RE: ... DIFFERENT DOCS DIFFERENT ADVICE

[Guest guest]

Thank you Debbie, I'll keep that in mind.

[Guest guest]

I'm experiencing the same things. Haven't lost anything since mid May but

inches. Last few days I've been more tired than I was last week. I'm 6 weeks

out tomorrow (Friday). Taking all my vitamins and nutrients and trying real

hard to get at 1,000 calories but it sure is hard. Glad to hear I'm not the

only one who has experienced this though.

Laurette

4/23/04

St. Charity, Cleveland, Ohio

309/290/265/???

[Guest guest]

My Surgeon told me that at about 6 weeks out I would experience extreem

tiredness. It's just your body getting used to your new eating habits. Not

a big deal and as for the plateus, did you know that your body actually is

still shrinking even if the pounds aren't coming off. You can lose inches

and not pounds which is probably what's happening. Congratulations on your

weightloss!

Vandever

LAP RNY 4-6-04

305/255/165

Re: ... DIFFERENT DOCS DIFFERENT ADVICE

> Amen !!!! I feel the same way you do. I too was watching the

world

> go by without me. Wanting to do so many things and not able to. I'm

starting

> to get back into life again.

>

> This surgery for me was also the end of the line. My GP and I didn't feel

> there was any other way I'd live to a ripe old age. My problems now are

trying

> to get in the necessary calories and liquid. Never in my life did I ever

> think I would ever say " I'm just not hungry " .....lol. I have to pretty

much force

> down what I eat and struggling to get in 1000 to 1200 calories. Some days

I

> get closer than others to the 1000. I've already reached this first

plateau

> and I'm a little frustrated. The Dr said I need to eat more to get the

> calories in. So now it seems I'm eating all day....lol.

>

> I'm at the end of my 6th week out of surgery and I'm finding myself real

> tired and belly is sore. Not sure if I'm trying to do to much or what.

Has

> anyone else experienced this? I really haven't lifted or pushed anything

heavy so

> I'm hoping I haven't done anything wrong and it's just part of the healing

> process.

>

> Well enough rambling for now. Hope everyone has a good day and God

Bless!!!

>

> Laurette

> 4/23/04

> 309/290/265/???

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kim,

A couple of things which I hope you will find helpful:

> (Response to the Charlie horse thing) My doctor says I'm not allowed to

> eat bananas yet. He did, however, tell me to include Gatorade in my

> diet now for the potassium.

There is also pedialite in the baby food aisle. It has the

electrolites you need if you're not getting enough potassium and salts

that Gatorade provides with none of those calories. Add your own

Crystal lite flavoring and you're all set. As always check with your

doctor's office for their opinion of Pedialite.

>

> You know what's really strange? I sit here day after day, reading these

> emails, and all these doctors are saying totally different things as to

> what we can and cannot have. For example, I'm not allowed to have ANY

> carbonated drinks what so ever, he said that it was a huge " no, no " .

> But I see that a lot of other patients are doing it.

Just because you see lots of other patients doing it doesn't make it

right. They just don't know what they are doing. The reason you are

told not to drink any carbonated beverage is because the bubbles will

cause your pouch to stretch before the normal time it takes to do so.

You paid dearly for your surgery, why would anyone want to throw all

that investment down the drain? Ignorance has to be the only answer.

If you want to lose weight during the maximum opportunity to do so

you must keep your pouch from stretching sooner than it will do as it

adapts to the new size.

When you drink carbonated beverages, the concern is that the gas from

the carbonation will stretch out your pouch. I have read in Dr. Terry

Simpson's book that you should not drink carbonated beverages for six

weeks or longer after your surgery unless instructed by your doctor.

>I was also told

> " no sugar and very low fat content " not to mention, low carbohydrates

> too. I'm following my doctor's orders right down to the last period.

> Let me tell you, I never knew I had so much will power. I failed at

> every diet I was ever on, but I'm not going to go through major surgery

> and fail this one, I owe it to myself to see this through. Thing that

> nobody mentioned about this surgery is that you still get hungry and you

> still want certain foods that you can't have.

>

> For those people out there who think that this is " the easy way out " ,

> they have absolutely no idea!

It sounds like you haven't read " Pouch Rules for Dummies " which is

right at your fingertips here if you go to the left hand column next

to this message and you will find " Files " there. Click on it (Files)

and you will find a " word doc " there on Pouch Rules which will answer

many of your questions. It is 13th from the top in the Files list.

It teaches you what to expect at various stages after surgery. It

teaches you how to make your pouch work so you don't feel such hunger

as you described. I'm afraid the RNY doctors could do lots more to

give us our " rules for the road instruction manual " after surgery but

that's what these support groups are so good for. Now, do yourself a

favor and print out the pouch rules and study up.

I can tell from your post that you really want this to work for you.

I have been preparing for my surgery this summer and I'm really

impressed by the regimen outlined in Pouch Rules. I am going to

incorporate it into my own surgeon's recommendations.

When did you have your surgery?

Cathy