- I could be put

under

> the jail by Jack's son-in-law because I reported that he had a

> shovel in his driveway.)

>

> ...

>

>

> Noooooooh. I don't know Jack. Don't think that his victims

> fertilized his big beanstalk. Wish I'd never mentioned Jack!!! We

> are careful, too, and often get bitten by the people we're trying

to

> give decent, honest coverage of their fine acts. OWWW~

>

> C.

>

> And Sonya, whoever suggested this to you was not a veteran libel

> defense attorney:

>

> " If someone sues you for libel, you are innocent until they

> prove you lied. Which means they have to prove they DIDN'T do what

> you said they did. "

>

>

> Mercifully, I have not libelled anyone I know of, and have not been

> so sued. But I wouldn't want to have you on my defense team, if

> that's your understanding and approach!

>

> C,

[Guest guest]

Yes I would not even use my OWN name online better yet a dr's!LOL

just kidding, I agree with the name thing

Jane

ps. I am stupid enough to use my name

> > > > >

> > > > > Not the best idea ever offered, posting specifically about

> > docs,

> > > with

> > > > > names.

> > > > >

> > > > > Most of us do indeed think our surgeons were quite

wonderful.

> > And

> > > some

> > > > > of those have been named. But someone who succumbs to the

yen

> > to

> > > vent

> > > > > negative blasts, for whatever reason, about a doc (or

anyone

> > else

> > > > > named) opens him or herself to legal liabilities. I think.

[Guest guest]

What happens if I second guess myself? sorry I can't help it. I

have become a problem child!

Jane

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Not the best idea ever offered, posting specifically

> about

> > > > docs,

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > names.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Most of us do indeed think our surgeons were quite

> > wonderful.

> > > > And

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > of those have been named. But someone who succumbs to

the

> > yen

> > > > to

> > > > > vent

> > > > > > > negative blasts, for whatever reason, about a doc (or

> > anyone

> > > > else

> > > > > > > named) opens him or herself to legal liabilities. I

> think.

[Guest guest]

Jane,

I second guess myself all the time. Should I post that on the

forum? I am not brave enough to use my real name on the internet.

Too many wackos out there. Maybe I am one of them.

CPT Bob

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Not the best idea ever offered, posting specifically

> > about

> > > > > docs,

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > names.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Most of us do indeed think our surgeons were quite

> > > wonderful.

> > > > > And

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > of those have been named. But someone who succumbs to

> the

> > > yen

> > > > > to

> > > > > > vent

> > > > > > > > negative blasts, for whatever reason, about a doc (or

> > > anyone

> > > > > else

> > > > > > > > named) opens him or herself to legal liabilities. I

> > think.