Re: 24hr yogurt fermentation changes lactose to galactose, is this ok?

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Does anyone here know if the lactose is in fact changed to galactose and if so doesn't galactose feed the baddies in the same way as lactose does? Yes, it's changed to galactose. And it still feeds the baddies just because it's a sugar, but it has less of a chance of doing so because you're more likely to digest it before the baddies get to it than if it were lactose.If so maybe I am wasting my time. Perhaps I should use lacotse free milk instead.Lactose free milk probably has even more galactose than the yogurt. To make it lactose free, they just add an enzyme that breaks down all the lactose, instead of adding bacteria like we do for yogurt. Either way it gets turned into galactose.You could always drip your yogurt to remove most of the galactose. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)

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> lactose is in fact changed to galactose

> > galactose feed the baddies in the same way as

> > lactose

>

>. And it still feeds the baddies just

> because it's a sugar, but it has less of a chance of doing so because

> you're more likely to digest it before the baddies get to it than if

> it were lactose.

>

>

> You could always drip your yogurt to remove most of the galactose.

So if I understand correctly, the whey carries most of the glactose, the sugar

from the dripped yogurt. I seem to be able to handle the dripped yogurt, but

not the whey. (I've tried to add it back in, but get gas when I do) Could this

be a strong indication that i'm dealing with an overgrowth of Candida?

Can someone tell me how to get tested for Candida? (I don't have a Dr., or

insurance, so I'm on my own here..)

harmony

>

> Peace =)

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

>

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At 08:05 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote:

I assume that by dripping

yogurt, that means you throw away the liquid and save the solid

part. Is this correct? Also, the solid part is the

whey. Is that correct? I thought the whey had the most of the

beneficial bacteria between solid and liquid/whey. So, wouldn't you

be removing more of the beneficial bacteria and keeping the less

beneficial part of the yogurt? Am I mistaken?

You throw away the liquid. You save the solid. The solid is almost pure

protein, plus beneficial bacteria.

What some people call " whey " is properly called " water of

hydrolysis. " It's what forms when the lactose in the milk is split

into glucose and galactose. It may have some good bacteria in it, but you

won't be significantly reducing your bacterial count by tossing

it.

Galactose must be metabolized by the liver, and too much galactose can be

hard on the liver. That's why lactose-hydrolyzed milk (aka lactose-free

milk) is not permitted on the diet. Drink several glasses of that,

and you'll hyper-load your poor liver.

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Steve

Elaine says to have no more than 3 cups a day of yogurt. The reason she says this is because of galactose.

But you can have less galactose if you drain the yoghurt. I would not worry about it. I would be worried if you went on lactose free milk. This is what Elaine says on both subjects

Elaine writes:The rate of flow of galactose to the liver when one drinks lactose hydrolyzed milk is high.

The rate of flow of galactose to the liver when one eats yogurt is not as high.

Besides, with lactose hydrolyzed milk, you are ingesting the two sugars: glucose and galactose at the same time.

With yogurt, you are ingesting lactic acid and galactose which makes a difference in the way liver cells handle the galactose.

note: Lactaid Milk is Lactose Hydrolized Milk

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To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, 18 February, 2010 11:00:08 AMSubject: 24hr yogurt fermentation changes lactose to galactose, is this ok?

I read the following on a website desgnated to cure Candida and they made the statement shown below. This has got me thinking and worried. Does anyone here know if the lactose is in fact changed to galactose and if so doesn't galactose feed the baddies in the same way as lactose does? If so maybe I am wasting my time. Perhaps I should use lacotse free milk instead.

"Candida's main food supply is sugar and all forms of it, including lactose in dairy products (except butter), honey, maple syrup, molasses, glucose, fructose, lactose, and sugar substitutes, i.e. NutraSweet, aspartame, saccharin, etc. – see list below. Eliminating sugar is the most important part of the Candida Program. Note: Even yogurt and kefir are not okay for candida sufferers even if they are fermented long enough to lower the lactose content, since lactose is changed into another sugar, called galactose, during the fermentation process."

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Laurie,"Also, the solid part is the whey. Is that correct? " You have that backwards. The solid part is the 'curds' as the Indians refer to it. The liquid part is referred to sometimes as the whey. So, no, you are keeping most of the beneficial bacteria. BTW, the 'whey' has some really good uses. It can be used in making fermented foods. There is a lot of info regarding fermented foods in the cookbook "Nourishing Traditions."AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 20 monthsLDN 3 mg To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 2:05:02 AMSubject: Re: 24hr yogurt fermentation changes lactose to galactose, is this ok?

I assume that by dripping yogurt, that means you throw away the liquid and save the solid part. Is this correct? Also, the solid part is the whey. Is that correct? I thought the whey had the most of the beneficial bacteria between solid and liquid/whey. So, wouldn't you be removing more of the beneficial bacteria and keeping the less beneficial part of the yogurt? Am I mistaken?

Thanks.

From: Alyssa Luck <luckycharms@ nc.rr.com>To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.comSent: Wed, February 17, 2010 8:55:27 PMSubject: Re: 24hr yogurt fermentation changes lactose to galactose, is this ok?

Does anyone here know if the lactose is in fact changed to galactose and if so doesn't galactose feed the baddies in the same way as lactose does?

Yes, it's changed to galactose. And it still feeds the baddies just because it's a sugar, but it has less of a chance of doing so because you're more likely to digest it before the baddies get to it than if it were lactose.

If so maybe I am wasting my time. Perhaps I should use lacotse free milk instead.

Lactose free milk probably has even more galactose than the yogurt. To make it lactose free, they just add an enzyme that breaks down all the lactose, instead of adding bacteria like we do for yogurt. Either way it gets turned into galactose.

You could always drip your yogurt to remove most of the galactose.

Peace =)

Alyssa 15 yo

UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)